Resident Evil 7 biohazard
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Aug 2016 22:01    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Capcom explains how they used Photogrammetry for this game: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215215314&postcount=1

The following might or might not be from the game as they mostly talked about the R&D tests they did.. so it could had been just a test.. or maybe not..



Capcom bought over 100 different types of cameras and a little over half of RE7's assets were created through photogrammetry.

While its a cool feature, i see that as a massive fail investment.

Who the fuck besides some photograph nerds will look for long enough at the characters to appreciate the quality?

Either you will be hiding from enemies and not seeing them, or you shoot in their ugly faces and just jump over them.

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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Aug 2016 22:45    Post subject:
And that's why you are not a game developer.


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2016 00:08    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
consolitis wrote:
Capcom explains how they used Photogrammetry for this game: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215215314&postcount=1

The following might or might not be from the game as they mostly talked about the R&D tests they did.. so it could had been just a test.. or maybe not..



Capcom bought over 100 different types of cameras and a little over half of RE7's assets were created through photogrammetry.

While its a cool feature, i see that as a massive fail investment.

Who the fuck besides some photograph nerds will look for long enough at the characters to appreciate the quality?

Either you will be hiding from enemies and not seeing them, or you shoot in their ugly faces and just jump over them.

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Yeah right why do they even bother? also someone allrdy made the perfect RE7 they just need to copy that:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/399130/
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Aug 2016 03:27    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
No PC demo... fucking crapcom! Mad

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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Aug 2016 10:17    Post subject:
More: http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/08/28/resident-evil-vii-capcom-shows-how-the-games-creepy-graphics-are-made-with-a-ton-of-images/





And for Bob:



Growth in quality / days of work. Working with photogrammetry in 5 days they get the same quality they would get in 30 days of work with a traditional workflow.

Which leads to a great cost reduction compared to RE6:



Texture budget is like 1/4th of what they spent on that game.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Aug 2016 10:20    Post subject:
Hipsters! Razz
(Or just modern day teenagers in general, facial hygiene and all. )

EDIT: Hell give them a modern cell phone and they look about the same as the people shuffling about outside hunting "Poke-mons." Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Aug 2016 19:08    Post subject:
@consolitis
I guess the technology is good if you intend on using it in the future too, and not just for a one-time-job.

Do you or anybody else know how much the equipment did cost?
I'm interested to see where the ROI is.
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2016 19:10    Post subject:
Some preorder items or something: http://www.discshop.se/spel/playstation_4/resident_evil_vii_biohazard_forbokningserbjudande/P142627



"Burner set". I wonder if you burn the enemies a la the Crimsons Heads in REmake?

And again what's with the coin..


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2016 19:22    Post subject:
so photogrammetry is basically the fancier version of what games like mortal kombat already did in early 90s Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2016 19:28    Post subject:


Well to input the assets in the computer, probably. But once you get them inside you can manipulate them like any other asset, unlike the digitized video of MK which is "what you shot is what you get".


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Sep 2016 11:54    Post subject:
We will learn more about the game during TGS in 4 days.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1277841

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September 17th:
(This is in Japanese time)
12:25 to 13:10 – Resident Evil Special Stage Part 1: Resident Evil 7: biohazard Stage – Featuring Masachika Kawata (producer) and Tsuyoshi Kanada (producer). The latest information on the numbered Resident Evil game.
13:10 to 13:15 – Talk
13:20 to 13:50 – Resident Evil Special Stage Part 2: Resident Evil 20th Anniversary and Movie Contents Stage – Featuring Hiroyuki Kobayashi (producer) and Masachika Kawata (producer). A producer talk stage full of Resident Evil-related information. The laetst information on the live-action Resident Evil: The Final Chapter and the CG Resident Evil: Vendetta, too!
13:50 to 14:00 – Resident Evil Booth Talk


and the next day:

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September 18th:
(This is in Japanese time)
11:10 to 11:40 – Resident Evil 7: biohazard Game Introduction – An introduction to Resident Evil 7: biohazard, due out on January 26, 2017. All for the sake of “fear.”


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Sep 2016 15:45    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
so photogrammetry is basically the fancier version of what games like mortal kombat already did in early 90s Laughing


I think it's more similar to what they used in "The Vanishing of Ethan Carter"
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Sep 2016 16:42    Post subject:
Well.. it is that, but it includes more than just environmental objects this time. edit Hm, turns out Carter had used it even for characters: http://www.theastronauts.com/2014/03/visual-revolution-vanishing-ethan-carter/ so it is that, full stop. Very Happy


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2016 05:56    Post subject:
PC version of the demo was great, right?
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2016 14:37    Post subject:
Demo #2 coming closer(?). http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216850830&postcount=1



TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2016 14:42    Post subject:
Civ01 wrote:
PC version of the demo was great, right?
Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2016 15:58    Post subject:
Total sausage party above there in that image. Razz


(Never eaten that particular kind myself.)
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2016 18:11    Post subject:
It's good.


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2016 21:36    Post subject:

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/resident-evil-7-has-no-microtransactions-new-image/1100-6443578/




It is sad, that "no microtransactions" in todays gaming times is a feature worth noting.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2016 22:02    Post subject:
It's worth noting because retards will try to cause controversies out of nowhere.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1276716

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So, uh, microtransactions.

Great.

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I am afraid that this is a big sign of micro transaction After, SFV it's safe to assume that this will be the norm from capcom.


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Why the fuck are microtransactions in a 60 dollar game.

This shit needs to fucking stop.


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So... microtransactions? Because there's no other explanation why would you provide such ordinary items like herbs or ammo as a pre-order DLC.


Yeah, RE7 would be only the 49837583975894th game that would do that, so it couldn't possibly be it. It must be microtransactions.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Sep 2016 22:33    Post subject:
NeoGAF...


"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.

Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2016 07:00    Post subject:



Some combat is shown.
Doesn't look too good.

The cutscene at the end was good though.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2016 07:20    Post subject:
it looks like outlasts... Where are zombies and umnrella


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2016 08:37    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFlEGZCdUZQ


Some combat is shown.
Doesn't look too good.


The cutscene at the end was good though.


Laughing All heavily edited 2 seconds of it.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2016 08:52    Post subject:
Demo #1 has been updated to #2 now on PSN.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/capkel/blog/2016/09/14/a-new-resident-evil-7-biohazard-trailer-is-out-now-with-a-demo-update-on-the-way


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2016 10:30    Post subject:
That dinner scene looked inspired by the same thing from Texas Chainsaw Massacre, even had a supposedly dead grandfather.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2016 10:38    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
That was combat? Laughing

Remember when we just played third person survival horror games, and when every RE that came out after RE4 didn't feel like a fucking lucky dip for what would be a financial success?

How many people here actually played the demo on PS4? The fuck is there even to get excited about at this point? It's like we're seeing the game in drips and drabs, and 90% of it looks like a damn movie you sometimes get to interact with.

Take the visuals away and you're not left with much. Way too many people accept too many compromises these days with games. That's why after ~5 shitty #nextgen directionless RE games and spinoffs, all vying for some sort of cash-cow status, the main series has whittled down to this.


Yeah i remember the crappy third person combat from RE 5-6 with an extremely narrow fov and huge models blocking the view, QTE galore and so on honestly it can only get better from here on out and horror in fps is always better in my book.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2016 11:03    Post subject:
https://www.reddit.com/r/residentevil/comments/52to6s/resident_evil_7_details_from_famitsu/

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So, a big ole' Famitsu article was posted. It features new screens and everything, but can't post here. I have a friend who speaks Japanese fluently who helped loosely translate what the Famitsu article says. All credit to her, punnypunypony as she goes by online.

Now without further ado, the loosely translated details:

-The people at the dinner table include Jack and Marguerite Baker, Andre from the demo, but more so it reveals the name of the son in the dinner shot is in fact Lucas Baker, and the elderly woman is Camile Baker. The image mentions that this piece of art is made for Tokyo Game Show, and is not representative of the final game. Some of the characters won't be in the final game. (I'm guessing they mean Andre). However, they do mention Camile & Lucas will play roles in the game, and that Lucas is a major character.

-Mia is someone that Ethan is 'close with'.

-Video tapes and other methods are used to 'alter events' during the course of the game.

-There are no hordes of enemies in Resident Evil 7, the enemies are more personalized and stalkerish, but can be combated and defeated.

-The Lantern gameplay shown off recently is a taste of one of the aspects of RE7. You'll face the enemies in tougher scenarios in the memory sequences, and there will be a number of them through the game. The Lantern demo is only a taste of what's to come.

-It mentions there's returning Resident Evil characters (notably plural), can you guess who they are?

-The player awakens at one point in the game in a derelict house, where they meet Camile. It also mentions players will meet other survivors from a unsaid danger in the same situation as you. (note: It was originally translated as the game starts off in a zombie outbreak, but that's not correct, and this is not the opening but a scene later in the game).

-A weapon you obtain early in is a knife, you start off the whole first few hours of the game barely able to defend yourself but it is possible to take down your foes. (note: I originally said it was the first weapon, but it's not actually stated as such, you apparently get a weapon before this knife)

-There are items you can interact with in the environment. Some enemies cannot be killed with weapons, and you'll need to defend yourself with your wit and surroundings. Enemies can be killed by playing it smart with the environment.

-The interview in Famitsu is with the game's director and producer. They talk about themselves, their experience at Gamescom, and the reaction people have had to RE7, they like the feedback they've been getting, and talk a bit about weaponry in RE7 (we'll get to that). They talk about choosing what sort of footage to show, and they showed the Lantern gameplay as it rose questions, was low on action, focus on atmosphere, and didn't show too much. Talk about polishing VR and their three different modes for VR leading to the final release to make their January date.

-Asked if the game is still releasing in January since what's been shown so far is vague, and they laugh and say yes, they're actually almost done with the game they're just keeping a lot from public eyes right now. They say they don't want to spoil things, but please look forward to Tokyo Game Show this year.

-They show a picture of herbs and the finger, and tease what the coin is for (no answers), and that the finger may be expanded soon...

-They talk about the bayou, and mention about a ghost hunt that people are doing for a mysterious girl who is said to have been seen in the swamps.

(full fixes made and worked with a second translator, this should be correct.)


I've seen a mention that

 Spoiler:
 


appearance has been leaked/spoiled online but I can't find where this is coming from to assess if it is legit.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Sep 2016 11:07    Post subject:
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-It mentions there's returning Resident Evil characters (notably plural), can you guess who they are?


I bet Wesker is one of them. I get the feeling the house they've been showing isn't the only location, you probably discover an Umbrella facility at some point.
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