Decent Kodi box?
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2016 22:26    Post subject: Decent Kodi box?
Anyone know a decent box for installing Kodi, with remote?
So much wrong/fluffed up crap about them online I cant find a decent honest performance review/info on them.

I picked up a CS918 and it works.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0179AS9SS/
But it so slow and jerky running Kodi Master build its a frustration to do. It runs Prodigy build 'ok' but still a bit laggish for my taste.

Also have a firestick, but anything bulkier than fireflix build on it make you want to throw the remote at the screen.

I could just build a mini-pc for it but not after that much effort and cost. Trying to stick around $100 US


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couleur
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2016 22:40    Post subject:
I've been searching around for a similar thing lately, but I want it to also support Netflix and install some distro for emulation.

I've come to the conclusion that I really want an Intel NUC, but I didnt get around buying one yet.

Anayway, here is a thread that seems to have alot of good choices for you. Especially those wetek boxes seem adapted to your needs.

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=252916


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2016 22:49    Post subject:
just get one 100 bucks chinese box with intel atom inside and put windows on it (with kodi). so you can use kodi and all media stuff with native windows 10 apps or through workarounds directly in kodi maybe

something like this:
aliexpress.com/item/Z83-TV-Box-Intel-Atom-X5-Z8300-Quad-core-4K-1000M-Ethernet-64-Bit-2-4G/32646005197.html
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2016 23:04    Post subject:
Try the cheap Amazon Firesticks. With the launcher app Firestarter you can install Kodi too.

I had it installed on mine myself. But it didn't find my Plexserver (which it should).
So i said fuck it and gave the stick to my dad so he can watch Amazon Video. Laughing
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2016 23:18    Post subject:
couleur wrote:

Anayway, here is a thread that seems to have alot of good choices for you. Especially those wetek boxes seem adapted to your needs.

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=252916

The wetek box looks good. Lot better than the one I have, and actual INFO about it vs crap reviews and over hyped chinese marketing Smile
Janz wrote:
just get one 100 bucks chinese box with intel atom inside and put windows on it (with kodi). so you can use kodi and all media stuff with native windows 10 apps or through workarounds directly in kodi maybe

Dont need windows or any apps. Its literally just a box for wife and kids to watch Movies/TV shows on so I can stop downloading them manually when they think of one they want to see. I got the other to boot right into kodi for them.
Why I need one with a good remote, I need to make it idiot proof for wife.
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Try the cheap Amazon Firesticks. With the launcher app Firestarter you can install Kodi too.
I had it installed on mine myself. But it didn't find my Plexserver (which it should).
So i said fuck it and gave the stick to my dad so he can watch Amazon Video. Laughing

I have one actually,mentioned it in the post. But it sucks big time on the bigger builds for lagging all over the place.
This is the build they and me seem to like best. But the firestick chokes on it. (shit video but only one I could find quickly).


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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2016 23:25    Post subject:
problem with kodi is -> dunno which stuff works. stuff like sky go for example -> no way cause silverlight. doesnt work on a linuxkodi distribution (and 100% not on any arm based box like the pi) on a x64 system as well. amazon video doesnt work anymore as well von arm based kodi stuff afaik

if using windows on that thing you atleast could use every videoportal through a webbrowser just fine (if kodi plugins arent supported). you can easily setup kodi to start with windows so that it doesnt look strange for the kids/wifey

and a remote shouldnt be a problem -> even 10 year old lcd tvs support hdmi cec which is supported by kodi -> you use the normal tv remote to navigate through the menu

advantages of a windows based box -> you are way more flexible than any arm stuff or the small firetv sticks etc
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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2016 23:35    Post subject:
You can install Kodi on Raspberry right? And my TV remote works fine for my RPI like Janz said, supports HDMI CEC well.
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2016 23:40    Post subject:
True, I just need a remote that does that. And our cable box and blurray doesn't I dont believe. We still live in the age of 4 remotes: TV, cable box, bluray player, home theater.

And things like Sky go might be good to keep in mind for expansion down the road. I'm looking at it from the demand of features we have now (we still have cable for TV).
Right now its literally just a box for:
Goto movies/tv shows, search, find a stream source in the list and hit play. That's it.
Like me, I watch only 3 TV channels: science channel, cartoon network, and comedy central. And for movies its a rare day that I actually want to see one. I myself MIGHT watch 5 hours of TV a week, and maybe 1 movie a year if Im feeling frisky...lol

So im just using it for a replacement of "dad can you find X movie/tv series online and set it up for us to see it on the TV?"
But more options down the road isnt a bad idea Smile


-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2016 23:59    Post subject:
Its not a matter if I can install it on something Stige, it a matter of finding a box that wont choke on huge kodi builds.
My firestick and cs918 run 'base' kodi fine. When you goto the big builds they shudder and lag like a 486 trying to run crysis.

So im stuck needing a beefy box, that can run the big 'fancy looking' UI builds they like..but also idiot proof enough with air remote that 'push button something awesome happens' is the extent of what they have to do.


-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2016 00:09    Post subject:
Hmm I might just take my old i7/ 5730 HD laptop and buy one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Ortek-Windows-Infrared-Receiver-Ultimate/dp/B00224ZDFY


-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2016 00:09    Post subject:
as i said -> those little china boxes are great for that. especially if you want to spend max 100 bucks. you will find them in local stores too, but here in germany atleast they are about 180-200 euros with the same specs like that china thingy

and if the tv supports hdmi-cec -> no remote problem at all with kodi
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2016 00:17    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
as i said -> those little china boxes are great for that. especially if you want to spend max 100 bucks. you will find them in local stores too, but here in germany atleast they are about 180-200 euros with the same specs like that china thingy

and if the tv supports hdmi-cec -> no remote problem at all with kodi

I might as well pick one up or the one couleur recommended and give it a try, thanks guys!.
If nothing else Ill use it to replace the huge outdated DELL server I have in my room that does nothing but stream music quietly 24/7 in my office.

Only problem with the hmdi-cec thing is we dont use the TV remote, for anything.
The cablebox remote we use 99% of the time, and the harman-kardon one now and then to switch it from hmdi-1 to hdmi2. And I dont THINK it does it either.
its a 2008 model:
http://www.cnet.com/au/products/harman-kardon-avr-247/
And it still rocks for sound and such and paid $500 for it new. So not wanting to replace it anytime soon.


-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2016 00:28    Post subject:
if the avr is atleast hdmi 1.2a it should support hdmi-cec, so if you plug a little box into that to grab the audio and pass trough the video to the tv you should be able to control it with that remote just fine
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2016 04:29    Post subject:
I have been using on C2 and it runs flawlessly don't try to buy any cheap android device
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Stainy




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2016 15:32    Post subject:
Been Using a Minix X7 for over a year. Running Kodi on a pi2 on the upstairs tv and I am running Kodi on mk802IV.

Upgrading my Minix to a Tronsmart T95 telos. Using a Lynec C120 as a controller.

Tronsmart.. it`s moddable with roms etc..
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Saner




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2016 16:15    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
problem with kodi is -> dunno which stuff works. stuff like sky go for example -> no way cause silverlight. doesnt work on a linuxkodi distribution (and 100% not on any arm based box like the pi) on a x64 system as well. amazon video doesnt work anymore as well von arm based kodi stuff afaik

if using windows on that thing you atleast could use every videoportal through a webbrowser just fine (if kodi plugins arent supported). you can easily setup kodi to start with windows so that it doesnt look strange for the kids/wifey

and a remote shouldnt be a problem -> even 10 year old lcd tvs support hdmi cec which is supported by kodi -> you use the normal tv remote to navigate through the menu

advantages of a windows based box -> you are way more flexible than any arm stuff or the small firetv sticks etc


Sky go, is coming, Amazon prime is working (iirc) the new video player + inputstream allows them to work.

https://github.com/trummerjo/plugin.video.skygo
http://www.kodinerds.net/index.php/Thread/50836-beta-kodi-17-SkyGo-Plugin/

Sky go.de

You need a up to date alpha of krypton and inputstream.smoothstream


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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

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Saner




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2016 16:16    Post subject:
Oh pi3 + flirc and case

https://flirc.tv


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2016 16:39    Post subject:
as long as sky go is using silverlight it isnt coming to any arm powered kodi box like the pi. the only possibility to use silverlight powered videostreams is windows emulation of that stuff on that linux running kodi (or when running kodi on windows -> using external browser to show the stream). and that emulation does even work shitty on half decent pcs, arm based boxes cant run any windows emulation stuff at all
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Saner




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2016 19:18    Post subject:
Have you even looked?


I have just told you it's possible on arm powered setups, I even posted links to the plugin and forum thread


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2016 20:05    Post subject:
I ordered one of the wetek boxes.
in the mean time to test I just used my old i7/5730 laptop and bought this:
https://www.amazon.com/Ortek-Windows-Infrared-Receiver-Ultimate/dp/B00224ZDFY/

MUCH snapper.
Just got to figure out why when I close the laptop lid the HDMI video gets weird. It twitches now and then to the side and bottom of the TV screen gets green noise boxes. I open it the lid back up its fine.
So for now just leave it open and fn key-off the laptop screen


-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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couleur
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jul 2016 23:57    Post subject:
Saner wrote:
Oh pi3 + flirc and case

https://flirc.tv


Thanks alot for that flirc thing. This will make my life easier.


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2016 13:24    Post subject:
btw KODI is coming als universal windows app
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couleur
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2016 13:26    Post subject:
Care to explain what that means vs. the usual kodi windows app?


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2016 13:32    Post subject:
nothing, but with it coming as uwp -> it will work on xboners. 14 years back to the roots where it all started as xbmc
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Saner




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2016 16:20    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
btw KODI is coming als universal windows app


Got a link, last I heard nobody was willing to pick up the work


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2016 16:34    Post subject:
nothing official, but a placeholder popped up in the store
https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/store/p/app/9nblggh4t892
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Saner




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Aug 2016 09:49    Post subject:
Oh nice, hope it's happening


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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Saner




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Dec 2017 18:21    Post subject:
It's out on Xbox one


It's come home


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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