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russ80
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 Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2016 21:36 Post subject: Need some help with BSOD |
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So, been testing out the ram for a few hours now... everything seems fine except i had a random BSOD earlier while playing witcher 3.
Now i know.. it might not be related to the ram since ever since i installed win10 i had around 2 or 3 bsods total (in about 6 months i think?).. but still paranoia you know, new hardware etc. Also the part where the ram is ocd and needs 1.65v when the 4790k recommends 1.5v. Etc.
So in my BIOS i left the ram speed on auto (2400) with xmp enabled. I haven't noticed anything weird when the bsod happened. Cpu was fine at 75 degrees while the case heated up (nothing strange there).
Error i got was 0x00000124. From what i searched it seemed to be related to hardware failure. Or issues with voltage (as in should be a bit lower/higher).
Any tips? Tried AIDA64 stability (not the best i guess) to test both the cpu and ram. Left it like that for 10 mins (not a great deal i know, cpu was stable, no throttle and no bsod either).
Not sure what to do, i'll play some more and see if it happens again but if it does, what would you recommend? Or how could i check better if it's ram/cpu interaction related or not?
Thanks.
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russ80
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2016 21:46 Post subject: |
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| freiwald wrote: | the ram should be fine with xmp, everything is set automaticly.
but what do you mean with 1.5v on the cpu? is your vcore set to 1.5v or what??? 
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No i mean , last time i checked 4790k recommends 1.5v ram, not 1.65v.
VCORE is 1.232-1240 from hwmonitor.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2016 21:48 Post subject: |
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i guess you are running windows 10? to get some bsod there it's pretty hard to accomplish. make sure to stress test your sytem like for real. maybe take the oc out, your cpu should be good enough anyway, even without oc. you shouldn't get bsod something is wrong it's either the oc (too much, vcore too high or temps too high) or a real failure like the motherboard or ram is damaged.
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russ80
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2016 21:50 Post subject: |
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russ80
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2016 21:55 Post subject: |
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Well honestly damaged i doubt, just a stability issue which might be fixed by a slight increase in vcore or something, been reading some forums. Either way, the cpu and mobo are still in warranty so no issue with that.
This was mostly a pre-emptive post though, since it might have just been a 1 off thing. But yeah figured i'd get some impressions in the meantime if it does happen again.
Like this thread : http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2214787/4790k-ddr3-2400-errors.html
yep too less vcore/QPI depends
here a list from XS all credits goes to them:
0x101 = increase vcore
0x124 = increase/decrease QPI/VTT first, if not increase/decrease vcore...have to test to see which one it is
on i7 45nm, usually means too little VVT/QPI for the speed of Uncore
on i7 32nm SB, usually means too little vCore
0x0A = unstable RAM/IMC, increase QPI first, if that doesn't work increase vcore
0x1A = Memory management error. It usually means a bad stick of Ram. Test with Memtest or whatever you prefer. Try raising your Ram voltage
0x1E = increase vcore
0x3B = increase vcore
0x3D = increase vcore
0xD1 = QPI/VTT, increase/decrease as necessary, can also be unstable Ram, raise Ram voltage
0x9C = QPI/VTT most likely, but increasing vcore has helped in some instances
0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency or uncore multi unstable, increase RAM voltage or adjust QPI/VTT, or lower uncore if you're higher than 2x
0x109 = Not enough or too Much memory voltage
0x116 = Low IOH (NB) voltage, GPU issue (most common when running multi-GPU/overclocking GPU)
0x7E = Corrupted OS file, possibly from overclocking. Run sfc /scannow and chkdsk /r
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2016 22:00 Post subject: |
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| freiwald wrote: | | i guess you are running windows 10? to get some bsod there it's pretty hard to accomplish. |
Indeed.
Because when i get one once in a while (1-2 per month), the fucking OS just reboots after showing the BSOD for 0.5 sec.
And of course never anything useful can be found in the Event Log.
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@russ80
Do stress tests for your RAM (Memtest86) and maybe even your CPU (Prime95). like Freiwald said.
Also tried loading the default settings for your UEFI?
Might also try looking for new mainboard drivers, as i think XMP RAM can be a bit problematic at times?
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russ80
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russ80
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2016 22:19 Post subject: |
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Nah installed via BIOS / USB stick. All done now. Will check some tests then.
Memtest86 would do it? i mean, if it's cpu vcore related and not the actual ram. Also how long would it take aprox? 
Hm ran prime95 (3rd test that also tests ram heavily).. it got to like 95 degrees (max) then i stopped it after a while, didn't like. Then i read something about 4790k's having issues with prime95 since it overvolts them.
In games it doesn't go over 75 degrees though, so uh.
Edit: Apparently the prime95 issue with haswells is only with the 2nd and 3rd test, 1st (small fft ) should be fine. Hm.
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russ80
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Jul 2016 23:12 Post subject: |
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x124 is lack of voltage. either vrin (also called CPU Input Voltage) or vcore. seeing how your stock CPU vcore is already that high (are you reading this correctly? tried different apps?), i'd guess vrin. set to 1.8v and go in 0.010 increments. my 4670k needs 1.85v vrin and 1.225v vcore for 4.6ghz.
though this is the first time I hear about a stock CPU requiring voltage bumps. i'd start with restore defaults in bios first. at stock clocks, the bios defaults should work fine.
1.65v RAM is not a problem for haswell. at most, when OCing you would need to increase the voltage for the memory controler on some mobos(i never had to for my 2400mhz ram). and prime is useless, all you will do is potentially degrade your chip. gaming, gaming, gaming. if that's what you do with the PC, it's the only reliable test of stability that won't degrade your CPU with extremely unrealistic load and temps.
if neither vring nor vcore bumps bring an end to x124, then it's time to look at the PSU, as it could be having issues delivering the required power at load. check that all cables are properly and fully plugged in as well. could be a loose PSU cable.
It's got nothing to do with the OS, cpu paste, mobo drivers, or anything else of that nature, that's for sure, so no need to waste time on that.
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russ80
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jul 2016 00:45 Post subject: |
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last time i checked 4790k recommends 1.5v ram, not 1.65v.
Recommends? 4.7@1.2 here... I surely wont be putting MY voltages to 1.5 or anywhere near it.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jul 2016 02:54 Post subject: |
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yeah, official intel spec considers only 1333mhz and 1600mhz at 1.5v compatible with their haswell/haswell e chipsets.
everything else is considered an OC officially.
but obviously that's bullcrap, as faster ram exists and works, and is almost always 1.65v as soon as you get into 2000+mhz range for ddr3.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jul 2016 07:17 Post subject: |
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since you mentioned while playing a game maybe try a different video card or different drivers?
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russ80
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jul 2016 16:04 Post subject: |
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| 8ball wrote: | | since you mentioned while playing a game maybe try a different video card or different drivers? |
No point since the gpu is fine, replaced my ram yesterday that's the only thing that changed.
Today, so far so good, had no bsods, so maybe the mobo bios update worked, or just coincidence.
@JB yeah, it might have been the bios, if i do get it again tho i'll just try the voltages and go from there.
Thanks all though
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