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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 16:09    Post subject:
That sux, I just changed my AMD gpu for an Nvidia card. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 16:19    Post subject:
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dethy




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 16:21    Post subject:
Anyone try dx12 yet? looking and benches, there is some substantial fps increases


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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 16:22    Post subject:
That would be nice and ridiculous at the same time. So much for NVidia being the culprit. That is, if it's truly fixed.

dethy wrote:
Anyone try dx12 yet? looking and benches, there is some substantial fps increases


I'd like to try it but I'm not on Win10 yet.


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dethy




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 17:02    Post subject:
Not promising, I'll try dx12 on my 390x when I get home later today. the guru3d.com benches seem to show 10 to 15fps increase across the board on dx12


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thudo




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 17:07    Post subject:
WTF... DX12 is supposed to be head over heels faster than bygone has-been era DX11. Rage Yeah must be Invidia which for no reason has issues with DX12. Are You Serious


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 17:30    Post subject:
Creative Assembly / AMD seems to have banked a lot on async compute which Nvidia isn't too hot with supporting on their current GPU models so going by the forum discussions Nvidia users are seeing very minor to non-existent gains under D3D12 or even a performance decrease.

http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_DirectX_12_System_Requirements

http://steamcommunity.com/app/364360/discussions/0/351660338712708346/


EDIT: And a blood DLC once again.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/404011/ / http://steamcommunity.com/games/364360/announcements/detail/848182961219616446
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Sauronich




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 18:09    Post subject:
DX12 gives me around 5 more FPS during battles (I tested it in the VC introductory battle, the benchmark actually shows worse performance in DX12 for some reason), which is okay I guess since it wasn't supposed to work at all on an R9 280X. Newer architectures will probably see bigger gains.

It also solves one big problem I used to have: on DX11 AF would tank performance on the campaign map so I was forced to use Trilinear which looked ugly as fuck during battles. In DX12 this doesn't happen anymore, which I'm pretty happy about.


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 18:36    Post subject:
The 200 series is supported (In general for D3D12 and AMD I am pretty sure anything GCN is supported meaning the 7000 series up to the 480 though the newer GCN revision models might have some advantages or additional feature support.) though lower-end R7 models have some slight visual glitch with the current D3D12 version of the game. Smile
(For Nvidia Maxwell and Pascal architecture has DX12 support, Fermi was planned to receive a driver update as well but it seems to be dormant and Nvidia saying something on how the Fermi users made up some 10% of the install base so it's dormant for now.)
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eyehategod




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 18:44    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Anyone found a solution to the flickering? Other than to disable vsync, as that doesn't seem like much of a solution as it leads to other issues...


Have you tried to disable MSAA? Quoting the known issues for this patch: "Nvidia GTX 900 series GPUs may experience occasional shadow flickering with Multi-Sample Aliasing enabled".
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 18:53    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
The 200 series is supported

The 280X is not on the list of compatible cards for TWW though, and neither is the 7970. I suppose they might've just been too lazy to list all of the GPUs that support DX12.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 19:05    Post subject:
Hmm going by that list it seems they recommend GCN 1.1 and above only, skipping GCN 1.0 but it should still work with the game although I do not know the reason behind why they've excluded the GCN 1.0 GPU models.

EDIT: Ah right they refer to them as "generations" usually, 1.0 and the "versions" are unofficial though in the end it means the same. Smile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Core_Next
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Jul 2016 01:24    Post subject:
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dethy




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Jul 2016 05:21    Post subject:
WOW, this is great!

For Dx11, benchmark was average 52.6fps

for Dx12, average 71.3fps

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i3770k overclocked to 4.2ghz
16gb G.Skill Sniper ram
Samsung 850 Pro SSD drive for games, Intel 320 SSD for OS + programs
AMD 390X 8GB card
Win10 x64.


With vSync on, I get constant 60fps with no dips.

This is almost 40% increase performance! And this is still beta mode, if they finalize it, it shoudl be even better Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Jul 2016 02:57    Post subject:
Incoming Beastman DLC along with new Empire hero?

https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/752503134711386112


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jul 2016 02:14    Post subject:
dethy wrote:
Incoming Beastman DLC along with new Empire hero?

https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/752503134711386112



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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jul 2016 03:52    Post subject:
Knew it Very Happy

Now, taking bets it will cost $7.99 Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jul 2016 04:49    Post subject:
Propably more because unlike with previous titles, they actually had to put some work into this one. All new models and animations.. unlike the previous copy&paste faction DLCs for the predecessors.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jul 2016 17:20    Post subject:
OMG at the price:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/404012/


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jul 2016 17:34    Post subject:
dethy wrote:
OMG at the price:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/404012/


http://steamcommunity.com/app/364360/discussions/0/359543542240008867/

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Joey CA [developer] 2 minutes ago

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Originally posted by Walkerk19:
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Originally posted by Serbian91:
Is this a joke? Almost 18 euroes for one race?

Because it include mini campaign pack



The amount of art time spent on making the various skeletons are so much more intricate than previous packs for historical DLC due to the nature of the beastmen and the different types of Gors. Have a look at the screen shots on Steam to see what we mean and not forgetting the "Eye for an Eye" mini campaign.



Well that's their reasoning at least...
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jul 2016 17:46    Post subject:


It was obvious the price will be higher. Besides, if you factor in the mini campaign, it's just in line with stuff like "Age of Charlemagne" and "The Last Roman" in terms of pricing.

Also, it's less copy&paste, like I mentioned already. So the price is fine in my book.

This time, I don't feel dirty for buying it contrary to all the other ones in the past.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Jul 2016 18:24    Post subject:
True. I'll still get it. May as well preorder it and save a dollar.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2016 17:44    Post subject:
Gamesplanet have it for 15% off. £11.89 / €14.86 - approx. US$15.74 (via UK site). They also have the base game for 18% off, which seems to be one of the few discounts around.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2016 17:56    Post subject:
That price is still nonsense IMO, as is with most DLC ever released. They can't expect me to believe that, on this, they spent a quarter of the effort they spent on the whole rest of the game.

Not buying it until it's like <10€. They can keep their blood pack too.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2016 21:08    Post subject:
Anyone know if the DLC will add to the main campaign map? I guess the Beastmen would just spawn as a horde, just like Chaos?
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2016 22:17    Post subject:
Divvy wrote:
Not buying it until it's like <10€. They can keep their blood pack too.


Frant wrote:
Shitass games are ruining piracy.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2016 22:31    Post subject:
dannofdawn wrote:
Anyone know if the DLC will add to the main campaign map? I guess the Beastmen would just spawn as a horde, just like Chaos?

They will spawn as a horde, yes. Also, the AI-controlled Beastmen will spawn even if you don't own the DLC, which is nice.
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