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Even more boring than Boringvengers?! 
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| Posted: Tue, 10th May 2016 18:40 Post subject: |
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best ones are guardians of the galaxy and deadpool anyway, winter soldier was ok, havent seen civil war yet.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th May 2016 18:45 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | I haven't seen Avengers: Age of Ultron and Wintersoldier (I tried to watch it like 8 times or so, every time I felt asleep...) Should I force myself through both and then watch Civil War in the cinema? |
The plot - very surprisingly to me - relies, continues and concludes the Winter Soldier arc from Cap2, so you should watch that. Not that you won't be able to follow if you don't, but you would definitely benefit.
From Age of Ultron all you need to know is that Scarlet Witch, Vision, Falcon and War Machine have become Avengers and their AoU adventure caused a bunch of destruction in Sokovia. This is made very clear in the movie itself anyway.
| PumpAction wrote: | | Is it better than those two movies I hadn't seen til now? |
Significantly so.
| consolitis wrote: | Avengers: Age of Ultron - 4.5/10
Being best classified in the ever popular, it would appear, category of expensive CGI nonsense this is a massive step down from the charming, if not elegant, simplicity of the original. |
| consolitis wrote: | Captain America: The Winter Soldier 6/10
Clearly the writers, directors, actors and so on didn't give a shit about anything other than making good action scenes.
Yes, I admit I liked the action a lot. Some scenes were particularly well made.
But..
Bad script, supposed to be "deep" but in reality it's as deep as all the other Marvel movies (in other words: it's not). The dialogue and banter ranges from boring to attrocious. And the twist of who are the bad guys? It's just "there". The movie doesn't build towards it, so there's no thrill to be felt when it is "revealed".
Bad acting by Johansson. No idea why, she was fine in Iron Man 2 and The Avengers. Her look is also meh.
Bad bloomy aesthetic on the CGI effects, similarly to Iron Man 3 IIRC.
Bad, pointless, cameos from the first Cap movie.
Pay no attention to what the Marvel fanboys tell you. This is far from the best of the MCU franchise and even further away from one of the best comic book movies. It's a completely average comic book movie with good action scenes is all it is.
Without action scenes: 5/10 |
| PumpAction wrote: | | Is age of ultron better than ant man? Is age of ultron better than avengers? |
No and no.
| consolitis wrote: | Ant-Man - 6/10
Silly script, bad villain, and unimaginative CGI action (compared to the amazing things you can do with such a concept). Good for one watch and then shit-delete forever.
Young Douglas was amazing (and old Altwell maybe wasn't that bad herself). |
Avengers, I have no review with score written here before, but I'd rate it around 7.
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| Quote: | | Or should I just re-watch first class, Days of future past and then go for apocalypse? |
Civil War is really good so catch it now that you can on the cinema.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Tue, 10th May 2016 19:00 Post subject: |
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Winter Soldier was far superior to Ant Man, but that's more a testament to how bad Ant Man was. 
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| Posted: Wed, 11th May 2016 03:06 Post subject: |
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The Witch 3/10 what the fuck did i just watch?
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| Posted: Wed, 11th May 2016 03:37 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | The Witch 3/10 what the fuck did i just watch? |
Black Philip was the best part
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| Posted: Wed, 11th May 2016 10:56 Post subject: |
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Cap 3: Civil War - 7/10
Good, but not great. It's better than Avengers 2 and probably Avengers 1 also, but worse than some of the better single hero movies. I honestly don't see any groundbreaking improvement - it's mostly more of the same, but done well. There was, however, a couple of things I didn't like.
 Spoiler: | 1) The explanation for why they even needed to fight at all was very thin - thinner than I expected. For people who fought together and saved each other's lives several times they are awfully quick to shoot laser beams and throw trucks at each other. If they tried to solve the whole thing together from the get go, the movie would be 30 minutes long  Instead, for some reason noone even tries to verify Cap's version of the story and they suddenly feel they need UN supervision so badly, they're willing to sacrifice their friends to get it. WTF?
2) The Accords are pretty much inconsequential - theoretically they are what divided them, but the difference of opinion isn't highlighted very well. Hell, at the end of the movie, Stark, who was the biggest supporter, is essentially ignoring the supervision he so vehemently fought for - and even during the movie he wasn't very good at following these rules either. Nor were the others, for that matter: Black Panther just runs around trying to kill Bucky and doesn't give a fuck about anything else, Black Widow (what's with the black animals, seriously? ) lets Cap go and doesn't face any sort of repercussions for that. I'd rather they made the difference of opinion personal instead of political from the get go, because that would be a stronger explanation for the sudden animosity and the moment the story gets personal also happens to be the only moment when the whole thing...
3) ...gets serious. I wish they dialed the oneliners down somewhat for this movie. Sure, the humour is fun to watch, but for a story about a team of friends that's essentially breaking apart it's awfully comical and lighthearted. For the most part they look like they're just having fun with each other. Aside from the aformentioned, very dedicated Black Panther, no one really seems to treat the whole thing seriously, until Rhodes falls down.
4) The movie feels like Civil War - Part 1, to be honest. At the end the team's broken up, and the whole disagreement seems pretty much unresolved, the story unconcluded. |
In the end, the good outweights the bad, however. Action is great, acting solid, Spidey's better than I could've hoped for. It also leaves MCU in a very strange place. It'll be interesting to see where it goes from here.
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| Posted: Wed, 11th May 2016 14:37 Post subject: |
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10 Cloverfield Lane - 6.5/10
It was more or less enjoyable..the "twist" in the end didn't save it though..if anything it made it even worse.A 10 year old could have come up with a better idea than this
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| Posted: Thu, 12th May 2016 02:20 Post subject: |
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Days of Future Past, rewatched it thanks to the people here, it started of as 8 and slowly became a 6.5 so I'll just stop at 7 and say that it was really good up until ~2/3 of the movie. I just rewatched the Apocalypse trailer again and I thought it was a really good trailer... Would be a real shame if that movie is worse than what the final trailer promised 
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| Posted: Thu, 12th May 2016 11:14 Post subject: |
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Well according to the link that consolitis already pasted like 5 times, that is the exact case of what happened
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| Posted: Thu, 12th May 2016 17:31 Post subject: |
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the witch
certainly an interesting film.. for me i think it fell apart at the end. I think they could have amped up the vagueness of it? Leaving it up to the viewer to decide if there actually was a witch, or witches, or if it was a mad old lady and the insanity of religion that was the cause of everything... but i just felt the ending forced the issue a bit, and not in a satisfactory way...
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| Posted: Thu, 12th May 2016 19:46 Post subject: |
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Cloverfield Lane: S01E01 - 6/10
110 minutes of engaging drama with really convincing Goodman and MEW (always a joy for the eyes), and with the remaining ones being part of a sad Hollytrombone plagued by the usual dose of wannabe MacGyver action, improbable cheap scenes, and so on.
I still enjoyed it more than Cloverfield, but I can't help but feel that it's a wasted opportunity. It's structured like the premiere of a TV show, the cliff-ending begged for a *manly voice* "next week on AMC's Cloverfield Line" xD
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| Posted: Thu, 12th May 2016 19:59 Post subject: |
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@ixigia
| Quote: | | I still enjoyed it more than Cloverfield |
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| Posted: Thu, 12th May 2016 21:38 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | the witch
certainly an interesting film.. for me i think it fell apart at the end. I think they could have amped up the vagueness of it? Leaving it up to the viewer to decide if there actually was a witch, or witches, or if it was a mad old lady and the insanity of religion that was the cause of everything... but i just felt the ending forced the issue a bit, and not in a satisfactory way... |
its 100% on purpose, director was just fed up with everything nowadays beeing "ambigous" and 'vague'. He wanted to make it straightforward, in-your-face approach, both with "gory' witch scenes and also with the ending. Imo it works fucking great, when something finally happens it is literally shown to you for your viewing (dis)pleasure, no bullshit, no "maybe it happened, maybe it was just his/her imagination", what a fresh approach, specially in that genre.
Despite that fact, when you read some other people opinion, many seems to construct some weird theories in vain of "it was her imagination" or other stuff. I personally prefer just to view it "as is" without constructing some my own theories, in good cinema or art in general the art speaks for itself, theres no need to create arguments that will defend it.
| Spoiler: | just like with the child scene, the witch literally cuts it to fucking small parts of his baby flesh, uses the fucking mortar to bash that into pulp and cover herself and her flying witch stick with it, according to folk tales, or rather stuff made up by the church, witches used that unbaptized child flesh as ointment for their sticks to making them fly |
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| Posted: Thu, 12th May 2016 21:50 Post subject: |
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| h0rnyfavn wrote: | @ixigia
| Quote: | | I still enjoyed it more than Cloverfield |
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Haha yeah, I know that it's an unpopular opinion, but for me the Clovermovie didn't quite manage to live up to the expectations, and neither the style itself nor the "contents" ended up captivating me.
This one at least had some genuine drama going on, well till it (re)embraced ye ol' green pear-y ghost which ruined the flow :'( |
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 03:50 Post subject: |
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| chiroq wrote: | | chiv wrote: | the witch
certainly an interesting film.. for me i think it fell apart at the end. I think they could have amped up the vagueness of it? Leaving it up to the viewer to decide if there actually was a witch, or witches, or if it was a mad old lady and the insanity of religion that was the cause of everything... but i just felt the ending forced the issue a bit, and not in a satisfactory way... |
its 100% on purpose, director was just fed up with everything nowadays beeing "ambigous" and 'vague'. He wanted to make it straightforward, in-your-face approach, both with "gory' witch scenes and also with the ending. Imo it works fucking great, when something finally happens it is literally shown to you for your viewing (dis)pleasure, no bullshit, no "maybe it happened, maybe it was just his/her imagination", what a fresh approach, specially in that genre.
Despite that fact, when you read some other people opinion, many seems to construct some weird theories in vain of "it was her imagination" or other stuff. I personally prefer just to view it "as is" without constructing some my own theories, in good cinema or art in general the art speaks for itself, theres no need to create arguments that will defend it.
| Spoiler: | just like with the child scene, the witch literally cuts it to fucking small parts of his baby flesh, uses the fucking mortar to bash that into pulp and cover herself and her flying witch stick with it, according to folk tales, or rather stuff made up by the church, witches used that unbaptized child flesh as ointment for their sticks to making them fly |
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well i think of all the times for a film to embrace vagueness, THIS is a film that would have been perfect for it since the whole witch thing was always about hysteria and religion, not about fantasy.
not saying i hated it, the film just didnt feel satisfying in the final act for me. |
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| Posted: Sat, 14th May 2016 00:05 Post subject: |
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Kindergarten Cop 2 - 4/10, the sequel nobody asked for. A few parts were funny but most of the jokes were heavy-handed critiques of stereotypical left wing helicopter parent culture. Dolph Lundgren was miscast, his acting wasn't great and his accent kept slipping. The original movie worked because of Arnold's charisma and screen presence, which Dolph lacks.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th May 2016 03:17 Post subject: |
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against the wild 2 - 6.5/10 great family movie
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| Posted: Sat, 14th May 2016 13:42 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | Captain America: Civil war. - 7.8/10
Certainly one of the best Marvel movies to date. |
Agreed on the movie itself, but I'd give it a -. 5 for choosing Daniel Brühl as the main evil character.
What's up with Hollywood's germanophilia lately?
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| Posted: Sat, 14th May 2016 13:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 14th May 2016 14:36 Post subject: |
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OK. Valid point. But still... What's up with it?
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| Posted: Sun, 15th May 2016 09:12 Post subject: |
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A film starring Dolph Lundgren is awful? What a shocker!
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| Posted: Sun, 15th May 2016 15:30 Post subject: |
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10 Cloverfield Lane - 8/10
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