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| Posted: Thu, 12th May 2016 16:32 Post subject: |
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| fawe4 wrote: | | What are Alien Pets for? |
I got some happiness building that required them.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th May 2016 16:53 Post subject: |
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I swear, every time I don't play a military nation its like I'm cursed. First time I do it, both my research vessels get destroyed by anomalies within 10 min of the game starting, then immediately after a random faction event happens where a rogue faction of my kingdom spawns a fleet almost triple my initial fleet in power and procedes to pretty much destroy every installation I've build in the system and my fleet so I'm pretty much fucked from the start of the game.
Second time I go peaceful I spawn right next to a fallen empire, ok.. nothing to it, I play nice and build an embassy, trying my best to stay friendly ... few hours in to the game as I become a big empire, expanding south ... run in to another fallen empire, a race of space hogs that are really angry at me for expanding so close to them and ask me to destroy like half my colonies or its war ... say no and soon after I find myself getting destroyed by them with their massive fleets. So yeah, sandwiched between 2 fallen empires.. and holy shit are fallen empires bs, like I was pretty much the largest empire at that point and it was late in the game, massive fleet , but they just dwarf you.
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zmed
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| Posted: Thu, 12th May 2016 17:15 Post subject: |
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| djaoni wrote: | | fawe4 wrote: | | What are Alien Pets for? |
I got some happiness building that required them. |
Yep, they are just another strategic resource, like batarian (or however it's spelled) stones. Those let you build some high-performance power plants for each source, and the pets let you build zoos IIRC, that boost happiness.
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zmed
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| Posted: Thu, 12th May 2016 17:18 Post subject: |
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| Kezmark wrote: | I swear, every time I don't play a military nation its like I'm cursed. First time I do it, both my research vessels get destroyed by anomalies within 10 min of the game starting, then immediately after a random faction event happens where a rogue faction of my kingdom spawns a fleet almost triple my initial fleet in power and procedes to pretty much destroy every installation I've build in the system and my fleet so I'm pretty much fucked from the start of the game.
Second time I go peaceful I spawn right next to a fallen empire, ok.. nothing to it, I play nice and build an embassy, trying my best to stay friendly ... few hours in to the game as I become a big empire, expanding south ... run in to another fallen empire, a race of space hogs that are really angry at me for expanding so close to them and ask me to destroy like half my colonies or its war ... say no and soon after I find myself getting destroyed by them with their massive fleets. So yeah, sandwiched between 2 fallen empires.. and holy shit are fallen empires bs, like I was pretty much the largest empire at that point and it was late in the game, massive fleet , but they just dwarf you. |
Yeah, FEs are fun. 
They supposed to be like that tho, they are remnants of the last generation of empires, with tech lightyears above anything you can normally research. You can slowly eat away at them though, since they don't replace ships, and if you can scan their wrecks, they might reveal some pretty kick-ass tech.
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sanchin
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 00:12 Post subject: |
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| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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dethy
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 04:48 Post subject: |
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Patch 1.0.2 live:
| Quote: | This Hotfix contains:
- Fixed exploits in species customization which allowed players ignore limits to trait and ethic points etc.
- Improved performance for war demands view
- 'Hostile fleet detected' is now only shown when the fleet is heading towards one of your colonized systems, preventing massive spam in large wars.
- UI fixes in server browser
- It is now possible to connect directly to a server id
- Fixed CTD when renaming sectors
- Fixed CTD when fleets were traveling too far away from the galaxy center
- Fixed CTD when a country was destroyed as a result of combat
- Fixed CTD caused by ships shooting at ships that are not visible
- Fixed an issue where you could not build space ports with some screen resolutions
- It is no longer possible to build robot pops on uncolonized planets
- Game pads are now turned off by default as this caused stuttering on some configurations. Game pads can be enabled again with the -gamepad launch option or the "gamepad" console command
We are aware of an issue where join game via the steam friends menu won't work if the game is password protected. This is still an issue but you should be able to bypass it with the Direct Join button. The host can see the server ID either in the multiplayer lobby or, if the game has started, in the tooltip for the date in the top right. |
wow, gamepads caused stuttering.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 08:44 Post subject: |
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Guyver
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 12:03 Post subject: |
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is there any way to download mods from the workshop, without owning the game?
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wawrzul
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 13:12 Post subject: |
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Yep, a good guy on RIN provided a launcher and a folder with lots of mods. Haven't tried it myself though.
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mtj
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zmed
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 13:56 Post subject: |
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Yeah, I'm still doing my first campaign, and now that everything is close to being colonised, it's getting a bit monotonous. I should start looking into some aggressive expansion opportunities. 
My recommendation: start on a small map, even the smallest, without maxing out the possible AI empires. Room to expand, but not too overwhelming in the long run.
Also, there are definite signs that the game was rushed out the door too early (possibly to not cannibalize the HOI4 sales). The factions in the empire are woefully underdeveloped, they are mostly only asking for secession, and slaves never rebel, they just have a placeholder faction, that never goes beyond "no effect" even on 100% support (no surprise tho, as they said this is the case in one of the last pre-release streams), same for xenophile pops demanding slave emancipation. They don't demand policy changes, or asking to stop primitive-experimentation, or purists demanding a stop to genetic modifications, or things like that.
Also, the AI is pretty much braindead, but everyone knew that already.
But other than that, the game is still a blast, and despite these (temporary) shortcomings, it's definitey my favorite game of the year so far. I'm still playing the first campaign FFS, and no signs of stopping in the near future. 
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 14:24 Post subject: |
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Yeah, the early/early-mid game is where it shines currently. Will need some more elaborate trading, some espionage, more events and so on before it truly becomes the game it has the potential to be.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 14:37 Post subject: |
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| zmed wrote: | Yeah, I'm still doing my first campaign, and now that everything is close to being colonised, it's getting a bit monotonous. I should start looking into some aggressive expansion opportunities.
My recommendation: start on a small map, even the smallest, without maxing out the possible AI empires. Room to expand, but not too overwhelming in the long run.
Also, there are definite signs that the game was rushed out the door too early (possibly to not cannibalize the HOI4 sales). The factions in the empire are woefully underdeveloped, they are mostly only asking for secession, and slaves never rebel, they just have a placeholder faction, that never goes beyond "no effect" even on 100% support (no surprise tho, as they said this is the case in one of the last pre-release streams), same for xenophile pops demanding slave emancipation. They don't demand policy changes, or asking to stop primitive-experimentation, or purists demanding a stop to genetic modifications, or things like that.
Also, the AI is pretty much braindead, but everyone knew that already.
But other than that, the game is still a blast, and despite these (temporary) shortcomings, it's definitey my favorite game of the year so far. I'm still playing the first campaign FFS, and no signs of stopping in the near future. |
Yeah i'm getting the same vibe. Really fun at the start and mid, but late game it gets a bit boring, since all you have is basically combat. I agree that the game needs trading, espionage and more lategame events.
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zmed
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 16:26 Post subject: |
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- 'Hostile fleet detected' is now only shown when the fleet is heading towards one of your colonized systems, preventing massive spam in large wars.
thank god !
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Guyver
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 20:38 Post subject: |
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| wawrzul wrote: | | Yep, a good guy on RIN provided a launcher and a folder with lots of mods. Haven't tried it myself though. |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 22:24 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | | I'm having a lot of fun playing an empire of xenophobic genocidal tentacleheads - being the scourge of the galaxy is fun, dump those hippie peace-loving civs of yours and get crackin'. |
Hahah Inz, you monster!
"but sir, we can't just build a wall in space"
"fine, we'll annihilate everybody then!"
I just started (finally) my boring pacifist run and can already see that I'm missing all the fun that way.
Still, I'm having a good time (the tutorial is also surprisingly thorough), but I'm only 3-4 hours in. It's a shame to read that a lot of cool stuff and potential interactions are barebones, I imagine revisiting the game in the future with all the goodies will be a must as per usual. |
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 22:48 Post subject: |
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I must whinge. I'm very sorry.
I want more customization for my ships. I hope mod makers can introduce new ship design styles, I especially want to make the Enterprise-D - with huge beam cannons
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| Posted: Fri, 13th May 2016 23:16 Post subject: |
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| zmed wrote: | | djaoni wrote: | | fawe4 wrote: | | What are Alien Pets for? |
I got some happiness building that required them. |
Yep, they are just another strategic resource, like batarian (or however it's spelled) stones. Those let you build some high-performance power plants for each source, and the pets let you build zoos IIRC, that boost happiness. |
I got the alliens some 20 years before that building research showed up. So I just stared at that cute icon not knowing what to do with it for a long time.
| zmed wrote: | Yeah, I'm still doing my first campaign, and now that everything is close to being colonised, it's getting a bit monotonous. I should start looking into some aggressive expansion opportunities.
My recommendation: start on a small map, even the smallest, without maxing out the possible AI empires. Room to expand, but not too overwhelming in the long run.
Also, there are definite signs that the game was rushed out the door too early (possibly to not cannibalize the HOI4 sales). The factions in the empire are woefully underdeveloped, they are mostly only asking for secession, and slaves never rebel, they just have a placeholder faction, that never goes beyond "no effect" even on 100% support (no surprise tho, as they said this is the case in one of the last pre-release streams), same for xenophile pops demanding slave emancipation. They don't demand policy changes, or asking to stop primitive-experimentation, or purists demanding a stop to genetic modifications, or things like that.
Also, the AI is pretty much braindead, but everyone knew that already.
But other than that, the game is still a blast, and despite these (temporary) shortcomings, it's definitey my favorite game of the year so far. I'm still playing the first campaign FFS, and no signs of stopping in the near future. |
My thoughts exactly. Another thing that I think is a bit underdeveloped currently is also research. I breezed through to lvl.2 lasers and missiles, and the got stuck with them for a long time. I got battleships before getting lvl.4 weapons and a big amount of those supposedly rare techs.
I got bored and went to war with dormant empire, and while they kicked my ass, I managed to down couple of their ships in my empire. One debris explored gives instant research access to all their weapon and armour techs. Research time is still very long, but I imagine that if you manage to waylay their transports you can shorten it considerably. Obviously you need to admit defeat and cede planets as soon as you get them, but the way that you cede planets to them isn't at all that unpleasant, since they don't take them and just leave them empty.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th May 2016 03:37 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: |
Hahah Inz, you monster!
"but sir, we can't just build a wall in space"
"fine, we'll annihilate everybody then!"
I just started (finally) my boring pacifist run and can already see that I'm missing all the fun that way.
Still, I'm having a good time (the tutorial is also surprisingly thorough), but I'm only 3-4 hours in. It's a shame to read that a lot of cool stuff and potential interactions are barebones, I imagine revisiting the game in the future with all the goodies will be a must as per usual. |
Yeah it tends to usually work out like Trump in Space™ - my favorite is the initial responses when new civs contact you. You have either the choice of "Alien scum!" or "Respect my authoritah, or else!", no half-measures right from the beginning.
It will definitely need a DLC or two to get more diplomacy options going, and especially some espionage so there's a more indirect way of affecting other empires. As it is right now, pacifists need to join an alliance/federation or build a massive fleet of their own anyway because that's the only real measure of your power and influence.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th May 2016 05:42 Post subject: |
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The complexity and depth in their games is outstanding, and it has to be admired, no matter what. This is actually pretty easy to understand, and get into, although to master, will take eons.
I always wanted to love and play Europa Universalis IV and CK2, but I'll admit, they both are way out of my league. Clever masterpieces, but untouchable to me I'm afraid. Maybe I just ain't got the patience to learn no more?, dunno?, but 2 games I always wished I could pick up and play.
They are on a role Paradox, and well deserved.
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Surray
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| Posted: Sat, 14th May 2016 08:20 Post subject: |
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Yeah i'm happy for paradox, though they worry me a bit now with EU4 where recently I was looking to get back into that.. and reviews say that they keep adding DLC stuff to the base game that you can't access without the DLC, but the game still uses the feature (AI does) so you screw yourself in the game if you don't buy it
That instantly scared me off again as I'm not interested in buying like the 5 DLCs that came out since I last played it.
I hope Stellaris isn't going down that same road.
Likot Mosuskekim, Woodcutter cancels Sleep: Interrupted by Elephant.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th May 2016 09:53 Post subject: |
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| Surray wrote: | Yeah i'm happy for paradox, though they worry me a bit now with EU4 where recently I was looking to get back into that.. and reviews say that they keep adding DLC stuff to the base game that you can't access without the DLC, but the game still uses the feature (AI does) so you screw yourself in the game if you don't buy it
That instantly scared me off again as I'm not interested in buying like the 5 DLCs that came out since I last played it.
I hope Stellaris isn't going down that same road. |
Off course they will, it's there business model.
Thank god for piracy.
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Surray
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| Posted: Sat, 14th May 2016 10:31 Post subject: |
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I don't have a problem with them making DLC because as you say, that's just what they do.
What I don't want is them waving those DLC features around in your face even if you don't have it, polluting your game with things you cannot use.
Likot Mosuskekim, Woodcutter cancels Sleep: Interrupted by Elephant.
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