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Jenni
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Location: England.
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Nah you're wrong. The members of the RIAA would eat their own grand mothers if there was a profit in it.
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Esel_Gesi
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Location: Chicago
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 23:20 Post subject: |
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Maybe it just wasn't cost effective to have to hire a whole bunch of lawyers and go through all of the court procedures and use all that paper when download will still go up and cd sales won't drastically change because of a few scare tactics.
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 23:30 Post subject: |
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We need to remember that it is stealing. Warez and such is wrong. Stealing is stealing.
Funny how pissed everyone gets when company's rip off people, but it is OK to rip of company's. Cooperations have employees that need the jobs to live off. We need to be more respectfully of these people that make the appz, gamez and such. There is to much of a ( we have the right to steal ) attitude here.
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 23:30 Post subject: |
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bleah... well maybe I'm a bit synical, who knows... makes you wonder though
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Esel_Gesi
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 23:33 Post subject: |
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| YourGod wrote: | We need to remember that it is stealing. Warez and such is wrong. Stealing is stealing.
Funny how pissed everyone gets when company's rip off people, but it is OK to rip of company's. Cooperations have employees that need the jobs to live off. We need to be more respectfully of these people that make the appz, gamez and such. There is to much of a ( we have the right to steal ) attitude here. |
Well considering what this site is are you really that suprised? Obviouisly it's staling but the folk here have justified it to themselves already so there will be no use trying to persuade. Just live and let live. |
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 23:49 Post subject: |
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I have been around ( warez ) since 1995. Did it all. But this attitude that it is OK to steal will only lead to radical actions from the people you are stealing from.
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 23:56 Post subject: |
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| YourGod wrote: | | I have been around ( warez ) since 1995. Did it all. But this attitude that it is OK to steal will only lead to radical actions from the people you are stealing from. |
wrong, just because Maddona releases an album, or EA makes another football game, means we have to go out and buy it.
The consumer sets the pace, and statisticly 60% or more of ISP traffic is illegal downloading, so you work it out... they'll be a future sooner than you think which by passes the publisher, in favour of a much more radiical relationship between the artist and consumer, oh and I've been downloading on company networks since late 93, so you aint done it all...
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 00:10 Post subject: |
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Yes , I have.
Stealing is stealing. End of story.
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 00:19 Post subject: |
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once again someone decides to go with the "its stealing" argument,
and once again i wonder how people cant see the big difference between
stealing and downloading copyrighted material.
when you steal something from a store, there is one copy less available for purchase,
so obviously you directly steal money from the publishers pocket.
when you download something, you dont take someone else the chance to buy it, you make a copy of it. so you dont steal any money from the publisher, in case you wouldnt ve bought it even if it wasnt available to download, which is true for more than 95% of downloads.
of course it is illegal, of course it is draining money from the companies, but you cannot put it equal to stealing, that argument is completely false.
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 00:23 Post subject: |
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| YourGod wrote: | Yes , I have.
Stealing is stealing. End of story. |
you call it steeling, I call it sharing, so do many, there's no end too this story, my freind
Society's correct moral behaviour is measured by the majority, and right now the majority are sharing data, regardless of existing copyright laws.
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051215/BIZ01/312150027
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 00:28 Post subject: |
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And drugs should be legal, also.
But all I am trying to point out is a attitude adjustment, here.
Nobody has the right to take what you don't pay for. Call it whatever you want.
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 00:38 Post subject: |
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| YourGod wrote: | And drugs should be legal, also.
But all I am trying to point out is a attitude adjustment, here.
Nobody has the right to take what you don't pay for. Call it whatever you want. |
your argument still assumes that the moral dimension here is consistant, which of course it's not as it continually evolving and changing.
The greatest utopian vision would suggest that the very basic moral right for human existance insists that all art and culture can be shared equally among everyone, regardless of their means. The sooner we get to this vison the better for us all.
Let's say the current predicament between publishers and their public highlights this problem very clearly...
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