Salvia Divinorum?
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feyenoord4ever




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 01:39    Post subject: Salvia Divinorum?
Anyone ever tried this? If so, please tell me about it Very Happy

I appears to be one of the most powerful herbs. I'm planning on doing some but i'd like to hear some people who have some experience with it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 01:44    Post subject:
Man, dont fuckin smoke it.

My buds and I did it before and seriously, EVERYONE got fuckin tripped out hardcore of one like .5 (.5 of a gram) bong. Like seriously, so paranoid and just like angry fucked up...and everyone I know who's smoked it said the same thing. Like they think everyone is staring at them or talking about them etc And you get all pumped up and feel like you wanna fight someone or break something...its so fucked, then it just goes away and you barely remember what you did.
Its like dank/wet/fry - a cigarette or spliff dipped in embalming fluid, dried then smoked - makes you FUCKED, like scary, hospital, danger to yourself fucked...would never smoke that again either.

Dont smoke it.
You know im down for just about any drug or substance that gets you fucked up, but dont smoke it man...seriously.
U can buy it legal here in Toronto at The Friendly Stranger and that other weed shop on yonge a few blocks from the eatons centre, THC or something like that...least when we smoked it, thats where we got it from....anyway yeah man, dont do it...and Ive done 5 hits of acid before and shit at a time (one on my tounge, one in each eye and later when we went into the sauna I stuck 2 more tabs to each side of my neck - cuz of the sweat it gets u fucked by going into your pores, not good to do tho) and seriously, I wouldnt smoke this shit again...nope.
Dont smoke it

DONT SMOKE IT


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feyenoord4ever




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 01:55    Post subject:
lol, you've obviously had a bad trip Very Happy

But isn't it better to smoke it when your in a calm place with not too many people? I mean, I think people are talking about me when I'm on weed and mushrooms too, so Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 02:15    Post subject:
feyenoord4ever wrote:
lol, you've obviously had a bad trip Very Happy

But isn't it better to smoke it when your in a calm place with not too many people? I mean, I think people are talking about me when I'm on weed and mushrooms too, so Razz


Yeah, but its not like that...yeah, u get a lil paro off ganja and shrooms, fuck, ive had some bad trips...buts it not like that. I dont know how to explain it man.

We were in a calm place, like 4 us, smokin some trees and shit, listening to some rappers my area, discussing shit, chill ya know? One of the guys busted out a bag of it and said lets try it, its was supposed to be like really strong erb. So we weighed out a .5 bong for each of us and all of us got the EXACT same feeling, like, almost instantly, like a minute after we exhaled.
And a few other ppl who werent there that I know said the same thing.
And the time one of my best friends and i were talking about it. I told him the story and he didnt believe me cuz all of my close friends and i have high tolerances for anything - strong hearts I guess Laughing
Anyway, he wanted to try it, so he grabbed some and we went back to my house. I broke out the $600 Bong - original Zong, medium thickness glass, 4 feet tall, glass bowl that fits about 9 grams when packed tight and colour changing, ive only seen 3 colours so far...red, blue and yellow, but I dont use it much and you have to smoke weed outta it for it to change colour right.

Anyway, he packed like 2 grams in the bowl (remember I did a .5 and it lasted for like 15 minutes) and hit it....guy, I had to lock him the bathroom for half an hour cuz he started to go nuts, like he thought I wanted to steal his kidneys and all this crazy shit and wanted to fight me and stuff.
And this guy is no pussy when it comes to partying - he can handle alot more than me, like when we do acid, he does 7 or 8 hits all the time, i usually drop 2 or 3...ive seen him eat 12 E's in 4 hours and be fine (like he didnt od or have any chest pains and shit).

Thats how I know this shit is fucked....DONT FUCKIN SMOKE IT...or if you do, do it when your in a good mood and when your alone...the buzz might be different, but still, I wouldnt smoke it alone considering what happened. The only reason I didnt do something stupid is because my friends were around and I didnt want to look like a retard who cant handle his shit ya know? Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 02:38    Post subject:
Showing off about drugs.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 03:09    Post subject:
Super_Dux wrote:
Showing off about drugs.... Rolling Eyes


How the fuck am I showing off? Im not ashamed of what i do because thats what i enjoy..I dont use shit to escape, I use it to find and expand and test myself.
And I was giving him examples of why he shouldnt smoke it, Im not fuckin joking when I say that.

Shit talker...


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tjuma




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 03:46    Post subject:
read some trip reports on sites like erowid to prepare you for the weird trip

preferable setting: with a sober tripsitter in a calm, dark place
it is likely that you lose coordination and it could be you knock some stuff around
(bong, candles whatever), so it's good to have someone take care of that
it's hard to say how much you have to smoke (some trip on 0.2g leafs, others need the 10x extract),
start out with a low amount
put the stuff in the bong, constantly heat it while you inhale, hold it in a while, exhale
and you should feel the effects in a few seconds, let the tripsitter take away the bong,
lay back/down, close your eyes, and feel how the gravity sucks you in

it's hard to say in which direction it goes
you could get one with/be a chair or live the life of a chinese fisherman
(read tripreports Smile )
the whole trip lasts about 10-20min, with an half an hour afterglow
it's good to write down what you remember from the trip,
read it later and try to understand the experience

i have never expierenced the things syco describes
this is no fun/party/recreational drug
dont do it if you are outside in the streets
where you could get uncomfortable, paranoid or other people could give you mood swings
the setting is extremly important

dont do it if you or someone in your family has a (latent) psychosis
it only gets worse (true with all psychedelica)
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 03:49    Post subject:
Yeah, tjuma, good idea with the sober thing.

But im serious and so telling the truth about the experiences ive had with that shit you know...maybe I'll give the sober person around while i smoke and see if its cool.


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feyenoord4ever




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 04:05    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Yeah, tjuma, good idea with the sober thing.

But im serious and so telling the truth about the experiences ive had with that shit you know...maybe I'll give the sober person around while i smoke and see if its cool.


Some people just react badly to some types of drugs. I never had any badtrip from mushrooms and i've done it at least 15 times. I had one very scary trip on weed, but this was after smoking extreme ammounts in a bong.

Thanks for the tip tjuma, I'll be extra careful I don't knock my bong around Very Happy I had that a few times before... You can imagine the horror, the stench that brought Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 07:03    Post subject:
oh man, i did some of this shit.. my buddy was recording me. i was laughing hysterically and everytime i looked at the camera it felt like these rays were comming off the lense in circular motion and it was pushing me away - i seriously felt like it was physically pushing me back, fell on my ass. but the trip was great, to short tho.
edit: it was just me and my friend, we were smoking the 20x vanilla flavored. we were both outside nobody around.. i just remeber laughing and looking behind me all the time seeing if i was being watched, but the camera part was the craziest.
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 08:39    Post subject:
did some when i was a bit younger at school, along with some of the other legal highs you can by and none of them seemed to have any of the effect they advertise as having, if at all any effect. always be suspicious of anything that gets you high and isnt illegal, as general rule of thumb anything that can make you trip out and possibly lose the plot governments dont want you to have so ban it pretty quick
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 11:42    Post subject: Re: Salvia Divinorum?
feyenoord4ever wrote:
Anyone ever tried this? If so, please tell me about it Very Happy

I appears to be one of the most powerful herbs. I'm planning on doing some but i'd like to hear some people who have some experience with it.


Salvia wont do much if your not a opiate(heroin , opium ) users .

But if you do heroin or did in the last 2 month , this IS MAD .

I heard report from ppl who said its very mad but all those where from ppl who took heroin .
I personaly tried it before i ever took heroin and i dint feel anything .

Its a waste of time when we know you can find some good xtc for cheap about everywhere . Its 100000x better . You can do XTC and trip for 7 hours laying donw on a bed with your GF , what is better than that? Take 2 or 3 xtc in the same time if its not enought Laughing


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or discus there (awsome board)
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/home.php
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talula




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 12:10    Post subject:
This is what happens if you try salvia:

vid 1

vid 2
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 12:13    Post subject:
moahaha, stupid stoners


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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 12:40    Post subject:
God damn stop talking about all those drugs all the time.
Mmm yeah sure your choice and all that but I can tell you something. Doing drugs every now and then is NOT cool. Go talk about that shit on flashback forums or something ffs!

I am here to talk warez and complain about Syco (and his threads) not someone elses thread about the same thing... Ngggggghhhhhhh (that is a very angry sound if you didn't get it Razz)



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feyenoord4ever




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 12:44    Post subject:
pancake wrote:
did some when i was a bit younger at school, along with some of the other legal highs you can by and none of them seemed to have any of the effect they advertise as having, if at all any effect. always be suspicious of anything that gets you high and isnt illegal, as general rule of thumb anything that can make you trip out and possibly lose the plot governments dont want you to have so ban it pretty quick


Sorry but I think this is complete bullshit. Mushrooms are as legal as beer is in here but I can tell you that doesn't mean they don't work. I prefer buying something legally rather than buying it from some dealer when you don't know what crap is in it.

Also I heard that you need to get used to Salvia, and lots of people don't feel a thing the first few times they smoke it, but it will work later when your brains are starting to recognize it.

starforcefan wrote:
Its a waste of time when we know you can find some good xtc for cheap about everywhere . Its 100000x better . You can do XTC and trip for 7 hours laying donw on a bed with your GF , what is better than that? Take 2 or 3 xtc in the same time if its not enought


You can't compare psychadelics with chemicals like XTC. When something is cheap it doesn't mean its better. Heroin is cheap and gets you as high as you can possibly get but it's addictive as hell. Chemacals are just cheaper...

Oh and another thing, I know for a fact that I cannot lie still on my bed on X, I can't even hold my jaws still Very Happy




Those vids are very funny btw Laughing


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feyenoord4ever




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 12:47    Post subject:
kosmiq wrote:
God damn stop talking about all those drugs all the time.
Mmm yeah sure your choice and all that but I can tell you something. Doing drugs every now and then is NOT cool. Go talk about that shit on flashback forums or something ffs!

I am here to talk warez and complain about Syco (and his threads) not someone elses thread about the same thing... Ngggggghhhhhhh (that is a very angry sound if you didn't get it Razz)


Drugs all the time? Where??

Don't you drink alcohol? I bet you do. And in case you didn't know, alcohol is a drug too. More than 60% of the people in rehabs are alcoholics. Anyway, stick to the subject! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 13:57    Post subject:
feyenoord4ever wrote:


Sorry but I think this is complete bullshit. Mushrooms are as legal as beer is in here but I can tell you that doesn't mean they don't work. I prefer buying something legally rather than buying it from some dealer when you don't know what crap is in it.



mushrooms used to be legal here to , as long as they werent processed, main reason being they grow wild without no human help whatsoever so theres jack shit the authorities could do if you had a big patch growing in your garden. so they said as long as they werent processed, i.e dried out in a tea or whatever, then they changed it to possesion i think as everyone was getting trolleyed on shrooms.
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 13:58    Post subject:
there is a dutch website where you can even order it from, cant remember the website adress at teh moment but i ll google a bit. They have a user-forum for drug-talk and experience-reports there

edit: cant find the one i have bookmarked at home, but found this one: www.highstreet.nl
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 15:55    Post subject:
feyenoord4ever wrote:

starforcefan wrote:
Its a waste of time when we know you can find some good xtc for cheap about everywhere . Its 100000x better . You can do XTC and trip for 7 hours laying donw on a bed with your GF , what is better than that? Take 2 or 3 xtc in the same time if its not enought


You can't compare psychadelics with chemicals like XTC. When something is cheap it doesn't mean its better. Heroin is cheap and gets you as high as you can possibly get but it's addictive as hell. Chemacals are just cheaper...

Oh and another thing, I know for a fact that I cannot lie still on my bed on X, I can't even hold my jaws still Very Happy




Those vids are very funny btw Laughing



Look , i dont compare anything .
I say salvia is a waste of time , hes probaly wont even feel anything .
Its good for HEROIN user because heroin install semi-permanent stuff in your brain that salvia use to make you hallucinate .
Without them , salvia wont do shit on you .

Now i say take XTC intead because its a good psychadelic for most newbie and if you cant lay on your bed on XTC , its because you dint do 100% pure xtc .


For the thread starter :
If you are new with psychadelic , try XTC or maybe acid/lsd. If you did psychadelic in the past and you are searching for something else , search for 2C-I and 2C-E , these are awsome psychadelics legal easy to find on the web , but hard to consume because you need a scale or a brain . .


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so, who of you wants to be my new crack-hoes? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 16:15    Post subject:
feyenoord4ever wrote:
pancake wrote:
did some when i was a bit younger at school, along with some of the other legal highs you can by and none of them seemed to have any of the effect they advertise as having, if at all any effect. always be suspicious of anything that gets you high and isnt illegal, as general rule of thumb anything that can make you trip out and possibly lose the plot governments dont want you to have so ban it pretty quick


Sorry but I think this is complete bullshit. Mushrooms are as legal as beer is in here but I can tell you that doesn't mean they don't work. I prefer buying something legally rather than buying it from some dealer when you don't know what crap is in it.

Also I heard that you need to get used to Salvia, and lots of people don't feel a thing the first few times they smoke it, but it will work later when your brains are starting to recognize it.




PPL are retarded , YOU NEED TO BE A HEROIN USER TO FELL SALVIA .
PPL who say they got hight on salvia are either COMPLETE RETARDED WASP WHORE who cant reconize normal-mind and hight-mind or heroin user that forgot to tell you they took heroin lately .
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 16:20    Post subject:
Starforcefan wrote:
feyenoord4ever wrote:
pancake wrote:
did some when i was a bit younger at school, along with some of the other legal highs you can by and none of them seemed to have any of the effect they advertise as having, if at all any effect. always be suspicious of anything that gets you high and isnt illegal, as general rule of thumb anything that can make you trip out and possibly lose the plot governments dont want you to have so ban it pretty quick


Sorry but I think this is complete bullshit. Mushrooms are as legal as beer is in here but I can tell you that doesn't mean they don't work. I prefer buying something legally rather than buying it from some dealer when you don't know what crap is in it.

Also I heard that you need to get used to Salvia, and lots of people don't feel a thing the first few times they smoke it, but it will work later when your brains are starting to recognize it.




PPL are retarded , YOU NEED TO BE A HEROIN USER TO FELL SALVIA .
PPL who say they got hight on salvia are either COMPLETE RETARDED WASP WHORE who cant reconize normal-mind and hight-mind or heroin use that forgot to tell you they took heroin lately .


That's the weirdest thing I've heard in years...you're telling us that you have to use Heroin first before you fel the affects of Salvia?
That's like telling people to smoke crack first and then weed otr else you won't feel the effect of the weed... Rolling Eyes
BTW: stop calling people names, stop acting like a 3-year old


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And then Mabel tripped over a rock and landed in a well and was trapped there with Timmy. Sadly I shot Lassie so no one is saving that bitch!
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 16:25    Post subject:
Starforcefan wrote:

Salvia suck ass if your not a heroin user , simple as that . You need to have the heroin receptor to use and see what is salvia .

Laughing
oh man who told you that?
you know everybody has these receptors (µ & kappa) and that your body produces his own opiods (endorphine)

maybe you just mistake salvia div. for ibogaine, which can help heroin addicts overcome their addiction
edit: ok just read your last post, and you really believe in that, lmao
i had many trips on salvia divinorum, the only opioid i took was codein when i had a cold


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ApeX PredatoR wrote:
Starforcefan wrote:
feyenoord4ever wrote:


Sorry but I think this is complete bullshit. Mushrooms are as legal as beer is in here but I can tell you that doesn't mean they don't work. I prefer buying something legally rather than buying it from some dealer when you don't know what crap is in it.

Also I heard that you need to get used to Salvia, and lots of people don't feel a thing the first few times they smoke it, but it will work later when your brains are starting to Heroin acts on endogenous opioid receptors that are spread in discrete packets throughout the brain in almost all mammals.recognize it.




PPL are retarded , YOU NEED TO BE A HEROIN USER TO FELL SALVIA .
PPL who say they got hight on salvia are either COMPLETE RETARDED WASP WHORE who cant reconize normal-mind and hight-mind or heroin use that forgot to tell you they took heroin lately .


That's the weirdest thing I've heard in years...you're telling us that you have to use Heroin first before you fel the affects of Salvia?
That's like telling people to smoke crack first and then weed otr else you won't feel the effect of the weed... Rolling Eyes
BTW: stop calling people names, stop acting like a 3-year old


Im not telling ppl to use heroin before salvia , im saying you need to be a heroin user to fell salvia . Never i will tell somebody to do herion .

When you do Heroin , it install stuff in your brain "receptor" . These receptor STAY on the brain for even MONTHS for future heroin use . Salvia USE these receptor as WELL !




i dint call anybody in this forum names , i said those you tell the guy in an other place who got hight on salvia was what i said .


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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 16:29    Post subject:
tjuma wrote:
Starforcefan wrote:

Salvia suck ass if your not a heroin user , simple as that . You need to have the heroin receptor to use and see what is salvia .

Laughing
oh man who told you that?
you know everybody has these receptors (µ & kappa) and that your body produces his own opiods (endorphine)

maybe you just mistake salvia div. for ibogaine, which can help heroin addicts overcome their addiction
edit: ok just read your last post, and you really believe in that, lmao
i had many trips on salvia divinorum, the only opioid i took was codein when i had a cold


Na heroin install receptor , salvia use them .
Most ppl say Salvia dont do any effect even when you smoke a kilos .
PPl that fell something on salvia are heroin users .
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 16:30    Post subject:
Starforcefan wrote:

"Heroin acts on endogenous opioid receptors that are spread in discrete packets throughout the brain in almost all mammals."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin


there you answer it yourself...almost all mamals already have those receptors. Heroin does not "install" these receptors...it simply uses them just like Salvia does.


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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 16:39    Post subject:
ApeX PredatoR wrote:
Starforcefan wrote:

"Heroin acts on endogenous opioid receptors that are spread in discrete packets throughout the brain in almost all mammals."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin


there you answer it yourself...almost all mamals already have those receptors. Heroin does not "install" these receptors...it simply uses them just like Salvia does.


I deleted these link before you posted it . Ill try to find the good one .
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 16:51    Post subject:
What i meant to say is , heroin use the receptor in the brain by installing key in the lock(receptor) . But the key stay in the receptor(lock) for a long while .
Salvia use these infected receptor .

I cant find the page about this , ill ask it in a forum what is the real name of it .



Again , if you read trip report of salvia , most ppl will tell you they dint feel anything .
Me and friends smoked a lot of this crap from a good reputation seller and nothing .
A band of punk smoked salvia (they where all smack addict) and they got so mad hight , i never saw/heard such trip . Its like they did 1 liter of lsd .


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Ever tried DXM(Dextrometaorphan), Syco?
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