I think the vive looks great. I prefer it over the cloth rift!
The problem i have with the vive is the amount of wires and power sockets needed. Then the routing of cables under carpet and drilling in my walls to fit the lighthouses. I also don't have a big enough area in my computer room, so room scale would be pointless for me.
Having to power on 3 sockets every time i want to use VR will piss me off. Simple once setup i know but these things bug the fuck out of me
The Rift is one usb plug for the sensor and the headset has one wire that splits and plugs directly into the PC.. Simples.
2 things i think are great from the vive, front camera (invaluable) and launch with the wireless controllers, although i think the rifts touch controllers look and will feel better once they eventually release!
Ya its not an necessarily an easy wiring project if you want it to all to look neat. Lighthouses are passive so only power needed, i'd just hide the wiring in the roof given they will be mounted in high corners of the room. The headset looks like it has a station to plug into, my guess is for active usb cable as 3-5 meters is max passive length.
End of day, room-scale is optional, i'm more interested in the seated games initially although I can tell it has a hell of a lot to offer. That said, I think the motion controls / some input outside of mouse/keys/gamepad is 100% necessary. It's been posted before, jump to 3 mins
What a great time to own a Vive... Steam is littered with shitty tech demo games that are overpriced. Reminds me a lot off the crappy games they were peddling with the motion sensor hype and the Wii.
Sad part is that even if you don't own a VR kit they still recommend you the games and plaster their whole store front with it. Would have been better to have an option to enable or disable those games (not that bothered by the VR banner though, I get they need to advertise their new hardware).
Hope this doesn't last too long and you see more worthwhile games/software for it. To be fair there are a few already... just that a lot of crap is flooding in now.
It's a new tech, of course you can't expect that many good games after a few days.
I don't, I expect them to have less shit games on there
But yeah, I know... You can't really expect those things these days when you look at the stuff they have on greenlight and such.
In my country, steam controllers still say "coming soon". Can only imagine how ridiculous they will fuck these vive orders up, good thing im slowly building a new rig so can wait.
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Are orders processed and shipped in the order received?
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I paid for express shipping, but I received economy shipping. Why?
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What do I do if my order has been delayed?
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I was charged, but didn’t receive my tracking information. Why?
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This is one of the reasons I cancelled my pre-order - that plus the fact that I broke my sacred rule: "Never buy something no-one has tested before you".
i´d buy it in a heartbeat but thank god i´m too poor to spend my money on a first-gen device.the future of these VR things is a bright one and i´m pretty sure that after the initial wave of shit/shoveware for VR,there will be many gems and better devices in the future.
in this moment,i am euphoric.not because of some phony device but because my medication kicks in
paxsali wrote:
Now, I don't know what hardware costs in Poland, I guess it's cheaper because everything is stolen from Germany and resold...
Went to EGX Rezzed today, and while the official Vive test was filled up for the day, there was an indie booth that demoed it, and the line was barely 30 minutes long, so I gave it a go. It was an alien-fruit-vendor kinda game, and while the game itself was basic and repetitive as all hell, the tech itself was pretty amazing. Everything immediately fell into place, it was very comfortable, although the controlers were just a tiny bit jittery, but still perfectly usable.
No way in hell does it worth the price, but maybe in a year or two it will be a viable peripheral with reasonable pricing. Until then, the early adopters will work out the kinks for us.
Went to EGX Rezzed today, and while the official Vive test was filled up for the day, there was an indie booth that demoed it, and the line was barely 30 minutes long, so I gave it a go. It was an alien-fruit-vendor kinda game, and while the game itself was basic and repetitive as all hell, the tech itself was pretty amazing. Everything immediately fell into place, it was very comfortable, although the controlers were just a tiny bit jittery, but still perfectly usable.
No way in hell does it worth the price, but maybe in a year or two it will be a viable peripheral with reasonable pricing. Until then, the early adopters will work out the kinks for us.
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boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
Why are the hand just floating? I don't see why a body can't just be there. Riddick did it 12 years ago. This just breaks immersion, something that is supposed to be at the top of the list for a VR "experience".
I haven't seen any "arms" in any of the Vive-games... Weird.. Why is that?
It has always boggled my mind why "body" awareness is so rarely implemented into fps games. It always takes me out of the experience looking down and seeing the character is floating around. In recent years, even worse offenders are the full-body shadow-casing hoverers. Games have already proven this works well. Riddick, FEAR, Thief 3, Alien Isolation, etc. No reason but laziness.
They don't render the arms because your wrists and elbows aren't tracked so the movement of the ingame arms wouldn't match your real ones and that is even more immersion breaking than floating hands.
There have been people experimenting with this and using inverse kinematics for arm movement doesn't 100% match your real arms and it just feels wrong.
I don't think it would be that immersion breaking. If the wrist is tracked (which is what the two remotes do, among other things), it should be possible to approximate the position good enough. Also, since you do not see your own body, the immersion breaking from small inaccuracies is quite limited, I think. Certainly much more so than having floating libs. For a Rayman game, this would be cool. Not so much for an FPS.
Yeah you're right about wrist being tracked by the controller. I think it would have to be elbow and shoulder then. I'm not talking from experience but this has been discussed multiple times on reddit and the conclussion was that it just feels wrong if it doesn't match your real arms.
You can put your arms in alot of different positions without moving the controller or your head, which are the only things being tracked.
Apparently even virtual hands feel kinda weird and alot of games just render the vive controllers or virtual objects you're holding for that reason.
So we are stuck in uncanny valley limbo, where some are bothered by 98% accurate limbs and others are bothered by flying character body with satellite hands.
I wish there would be an option, like in the old shooters, where you could select if you want to see the gun or not.
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