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| GP Force wrote: |
"looks like 800x600 at low settings for the pc omfg crap."
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Funny COD2 on 360 looks awesome |
He is right it does look worse than PC unless you have a crappy gfxcard, you can see the filtering wich cant be more than trilinear just 2 meters ahead of you and after that its the "kingdom of bluryness" and the textures are surely no more than normal, while on PC you still have high and extra !
But for example Gotham Racing is uber in Gfx, its just that most or all ports like Cod2 and Quake 4 are the same or worse than PC (read Cod2) !
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Supino
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| Posted: Sat, 10th Dec 2005 18:06 Post subject: |
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I hate fan-talk, but I know I have a little fan in me as well... so I can't blame you guys..
But every fan argument always turns into crap. Can you at least TRY to be objective?
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| Posted: Sat, 10th Dec 2005 18:14 Post subject: |
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ok i admit, the x360 has somewhat better graphics than amiga 500, and i love my amiga!
there, objective enough?
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GP Force
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| Posted: Sat, 10th Dec 2005 19:02 Post subject: |
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| D_A_Kuja wrote: | i m not saying that what x360 is showing in the line-up is its full power, but in comparison to previous generations it doesnt nearly have the same impact.
everyone was amazed when the consoles from the previous generation came out, same when the consoles of current generation were released, but this time its like, well its nice graphics, i think it even looks better than pc, i think.
cmon thats bullshit, thats not the way a next-gen console should start. before this it was always like, damn this new console´s graphics are out of this world, far better than anything i ve seen on pc, but this time people are actually debating whether the gaphics are better than pc or not. i dont care if its only the beginning of the console, its the weakest beginning ever.
if i m not completely blown away at the start i wont be ever. |
Lol there you go again.. what in gods name are you now talking about? When PS2 was launched I thought about buying one, but the grapichs were not as impressive as we thought I should be.. Almost a year, a YEAR passed before PS2 started to show some really nice games (grapichal) like MGS2. I bought MSG2, finished it then I sold my PS2 for an xbox, and I started to get impressed.
I was a pc gamer when ps2 launched it took a year before I was impressed with the line up, but after MGS2 I bought an xbox and I saw how the console market improved.
Remember Tekken Tag or shall I say Tekken 3.1?
Yes your right the launch games looks equal to a high end pc or better, is that a bad start?
but in comparison to previous generations it doesnt nearly have the same impact.
How old are you? Or better yet did you own a high end pc when ps2 was laucnhed (I did)? Like I said it took like a year before the titles started to impress.
NEXT GENERATION.. do you think it's all about GRAPICHS? NEWSFLASH, it's not. Were talking about new ways to interact with media/games/movies etc etc... PDZ/KAMEO/PG3 is next gen in terms of gfx, controlls,enviroments, interaction etc etc. Sure I expect to see NEXTGEN gfx as well, but were talking about a launch here people, and im NOT disapointed
That's what I like about sony, some of their games might not have UBER gfx but they sure as hell are fun to play 
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| Posted: Sat, 10th Dec 2005 21:59 Post subject: |
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Its bad enough that people fight over x360 and ps3 but then you get the tools who buy the latest pc hardware every month. They have to put down the consoles because they need to fill good about blowing huge amounts of cash on stuff that the console will do for years. New consoles just get better and better. You spend all that money for a new pc but theres barely any good games to play! You get some fps's and a mmo. If your lucky, ya get a game like max payne. Consoles are number 1 for games because they have every type of game, every genre. Remember when the xbox was coming out and everyone said that the games will be ported to the pc, how many games actually were ported? Halo took forever and thats the last time we heard of xbox ports.
My question to ps3 backers, how do you defend the slow blu-ray drive? To x360 backers who own a one, any problems with the console?
Vote Pro-Gun.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 01:15 Post subject: |
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Ggl.com compared the graphics on the Xbox 360 with those on a high-end PC. The PC is an AMD FX-55 CPU, with dual NVIDIA 6800 Ultra video cards running in SLI and RAID 0 on dual Western Digital 74gig 8MB cache 10,000 RPM drives.
They compared the graphics on PC and Xbox360 in ‘Call of Duty 2' and ‘King Kong', 2 games that are released on both platforms, using the same high-definition LCD monitor. PC games ran at 1280x768, a close approximation to the 1280x720 the 360 provides when running in 720p.
Here's their conclusion:
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At this point it's clear to say that the 360 is capable of delivering graphics at least as impressive as a far more expensive gaming PC. And, while PC hardware will always be progressing, so too will 360 developers be optimizing, and so it can be expected that Microsoft's new console will keep up at least for the next few years.
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Check out the full article: ggl.com
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 01:20 Post subject: |
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Oh and for the guy who said that 'lololzllzolz layk im a fag. cod2 looks like 600*400 rilly shit on 360':
Both feature the same impressive explosions and smoke effects, the same detailed player models, and the same impressive terrain. The PC version sports slightly more noticeable muzzle flashes and slightly higher-res textures, but these details are likely to go unnoticed even by the most hardcore gamers. With smooth frame rates being delivered on the console and on the PC, it’d be hard to pick one over the other just by looks.
The games are not the same, however. Load times on the PC are much slower than on the 360, averaging in the 30-35 second range vs. about 10-15 on the 360. Once you’re in a mission, though, difficulty and overall gameplay are identical, with the same objectives, enemies, and elements found in both.
For king kong:
While both games feature the same character animations and basic environment layouts, the visuals on the 360 version are far, far more detailed and attractive than those on the PC. Specular highlighting is used extensively on the 360 to give wet rocks and walls a glimmering sheen totally lacking on the PC version. Bump mapping gives otherwise flat textures some depth. These effects make Kong’s scarred face look more realistic and highlight the subtle bumps and ridges on the skin of a T-Rex. While the PC game is far from unattractive, it simply doesn’t compare to the one that runs on the little white box.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 01:42 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 02:51 Post subject: |
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yea looks really good, i played pgr3 today on a hd screen and it looks amazing.
it doesnt seem to run at more than 60 fps but it looks really sharp and realistic.
now i cant say if its the graphics or the hd screen that makes this game look fantastic, but i guess its both.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 02:52 Post subject: |
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PGR3 actually only runs at 30fps.
But the motion blur really helps it look smoother than 30fps.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 02:59 Post subject: |
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lol really, thats weak.
well 30 fps is good enough as mgs3 ran in that speed and it was fluent,
but i was expecting atleast the next-gen launch games to run at 60.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 04:53 Post subject: |
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Hmm I have King Kong for PC and Xbox and have played it for about 30 minutes on the Xbox but after reading that, I may get it for the 360 and play it through! They had a pre-owned one in my Gamestation for £35!
One of the games I said to myself I would never get, I have just been playing for the last 5 hours and that game is Kameo. Wow! Talk about a good looking game! It reminds me a lot of Fable but has really far surpassed my expectations in every way! I highly recommend it to any 360 owners who dont already have it!
May the NFOrce be with you always.
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Supino
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 12:04 Post subject: |
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I just bought EDGE (the magasine):
This is what J Allard says about the lineup:
Question from EDGE to J Allard:
What was the first pice of 360 game software that you played that made you say: "Yes, that's it, that's what we were trying to accomplish"?
Answer from J Allard:
"Uh - well, in a way it hasn't happened yet, I would say" .... "I'm not a big fan of firstperson shooters, they're not my personal preference."
Another quote from J Allard:
"These erly games? They cut a lot of corners, they got hardware late - we came in hot with the hardware, because the difference between the alpha, the beta and the final versions were all material differences, so these erly games are just scratching the surface. But I still think it's the best launch line-up of any console ever."
Edit: One think is for sure; J Allard isn't hyping the 360 in this interview! A very good read.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 13:33 Post subject: |
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[quote="Elazul"] | Quote: |
So you call Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero, Ridge Racer 6, Condemned and Dead or Alive 4 "cheap ports"? They are 360 exclusive and were released the same day as the console. I thought the release games were great! |
there mediocre at best..same shit different console.
and if anyone has played tiger woods on 360,have you seen the shitty redraw rate of the crowd as the ball goes through the air.utter shit it is.
as for j allard,hes a total wanker,i love it when the "suits" dont have a clue about there product.
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Supino
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 13:53 Post subject: |
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@RottenFoxBreath
When you end up writing a useless post like that, you will never be taken seriously.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 20:06 Post subject: |
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At least he's honest.
Anyway, I played quake 4 on the 360 today, and I must say it ran like shit, it was like the settings were too high. Now, I don't know if it's because the 360 couldn't handle it, or because it's a bad port, but i'm hoping it's the latter.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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GP Force
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 20:10 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | At least he's honest.
Anyway, I played quake 4 on the 360 today, and I must say it ran like shit, it was like the settings were too high. Now, I don't know if it's because the 360 couldn't handle it, or because it's a bad port, but i'm hoping it's the latter. |
I think it's pretty obvious it was a rushed port.
At least he's honest???
Pdz/Cod/Condemned/PG3 are great launch titles if you ask me, what is it you don't like?
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 20:44 Post subject: |
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Well my post wasn't that clear, I was referring to J Allard as being honest, not that twat RottenFoxBreath.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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GP Force
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Dec 2005 18:08 Post subject: |
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nice supino,and animalmother,low post,i must be a twat,not just someone who didnt enjoy any of the games
im just someone who felt that £50 was a bit much for average call of duty,another average ww2 shooter,then theres another in a long line of unspecial generic racers,quake 4,far better on the pc a truly poor rushed port.
kameo,after all these years in development is shit--gee thanks rare!
im entitled to an opinion,and really none of those games warrant a £50 purchase,if you want to go out an "must have " one of the average games,then go ahead,ill wait till there half or less price,if at all.
none will be remembered as AAA titles,just more mainstream shit to add to an expanding lacklustre title library.
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Supino
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Dec 2005 19:53 Post subject: |
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ok sorry man. But I got the impression that you wanted to criticise the 360 just for the sake of criticising it.
What you say here makes a lot more sense though. I just want your arguments to be objective.
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Dec 2005 12:52 Post subject: |
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About this Xbox360 vs PS3 thing...you know what?
I´M GONNA END UP BUYING BOTH ANYWAY!
Watercooled 5950X | AORUS Master X570 | Asus RTX 3090 TUF Gaming OC | 64Gb RAM | 1Tb 970 Evo Plus + 2Tb 660p | etc etc
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 15:22 Post subject: |
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| TheBugulous wrote: | | I don't see the point buying a next-gen console with a) no modchip available, b) limited new titles @ rip-off prices & c) having to buy a 720p or 1080i tv @ > £1000 to properly see those new grafix. You can modchip an XBoX for several hundred pounds & have access to 1000's of titles, all quite viewable on a normal WS TV setup with 5.1 DTS. Throw in a wireless controller & you're set |
some people actually buy games and are not as poor as you |
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Dec 2005 01:39 Post subject: |
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^ well so far i cant see any xbox smash titles coming anytime soon. i mean the xbox didnt exactly have that huge of a of a succesful line up in the first place.. so unless theyre gonna come up with something truly revolutionary i'll be expecting a follow up to halo, splinter cell and endless sequels to DOA in order to keep fighting fans happy. i think i can count the xbox' top franchises on one hand only lol.
the playstation... well lets not go there with its beyond huge succesful amount of games.
it is kinda funny though that the *fanboy* can only focus on hardware issues... prob why xbox has always been shittier compared to the ps2. they can complain and scare all they want but all they can ever do is complain about the hardware... nobody ever talks shit about the games lol.
sheesh advertizing for sheer power prob works around the PC area but wont exactly do shit on a console.
anyways the only thing on that list that might scare me away from a ps3 is indeed the prize. but im pretty sure most of us would work overtime day and night if a game is truly worth it(and the ps has more than its share of games that are worth it) and thats prob why the xbox will never overshadow the ps.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Dec 2005 03:01 Post subject: |
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There are loads of great games coming out in march next year.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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