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Nodrim
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| harry_theone wrote: |
@Nodrim People surely "overhyped" the game, by staying open minded and posting their >>>opinions<<<. Classy way of saying you don't really care what others say but your own shit. Sorry it's been happening so much in the past months you just got to be the one I speak this out to. But honestly, I don't give a fuck what person x thinks I should think, unless they spam the thread with it until it gets annoying. |
What you say goes both ways, you know that right?! And I don't think u'r the one to judge if some people care of not of other's opinions considering your flaming posts in regards to any objective criticism directed to this game. Only looking at the last two pages how people got ablaze over the complaints about the in-existence of an endgame proves a lot.
It's a game that is far from being flawless, only saying that is good and fun (such a subjective factor) doesn't help the game grow as much as saying that is shit. It's also an MMO, even if you want it or not, so the fact that is "fun" for 40-50 hours means squat considering the genre tagged on by the developers. MMOs are supposed to be fun for hundreds or thousands of hours with release material and apparently Massive didn't really want to learn from years of experience of other developers which is in the detriment of a game with such great potential. But lets close ours eyes, right?!
Anyone made it to DZ rank 50? I'm building my way up to rank 30 (currently at 27), but looking at the vendors for 30 I don't see much useful gear left to buy besides of a few mods for weapons/gear.
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 13:50 Post subject: |
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| ClaudeFTW wrote: | | Kinda tired of Forbes slamming this game ever since it came out. |
Well Forbes is hardly the grand bastion of gaming writing, it's like PC Gamer writing a damning indictment of Wall Street...
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 13:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 14:19 Post subject: |
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I can't recall a single MMO in existence that didn't have problems with endgame at launch.
Content exhaustion is completely and utterly inevitable for this genre.
For what Division is, I think launch content is decent and above par, considering the detail involved.
Smart people would savor it and not rush through it.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 14:33 Post subject: |
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FFS guys, get a room and fuck already, damn 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 14:33 Post subject: |
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| Nosmirchjgkjhghjg wrote: | | Not in Uplay. If you buy the India Steam version then it needs activating in Steam with a VPN but then you can set Steam offline and it doesn't care if your VPN is connected when launching. If you buy the Origin India version there's no region locking and no VPN requirement for adding into Uplay or launching. |
Good to know. Thanks.
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 14:58 Post subject: |
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| Nodrim wrote: | | Casus wrote: | I can't recall a single MMO in existence that didn't have problems with endgame at launch.
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I don't remember an AAA MMO that was lacking endgame content so much. I mean GW2 wasn't great on endgame content but it launched with explorable dungeons (3 for each dungeon), arenas and WvW and that's a lot of content above what The Division has to offer. Heck, even the developers are aware of the situation as they rapidly nerfed the drop of phoenix credits in DZ because there are already players that got nothing left to do. 
Hopefully those Incursions will drop 1 each month, that will make a difference and the DZ update in May will make the area more interactive and thus changing how it plays (now is mostly a PvE fest).
The thing I fear is that The Division will follow in the footsteps of Siege and the major problems will be overlooked like it happened there with netcode, cheaters, etc. |
The point is that every time a new MMO is out - I start hearing a lot of people whining about lack of endgame content within a week of release.
This has been true of almost all MMOs, even WoW - which I think had a ridiculous amount of content at launch. Same goes for ESO and GW2.
But some people are simply on fire to get through things.
I admit that Division isn't as rich in content as ESO and WoW at launch - but the level of detail in terms of environments and story material, including videos and and audio files is pretty impressive.
That kind of content takes a lot of time to produce and I'm actually quite impressed with how much this game has launched with.
But then again, maybe I just appreciate the amount of detail in how they've recreated New York more than another samey hill or forest in the average MMO.
Take a minute and just look at the stuff around you in Division, and you'll start seeing it's not endless repetition. Well, I don't think so.
Of course it's all city blocks, stores and apartment buildings - but still.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 15:28 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 15:44 Post subject: |
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@Nodrim
I think those people that are disappointed just read about the game, and didn't play any of the beta events.
If they had, it was pretty clear what you can expect in the full game.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 15:46 Post subject: |
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Btw what is the cheapest Steam-version price without any VPN tricks?
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 15:53 Post subject: |
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Try another VPN.
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Danyutz
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 15:55 Post subject: |
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What the fuck is wrong with recalibration!? Ruined 2 of my items. Selected stat that i wanted to change, list on the right showed possible replacements, press space, it loads a different list of stats than the initial one, select w/ever because you can't go back and it changes to a whole different stat. This is fucked up!
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 15:56 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 16:25 Post subject: |
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| Danyutz wrote: | What the fuck is wrong with recalibration!? Ruined 2 of my items. Selected stat that i wanted to change, list on the right showed possible replacements, press space, it loads a different list of stats than the initial one, select w/ever because you can't go back and it changes to a whole different stat. This is fucked up!
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I had that, not used it since but would like to use it more at some point if it really works lol.
Rolled what I thought was a DPS + stat but it for some reason decided it was going to be a health stat when it was applied. Meh. |
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 17:06 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: |
The point is that every time a new MMO is out - I start hearing a lot of people whining about lack of endgame content within a week of release.
This has been true of almost all MMOs, even WoW - which I think had a ridiculous amount of content at launch. Same goes for ESO and GW2. |
An MMO is supposed to have at least _some_ end-game content and if they don't then people are absolutely right to complain about it.
I mean, if people are having fun playing this then good for them (they got their money's worth) but for others who might be looking forward to some actual end-game this might be a deal-breaker (at least at launch). |
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 17:59 Post subject: |
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| Mr.Tinkles wrote: | | Casus wrote: |
The point is that every time a new MMO is out - I start hearing a lot of people whining about lack of endgame content within a week of release.
This has been true of almost all MMOs, even WoW - which I think had a ridiculous amount of content at launch. Same goes for ESO and GW2. |
An MMO is supposed to have at least _some_ end-game content and if they don't then people are absolutely right to complain about it.
I mean, if people are having fun playing this then good for them (they got their money's worth) but for others who might be looking forward to some actual end-game this might be a deal-breaker (at least at launch). |
The Dark Zone is the endgame content. This has been clear from the beginning.
You rank up and you perfect your loot - much like any loot-driven game.
If you want to bitch, that's fine - but I don't think bitching about the game being exactly as advertised is particularly appealing behavior.
Personally, I've never played an MMO that had "satisfying" end-game content at launch. Even the most content-packed MMOs start out with very few raids - if any at all.
To some, repeating the same raid over and over is "endgame" content that's good, but to me it's supremely dreary and dull after the first time.
I'd much, MUCH rather enter a PvE/PvP zone with unpredictable players. That will remain fresh until you've maxed out your gear or you're sick of the core gameplay. At that point, no amount of endgame content would really change your mind.
So, I don't agree that Division doesn't have endgame content.
I agree that it could have more - like any game could. That said, they've outlined a plan for the next year - detailing exactly what will be coming.
That's more than enough for anyone to make a reasonably informed decision about whether to get it or not.
Personally, I think it's one of the most fun cooperative experiences I've had in years. I regret nothing.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 18:37 Post subject: |
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man, i hate this game.. i spend an hour at a time in the base changing gear, selling, buying, calibrating 
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 19:35 Post subject: |
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| DimQa wrote: | | escalibur wrote: | | Try another VPN. |
Bought it from India Origin for 24 Euros. But i guess i won't be playing it, because:
"We’re processing your order and still need some time to deliver your game.
We process most orders within 24 hours. In order to protect our customers, we sometimes require additional verification and it can take up to 48 hours to complete an order."
Damn |
Let us know about the results. 
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It also relates a bit with the Noble Squad echoes. It's somewhat hard to believe that an online game has a better written story than a singleplayer game like Rise of the Tomb Raider (ironically, the winner for best writing...).
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