Tom Calancy’s The Division
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Meridius55




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 09:47    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
http://www.gamesrocket.com/download/Tom-Clancys-The-Division.html

Nice price (33,95€). Anyone have bought games there, price is tempting.
wut? I see it listed at 43,95€.
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 10:12    Post subject:
Last night had to be the best session so far, only played for a couple of hours with Bob, but we did a long mission on hard and then some wandering around DZ - fluid gameplay, with some minor fps drops for 1-2s. Enemies sure are harder to kill and hit harder than beta.

Does anyone know how enemy scaling works? I was group leader ( lvl 10, Bob was 20 ), I set the mission on Hard and all the enemies were 20, shouldn't they be at my level, since I started the mission? :Scratch:
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 10:30    Post subject:
Meridius55 wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:
http://www.gamesrocket.com/download/Tom-Clancys-The-Division.html

Nice price (33,95€). Anyone have bought games there, price is tempting.
wut? I see it listed at 43,95€.


Yes it seems that price have gone up suddenly Very Happy.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 10:33    Post subject:
Danyutz wrote:
Last night had to be the best session so far, only played for a couple of hours with Bob, but we did a long mission on hard and then some wandering around DZ - fluid gameplay, with some minor fps drops for 1-2s. Enemies sure are harder to kill and hit harder than beta.

Does anyone know how enemy scaling works? I was group leader ( lvl 10, Bob was 20 ), I set the mission on Hard and all the enemies were 20, shouldn't they be at my level, since I started the mission? :Scratch:


They probably scale with the highest level so the mission doesn't become a cakewalk. I'm kind of talking out of my ass thought since i know next to nothing about the game, but it seems logical nonetheless.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 11:15    Post subject:
Played with fubar, Mighty and OSJ (for a shorter while) yesterday, the Power Plant and Police Academy (did this on hard level 26, holy fuck) missions are so well done, especially the former was visually stunning and super intense. Alongside many of the various small details (intel, base etc.) And we got great stuff out of the Dark Zone, after the patch the factions indeed roam the DZ more often, and you can even see NPC fights, there's no surprise people rarely go rogue (accidentally shot someone but got away still). You can really go into detail with your build.

Stormwolf wrote:
Danyutz wrote:
Last night had to be the best session so far, only played for a couple of hours with Bob, but we did a long mission on hard and then some wandering around DZ - fluid gameplay, with some minor fps drops for 1-2s. Enemies sure are harder to kill and hit harder than beta.

Does anyone know how enemy scaling works? I was group leader ( lvl 10, Bob was 20 ), I set the mission on Hard and all the enemies were 20, shouldn't they be at my level, since I started the mission? :Scratch:


They probably scale with the highest level so the mission doesn't become a cakewalk. I'm kind of talking out of my ass thought since i know next to nothing about the game, but it seems logical nonetheless.


It's exactly what is done in the game. Some obviously didn't like that, but in any case the XP gains you get are much higher (probably could get 2-3 levels or more).
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 11:22    Post subject:
Danyutz wrote:


Does anyone know how enemy scaling works? I was group leader ( lvl 10, Bob was 20 ), I set the mission on Hard and all the enemies were 20, shouldn't they be at my level, since I started the mission? :Scratch:


scaling is always done for the highest level player on the team. if you play a mission on hard, and a guy 5+ levels above you joins, just kick him, once you die enemies will reset again. it's best to keep players close to your level, maybe 1-3 levels above you max if you want to be able to contribute and not just wait to get revived.

awesome game, can't stop playing.
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 11:26    Post subject:
I know, Bob being twice my level, i managed to scratch the enemies at most Laughing At least i was flashbanging the mofos all the time ... oh and was able to loot around Rolling Eyes
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 12:03    Post subject:
Aww Yeah


// Stuck at some rope in the DZ after climbing up on it


// After posting this screenshot and switching back ingame, i am suddenly unstuck. grinhurt
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MightyMan




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 14:02    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Aww Yeah


// Stuck at some rope in the DZ after climbing up on it


// After posting this screenshot and switching back ingame, i am suddenly unstuck. grinhurt




It's a pity we can't all be in the sam DZ session, otherwise, in the immortal words of Booker T, Berb, we be commin for you nigga Twisted Evil
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harry_theone




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 14:14    Post subject:
We already had talked about trying to find Bob and killing him Mr. Green #evilmode #noragrets
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 14:27    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
// Stuck at some rope in the DZ after climbing up on it


That was because you're playing alone, not with me. Troll Dad
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Ricky78




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 14:51    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
http://www.gamesrocket.com/download/Tom-Clancys-The-Division.html

Nice price (33,95€). Anyone have bought games there, price is tempting.


They have a weird authorization process for the first order that requires to send a selfie with an ID card, probably because they are located in Germany (like Amazon.de when you buy something 18+), prices change after you log in following your region.
However all went smooth when I bought Batman Arkham Knight PE.


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 14:52    Post subject:
@MightyMan @harry_theone
You evil bastards, no place in your group anymore for me. Mad


@Danyutz
I thought you had a free day today? But instead you are still offline and post pics of parts of your bike man.


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Ricky78




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 15:15    Post subject:
For those interested the soundtrack is available on P2P channels. Wink
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Meridius55




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 15:35    Post subject:
Meridius55 wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:
http://www.gamesrocket.com/download/Tom-Clancys-The-Division.html

Nice price (33,95€). Anyone have bought games there, price is tempting.
wut? I see it listed at 43,95€.

Meh, I'm weak, got the gold edition for 40€. Siege was a pleasant surprise, let's see how this one turns out.
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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 16:16    Post subject:
So, how come everyone stopped crying about the downgrades once it came out? Laughing

No matter to me since I've got no desire to play their always-online pseudo-mmo "but you can play it single player blah blah" game.

I just find it funny how there was such a huge uproar about the downgrade(s) and then it almost completely disappears once it's released.
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Wubbajack




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 16:25    Post subject:
Because people stopped crying and started having fun?
You should try it some time Wink
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 16:25    Post subject:
Besides the artsy depth of field effect used in the initial media it doesn't look too different now although I'm sure there's a lot more under the hood in the engine that might have been scaled back too.
http://www.ag.ru/games/tom-clancys-the-division/screenshots/492329 2013
http://www.ag.ru/games/tom-clancys-the-division/screenshots/511130 2014

And I guess some of the areas are gone too such as the bridges.
http://www.ag.ru/games/tom-clancys-the-division/screenshots/492322

And then there's the depth of field effect which is now only used in cutscenes and when viewing the character stats or inventory.
http://www.ag.ru/games/tom-clancys-the-division/screenshots/479214

EDIT: Oh and yeah, official media usually uses supersampling as well and Ubisoft (Amongst others.) has a tendency to over rely on post-processing touch-ups in their screenshots.
(Since oh somewhere around Assassins Creed 2 or so.)

(Here's a example from Black Flags where someone edited in character reflections in the water and blood slowly pooling out of a dead body and into the water. - http://www.ag.ru/games/assassins-creed-4-black-flag/screenshots/472724 )
(Small bits of color correction and heavy use of depth of field is used pretty often, such as the earlier promo shots from Far Cry Primal. - http://www.ag.ru/games/far-cry-primal/screenshots/540685 )


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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 16:28    Post subject:
Wubbajack wrote:
Because people stopped crying and started having fun?
You should try it some time Wink



Only I'm not crying about the downgrade. I didn't care about it.
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Kaltern




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 16:35    Post subject:
Downgrades suck, but they don't usually have a detrimental effect on the gameplay.

I am still forever bitter about the WatchDogs' downgrade, but the game was reasonably ok.


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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 16:43    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
@Danyutz
I thought you had a free day today? But instead you are still offline and post pics of parts of your bike man.


They didn't let me take it today man, got it monday. Sad
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 16:44    Post subject:
dodger2020 wrote:
So, how come everyone stopped crying about the downgrades once it came out? Laughing

No matter to me since I've got no desire to play their always-online pseudo-mmo "but you can play it single player blah blah" game.

I just find it funny how there was such a huge uproar about the downgrade(s) and then it almost completely disappears once it's released.

haven't seen much complaing in here. which huge uproar you mean? the trolls on the steam forums?
game is nice and much fun especially if you play with real life friends and mumble.
will hit 30 tomorrow i think. then DZ and get best equip ... after that completing achievements and get all the collecting stuff. but after that? i don't think the season pass will offer enough to make it work for me on a long time.
also don't forget about the cheaters which are already in full affect... again.

but like i said it's still an awesome game and i will get as much out of it as i can. got it for free anyway so i cant complain. wouldn't pay more then 30 for it tho. max 1-2 months fun with it.

just like fifa, titanfall and many other games. they are great but only for a limited time, because of missing content, not enough players or cheaters. as long as you know this before buying something, you will have a great time.

maybe witcher 3 and other 10000hours single player games are meant for you. i couldn't play something like this for example... people are different you know.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 17:20    Post subject:
love how the game stays hard later on. lvl 19, roaming around the bottom right corner of the map and I can die if I carelessly run around before checking for patrols. shotgun dudes can demolish you. Surprised


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 18:19    Post subject:
Single player progression is really well done, not too fast (like in Destiny) not too slow, you have to complete most of the secondary missions of a district to be ready for the next one so the game forces you to explore.
It's never easy but also never too difficult, all is very well balanced.
I'm really enjoying this game alone, I'll start play with a group once I'll be lvl. 30 (23 ATM).
Graphic is incredible especially with the combo night + snow storm.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 18:53    Post subject:
im currently lvl13 and played 13hours either solo or with randoms. I gotta say, for what it is (a random loot coop/sp shooter) its really fun. Even with random matchmaking in missions. Havent tried with a group yet since most people i know got it on ps4. It looks great on PC and runs smooth. I did not expect to like it that much.

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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 19:47    Post subject:
Played a bit of the high level DZ with Fubars and Herry.
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Fucking gankers everywhere. FUCK YOU IN THE ASSES.
Ragequitted.


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 20:27    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Played a bit of the high level DZ with Fubars and Herry.
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Fucking gankers everywhere. FUCK YOU IN THE ASSES.
Ragequitted.


You got outganked so you cry now? Reaction
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Philosopheraptor
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 21:38    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:

Philosopheraptor

To mean level or not to mean level? Razz
(Ah I'm tired, this ended up being horrible.)

EDIT:
"She'll struggle a bit initially but once she gains some more experience it'll be a smoother ride." There, that will do.

EDIT: Well these are almost always troll posts, probably some meme thing originally for all I know.
(I'm 12 what's this and all that other stuff, I have no idea what's the popular thing these days.)


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 21:50    Post subject:
Rolling Eyes


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