Valve's VR headset is called the Vive
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darkbytes




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Feb 2016 18:21    Post subject:
Kickstarter for oculus dk1 so my choice is made up ,as am I Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Feb 2016 18:36    Post subject:
you are made up?


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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Feb 2016 19:00    Post subject:
He will be. If you backed the original kickstarter,you get a free Oculus
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Feb 2016 22:34    Post subject:
vr will die just like with kinnect


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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Feb 2016 22:35    Post subject:
it all depends on the games, vr is a must for flightsmims and could amazing for slow fps rpgs, skyrim in vr would be the shit
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Feb 2016 23:05    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
vr will die just like with kinnect


VR might die but it has absolutely nothing to do with Kinect. Different audiences, different applications and so on.


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 02:35    Post subject:
If you pay via paypal, full amount is taken up front. If you pay via credit card, they just put a hold for the full amount then you're charged when it's released.

Tilt brush also comes with it now (c'mon, give us a real game).

Shipping starts April 5th

And there's a limit of one per person. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 12:01    Post subject:
Well, 900€ is more than i am willing to pay for mostly a toy for now.

Hopefully in a year the prices will already drop by a bit and we can see more fleshed out apps and games for the VR devices.


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 12:08    Post subject:
dodger2020 wrote:
If you pay via paypal, full amount is taken up front. If you pay via credit card, they just put a hold for the full amount then you're charged when it's released.


Is it the same with Oculus? Cos i selected creditcard when preordering it and i really want it to get paid right away Sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 13:05    Post subject:
Oculus said "make sure you have money on your card mid march"
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 13:29    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
dodger2020 wrote:
If you pay via paypal, full amount is taken up front. If you pay via credit card, they just put a hold for the full amount then you're charged when it's released.


Is it the same with Oculus? Cos i selected creditcard when preordering it and i really want it to get paid right away Sad



No idea about the Oculus. But with the Vive, if you pay with card it only puts an authorization hold on the money. It makes it unavailable to you but it isn't given to them until they clear the transaction (i.e. when your shit ships). It's basically how they determine you have enough to pay for it but they don't get the money until they send you the goods.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 13:47    Post subject:
Ta to both of you.


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 14:56    Post subject:
Not sure Im gonna get the VIVE tbh. Im gonna go with the Oculus, and if I like the VR experience, I might get the VIVE...
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 17:23    Post subject:
1K EUR!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 17:32    Post subject:
Will get one for my next birthday Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 17:55    Post subject:
His belly man! grinhurt

It looks super cool though. I would probably giggle like a little kid most of the time out of pure joy with this. Very Happy
I'm more excited for this than when the Rift got announced for preorders. Still sad though, that i currently can't really afford to put 900€ on the table for this. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 17:59    Post subject:
I'll wait until they both (the rift and the vive) are released and tested before i buy one.

With that said i'll probably break down next week and preorder one of them Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 18:25    Post subject:
Are there articles, experiences or anything on how games are supposed to keep you within your limited actual world space?


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 19:22    Post subject:
It cost me $799 + $30 shipping (only option was 2-day shipping) + $68.40 tax. Ugh. Oh well.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 19:28    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
Are there articles, experiences or anything on how games are supposed to keep you within your limited actual world space?


There are a LOT of them. Pretty much every article or video about the Vive talks about that, including the one on this page.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 19:49    Post subject:
dodger2020 wrote:
Nui wrote:
Are there articles, experiences or anything on how games are supposed to keep you within your limited actual world space?


There are a LOT of them. Pretty much every article or video about the Vive talks about that, including the one on this page.



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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 20:09    Post subject:
I looked a bit of that video and then skipped to see if any of the demos really deal with that issue and none of them did. Actually valve did with the moving platform stuff, but that only allows for games on rails. Not going to watch it completely.
Now read some articles on the vive and none of them mentioned this. Im starting to doubt the 'almost every article mentions this' statement.

Now finally have better search terms and found some subreddits, where noone seems to know a good general solution and noone was speaking out of experience (except to deny possible solutions).

Just to clarify. Im talking about this room sized vr with a game world that is bigger than that.

And there is this abomination of a solution Laughing
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greenblood




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 20:31    Post subject:
Wouldn't it be possible to just have a combination of artificial locomotion and room scaled freedom?
Like in some skyrim kind of RPG you could move freely within the boundary of your room to fight and dodge enemies but when moving larger distances you would use the trackpad or a button on the controller to move forward.
As far as i know artificial forward locomotion is much less sickness inducing than artificial rotation, so you would do rotations physically and only move forwards/backwards artificially.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 20:42    Post subject:
Yes, that seems to be one solution. The forward locomotion could also be done on horse back. Maybe that helps.
However I wonder how well a fight in Skyrim would work like this. You would be doging your enemies, which seems cool. But you would also avoid walls not present in the game world, which seems jarring and depending on the situation its impossible to combine these two goals.

Then there are teleportations which actually is in that video above as well... imagine skyrim with portals Laughing

Obviously, there is the possibilty of mapping the controller to walking as well. As what the Oculus is intended for. But again, I dont see how you can combine this really well with room vr.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 21:17    Post subject:
959.69 € for ordering in germany
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 21:29    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
959.69 € for ordering in germany


Same for all of Europe.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Feb 2016 23:46    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
Janz wrote:
959.69 € for ordering in germany


Same for all of Europe.


Nope.

972.20 € in France, because reasons Sad

Edit:
Wait ! That is 73.20 € just for shipping
WTF ?


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2016 00:41    Post subject:
Whats funny is that some people could choose between express and standard shipping while the majority could only choose express, even if from the same country. Standard for germany was like 22€ and express 60€.
When I ordered it only showed express.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Mar 2016 02:31    Post subject:
i dont understand the price... it says over 900 bucks, but i picked the NZ region.. is it giving me NZD or USD? it doesn't say anywhere what $ its in?


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