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 Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 17:12 Post subject: Good cpu? |
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I just started to properly overclock my I7, does anyone know if this constitutes a good chip? Note this is running on an EVO 212 hyper air cooler with both push and pull fans.
http://prntscr.com/9zsd0w
I am guessing It looks like it could go higher. It was previously on 1.17v @4.5 and also stable. I am unsure though of how good I7's were/have been of late. Or is this typical of them?
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 17:54 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 18:29 Post subject: |
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Ah if 1.3v is the threshold I see why 1.17 was doing fine, seems it don't need that much voltage change to oc change compared anyhow to what I am used to with other cpu's.
I will keep an eye on it as it is set now and if all is ok will start to lower the voltage in small steps until it stops posting then I should be able to find the right spot for it at least for 4.7ghz. But as you say usually there is not a huge difference with clocking these days and games, all but the bottom end of the fps scale no doubt.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 19:08 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 19:35 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | The 4790K is I think devil's canyon, so I generation before Skylake, it's still keeps up pretty well with voltage to Ghz ratio. Not to be compared with my 2600K.
And when you know it doesn't provide you any more performance for gaming why even bother?
4.7Ghz is at the upper end of the OC spectrum even for a 4790K, why bother?
Keep it at 4.5Ghz with the nice 1.17V. Trust me.
Except of course if you're doing a lot of video encoding (on the CPU, non-CUDA) or such... |
You are correct  and it is nice to have a civil conversation with you lol  |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 19:40 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 19:46 Post subject: |
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M4trix
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 22:49 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | As long as you stay below 1.3V and the temps are fine even under stress, it's ok.
However, mind that higher volts will decrease your cpu lifespan and sometime the extra performance is not worth it.
You have to find the "sweet spot" of performance gain to heat to volts ratio. |
1.3V is nothing, anything below 1.5V is completely fine.
I had mine upto 1.58V for atleast half a year before I realized the mobo vcore reporting was way off, it was only showing 1.5V on CPU-Z but reality was something else.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 23:16 Post subject: |
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1.17v @4.5 for an i7 4790k for all cores at that freq?
and 1.22 @4.7?
that would be a golden chip if I ever heard or one.
i've never heard of one doing that though outside of benchmarking for short periods.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 23:28 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 23:40 Post subject: |
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Sounds unreal voltage for that clock... What you have used as stability benchmark?
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 23:41 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 00:19 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 00:49 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: | 1.17v @4.5 for an i7 4790k for all cores at that freq?
and 1.22 @4.7?
that would be a golden chip if I ever heard or one.
i've never heard of one doing that though outside of benchmarking for short periods. |
well thats what I have on air!
Here it is over elite game while i play. http://prntscr.com/9zyluq |
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 00:58 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Sounds unreal voltage for that clock... What you have used as stability benchmark? |
unreal voltage? how the hell do you come to that conclusion? its done in bios if you know of anything that can test discrepency from bios voltage to true voltage let me know? I am using HW monitor as you see right now, but can use AIDA64 if you wish as well.
Here you go used that tool then as well what else should I use to put your unreal voltage thoughts aside? lol
http://prntscr.com/9zyp54 |
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 01:02 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | | Drowning_witch wrote: | | i've never heard of one doing that though outside of benchmarking for short periods. |
That's why you better meassure it correctly.
Use OpenHardwareMonitor to record the max voltage over a decent period of time running a CPU stress test / benchmark.
However, some mobo's also under-meassure the voltage apparently (like my ASRock).
You have to know every detail of your setup and keep that in mind. |
just tried openmonitor everything runs as HWmonitor pretty much same program but unfortunately openmonitor does not seem to show voltages..... if it does tell me where or how to display it not even options in the app I can find those.
I am guessing here one would need an app that could monitor the actual VCORE voltage? instead of VID? VCORE I am aware can read bogus shit and one needs to use the apps profiles for various cpu's to adjust it correctly but can not find a monitoring tool that does, maybe AIDA64 does something like this I will have to look into it. |
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 01:17 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 01:26 Post subject: |
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| moosenoodles wrote: | | Drowning_witch wrote: | 1.17v @4.5 for an i7 4790k for all cores at that freq?
and 1.22 @4.7?
that would be a golden chip if I ever heard or one.
i've never heard of one doing that though outside of benchmarking for short periods. |
well thats what I have on air!
Here it is over elite game while i play. http://prntscr.com/9zyluq |
oh, i can play many games on unstable voltages for hours on end. and then a random ctd or bsod occurs.
but if you never CTD, never BSOD, and this is true for many different games, then it's stable.
but like I said, if you follow the OC potential of intel CPU's, what you have is pretty much unseen.
so enjoy the chip, it's better than 99.9% of 4790k's.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 01:31 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: | | moosenoodles wrote: | | Drowning_witch wrote: | 1.17v @4.5 for an i7 4790k for all cores at that freq?
and 1.22 @4.7?
that would be a golden chip if I ever heard or one.
i've never heard of one doing that though outside of benchmarking for short periods. |
well thats what I have on air!
Here it is over elite game while i play. http://prntscr.com/9zyluq |
oh, i can play many games on unstable voltages for hours on end. and then a random ctd or bsod occurs.
but if you never CTD, never BSOD, and this is true for many different games, then it's stable.
but like I said, if you follow the OC potential of intel CPU's, what you have is pretty much unseen.
so enjoy the chip, it's better than 99.9% of 4790k's. |
is that sarcasm or you just being jelly I can't tell |
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 01:31 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | File -> Hardware -> Mainboard.
Voltages are shown under mainboard in OHM. |
thanks pax I will now check that out.
edit: it shows notihng under mainboard, it shows it in the OHM but there is no values there just the board name. Using the latest beta from the site. |
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 01:42 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: | | moosenoodles wrote: |
is that sarcasm or you just being jelly I can't tell |
that was a serious post lol. |
Heheh its so hard to tell on the hump  |
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 02:06 Post subject: |
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i'm not like that
I just laid out the facts i'm aware of, so i'm sure we are both on the same page what is stable and what is not, for the sake of the original question.
No emotional charge in the posts.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 02:11 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: | i'm not like that
I just laid out the facts i'm aware of, so i'm sure we are both on the same page what is stable and what is not, for the sake of the original question.
No emotional charge in the posts. |
Absolutley, I have always gone on the basis as well that if all games I run do not crash in weird manners or pc bsod, thank god thats never happened in years now, then I call that stable for me lol. |
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 02:52 Post subject: |
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| scaramonga wrote: | 1.25 is MAX I would go on that chip  , under water |
well ur chip is not like the 4790k ur pretty much stuck at 4.6 right? as 4770 dont often like to go further and are high in volts to get them there.
I was reading some posts on this, people are running 4790k@1.3v and 4.6 clock and cant get no more etc,
"The generally regarded as pretty safe voltage being 1.3V for Haswell-based CPUs" -Linus
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1.3V is not huge, it's getting near the upper end, but not huge. I'm running ~1.3V on my 4690k and my load temps are ~60C with an H100. |
I won't for sure be using water its just not worth the slight difference and wether anyone likes to admit it or not pipes can perish be faulty etc and no way do I want water near electricals.
I would say this cpu I have is a keeper and will test more and lower the voltage a small amount tomorrow and retest to see where the low end voltage sits with 4.7.
Im pretty sure things are good though from past experiences and on air as well with game loading here at 40-47c depending on game that is what a box standard 4.4 turbo cpu 4790k is with stock cooler.
I don't think I can complain with what I have here. |
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