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Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 14:00 Post subject: |
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bushwacka wrote: | http://wololo.net/2016/01/06/ps4-elf-loader-and-other-tools/
fuck linux, maybe it's indeed time to go looking for a 1.76 box |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it quite likely that 1.76 exploit will lead to a 3.11 exploit? As in, make it a shit tonne easier to find one?
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Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 14:34 Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 14:38 Post subject: |
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the 1.76 update was released september 2014, while the next one (2.00) came at the end of cotober 2014. it's not that hard to find bundles that are 14-15 months old. i wouldn't buy one yet since there is no iso loader out yet (and may never come) and as you said, the exploit might lead to another one in the newest fw. no one knows.
best tactic right now imo, considering the rapid pace of development (remember a few months ago, there was fuck all on the ps4 hacking front), would be to do some homework on where to get specific bundles, checking sites like wololo and then quickly pulling the trigger once a loader gets out.
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Posted: Tue, 19th Jan 2016 09:11 Post subject: |
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New exploit from CTurt:
http://cturt.github.io/dlclose-overflow.html
Before you get your hopes up, this too was patched with FW 2.0, so it's more of an alternative to the original hack than an upgrade.
Still, some promising news from his collaborator Luca Todesco, aka qwertyuiop:
Quote: | Sony is fucking retarded. Why would anyone do a kernel-mode dynamic linker? That's literally a fuck ton of attack surface.. |
It seems that there's still ample opportunity for exploits, details of which are slowly surfacing after the initial exploit. Let's hope someone can make this happen...
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Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 07:01 Post subject: |
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Cyclone, just a curious question pal; does the PS4 also have the same 'chain of trust' as the PS3 did? Private keys and stuff?
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Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 11:00 Post subject: |
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Shawn_Hunter wrote: | Cyclone, just a curious question pal; does the PS4 also have the same 'chain of trust' as the PS3 did? Private keys and stuff? |
Every modern "secured" device works like that: a locked bootloader whose signature is verified by hardware-embedded keys, which then loads and verifies the kernel, and so on.
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Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 11:33 Post subject: |
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There are still some bundles available with the 1.76 firmware it seems.
I've just grabbed a destiny bundle that isn't overpriced from a standard bundle. Worse case i have a backup console.
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Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 13:28 Post subject: |
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Grale wrote: | There are still some bundles available with the 1.76 firmware it seems.
I've just grabbed a destiny bundle that isn't overpriced from a standard bundle. Worse case i have a backup console. |
It's not actually hacked with a backup loader though right? Are you just playing the hopeful long game?
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Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 13:57 Post subject: |
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No, no backup loader. The hopeful long wait is pretty correct.
I paid £249 delivered so not overpriced. If a real hack 'loader' does appear, you can be sure the prices will raise to ridiculous levels. Which i might even take advantage of and sell it.
Just taking a punt on it tbh. And as i said at the worst i have a replacement console if/when my current console dies.
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Posted: Sat, 6th Feb 2016 14:21 Post subject: |
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Saw the destiny bundle on Amazon UK for that price... Was a little tempted but investing that much right now doesn't make sense in my mind. That's like 8-9 top titles worth of money!
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Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 10:31 Post subject: |
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I don't care if I need "chip" as long as I can play my "backups" fine,I am not cobra's matketing man or fanboy,just the regular 'enduser'.
So I will gladely pat for that.
"Fuck Denuvo"
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Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 13:03 Post subject: |
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Shawn_Hunter wrote: | Cyclone, just a curious question pal; does the PS4 also have the same 'chain of trust' as the PS3 did? Private keys and stuff? |
I don't know about the PS4 chain of trust but obviously it uses private keys and public keys.
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Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 18:25 Post subject: |
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I am not messing with my PS4 this time, Sony bans hard when they ban... 
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Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 19:45 Post subject: |
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I don't mind as long as I can play pirated stuff
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Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 20:26 Post subject: |
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Fake or not,the PS4 is still very close being hacked on newest FW's
http://wololo.net/ps4-jailbreak-ps4-cfw4dummies/
Quote: | Fail0verflow have stated that many kernel exploits exist on the PS4, and they are “easy to find”.
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Quote: | The Cturt PS4 Kernel exploit and the Fail0verflow Linux on PS4 announcement are the most promising leads for a PS4 Jailbreak at this point. Other hackers have contacted us to let us know that leads of a PS4 Jailbreak for the latest PS4 Firmware 3.11 are being worked on, but nothing has been officially announced yet. |
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Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 21:08 Post subject: |
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But that's just it. Just like the Wii U scene, it's all bullshit rumour, noise and egocentric potential trolls.
Unless something is released, I take it all with a pinch of salt.
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Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 21:54 Post subject: |
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JackQ wrote: | Fake or not,the PS4 is still very close being hacked on newest FW's
http://wololo.net/ps4-jailbreak-ps4-cfw4dummies/
Quote: | Fail0verflow have stated that many kernel exploits exist on the PS4, and they are “easy to find”.
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Quote: | The Cturt PS4 Kernel exploit and the Fail0verflow Linux on PS4 announcement are the most promising leads for a PS4 Jailbreak at this point. Other hackers have contacted us to let us know that leads of a PS4 Jailbreak for the latest PS4 Firmware 3.11 are being worked on, but nothing has been officially announced yet. |
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Posted: Sun, 7th Feb 2016 23:48 Post subject: |
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Horrordee wrote: | But that's just it. Just like the Wii U scene, it's all bullshit rumour, noise and egocentric potential trolls.
Unless something is released, I take it all with a pinch of salt. |
Agreed. It's always "we are really close, it will be soon!" Or it's "We've done it, but we won't release it to the public."
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Horrordee wrote: | But that's just it. Just like the Wii U scene, it's all bullshit rumour, noise and egocentric potential trolls.
Unless something is released, I take it all with a pinch of salt. |
Isn't the WiiU hacked and even emulated already?
Even with some fake news(like Cobra) things still happening,and will happen,I doubt we will wait another year for PS4's hacks.
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Posted: Mon, 8th Feb 2016 11:51 Post subject: |
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You really need to share that psychic address of yours.
Need that crystal ball model.
Yes obviously one day ps4 will be hacked... In one year ? No idea.
Nobody knows unless yourself you are involved in some exploit and tend to release it this year ?
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Posted: Mon, 8th Feb 2016 12:06 Post subject: |
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I don't need "Crystal ball" for the obvious,there are reailble,trusted hackers that fucking saying the PS4 has expliots and hackable (which I posted 8 pages ago)
Failoverflew,while seems to be hated by some,confrimed years a go the mltdr keys expliot whch was real and released by Gohot.
I am as "Optimistic" as wololo,as he himself even impliyng that hack could come this year.
The PS4 already been hacked in fact,just limited hackes/explliots released for public.
The Cobra thing is probably fake,but I didn't even posted the news,NFOAC did,which is further proof it's not really about the newes,it's about who is posting it.
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JackQ wrote: | I don't need "Crystal ball" for the obvious,there are reailble,trusted hackers that fucking saying the PS4 has expliots and hackable (which I posted 8 pages ago)
Failoverflew,while seems to be hated by some,confrimed years a go the mltdr keys expliot whch was real and released by Gohot.
I am as "Optimistic" as wololo,as he himself even impliybng that hack could come this year.
The PS4 already been hacked in fact,just limited hackes/explliots released for public.
The Cobra thing is probably fake,but I didn't even posted the news,NFOAC did,which is further proof it's not really about the newes,it's about who is posting it. |
Not really about the person, I posted right after him a news that said it was fake.
Sadly you think it's about the person because you tend to post more about this than NFOAC.
I can understand that you are optimistic and what not, but do you really need to clutter this thread every time you wake up and want to be optimistic ?
We all understood you were optimistic ever since PSJailbreak got released on PS3.
No need to share your optimism every now and then.
We understand you think that the PS4 will be one day hacked, and we are happy for you.
No need to remember us your optimism once in a while, we get it man.
Let's wait till the PS4 is hacked, then you can post about it and people will be finally happy about your posts.
Until then, you are irritating most members of this forum, and not only in this section, but even in the PC section (which I can't even manage to do, to be hated by both sections of the forum).
So yeah, we also get it, you think that Denuvo will be hacked one day.
Whenever PS5 is released, you will also post about your optimism how PS5 can be hacked.
We 100% get it, everything is hackable one day, and we only need patience
PS : except for boundle, steam is uncrackable and we are all fucking then !
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cyclonefr wrote: | JackQ wrote: | I don't need "Crystal ball" for the obvious,there are reailble,trusted hackers that fucking saying the PS4 has expliots and hackable (which I posted 8 pages ago)
Failoverflew,while seems to be hated by some,confrimed years a go the mltdr keys expliot whch was real and released by Gohot.
I am as "Optimistic" as wololo,as he himself even impliybng that hack could come this year.
The PS4 already been hacked in fact,just limited hackes/explliots released for public.
The Cobra thing is probably fake,but I didn't even posted the news,NFOAC did,which is further proof it's not really about the newes,it's about who is posting it. |
Not really about the person, I posted right after him a news that said it was fake.
Sadly you think it's about the person because you tend to post more about this than NFOAC.
I can understand that you are optimistic and what not, but do you really need to clutter this thread every time you wake up and want to be optimistic ?
We all understood you were optimistic ever since PSJailbreak got released on PS3.
No need to share your optimism every now and then.
We understand you think that the PS4 will be one day hacked, and we are happy for you.
No need to remember us your optimism once in a while, we get it man.
Let's wait till the PS4 is hacked, then you can post about it and people will be finally happy about your posts.
Until then, you are irritating most members of this forum, and not only in this section, but even in the PC section (which I can't even manage to do, to be hated by both sections of the forum).
So yeah, we also get it, you think that Denuvo will be hacked one day.
Whenever PS5 is released, you will also post about your optimism how PS5 can be hacked.
We 100% get it, everything is hackable one day, and we only need patience
PS : except for boundle, steam is uncrackable and we are all fucking then ! |
What kind of drugs are you taking?
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