[PS2] Rogue Galaxy
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 22:41    Post subject: [PS2] Rogue Galaxy
http://www.level5.co.jp/products/new/roguegalaxy/index.html
http://ps2.ign.com/objects/729/729765.html


The JAP version of this masterpiece was released today.
Rogue_Galaxy_JAP_PS2DVD-GANT
And of course have I played it and WOW, what a game.
This game really puts every other rpg developer to shame, and it proves once again how superior Level-5 is when it comes to rpg's. I just played for a couple of minutes, but I played enough (played untill I got owned by two giant stone dudes :/) to get the feel of the game and the battle system, and I'm totally sold. The battle system might be the best battle system I have EVER experienced! It's pure action based, and I mean PURE, you can even jump around in battles. It's fast, it's gorgeous and it's incredible entertaining.
It has awesome looking fmv's. The graphics are incredible, towns are great, the character art is amazing, to put it simple, everything is amazing. Smile
I hope the US date isn't too far off because I just cant wait for this game to come out. I know the european date is december 2006, and US dates are normally much earlier, so maybe summer 2006?






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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 22:45    Post subject:
hmm i m tempted to get the jap version but then i always end up finishing the games without understanding a word, which spoils a damn lot.
anyway its great that it has such a battle system, i was getting tired of the old school nippon rpg battle system. from now on its all about action for me.


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Reg67




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 22:51    Post subject:
A Japanese RPG and no ridiculous blue spiky hair.. or Huge eyes in sight!! Hurrah Laughing

Count me in.. this looks great

Is the Jap vers playable?
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 22:58    Post subject:
Well, in my opinion, no.
You miss so much if you dont understand a single word. The reason why I died for example was because I didn't understand what the tutorial windows told me, I couldn't even hurt the two stone dudes. And the menu and skills etc are really hard to understand if you dont know japanese.
Monsters appear randomly btw, they aren't visible on the screen.
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 23:11    Post subject:
bleh random battles are what puts me off in rpgs nowadays, well i ll give it a try, seems good to say the least.


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 01:40    Post subject:
those screenshots look awesome !
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 02:56    Post subject:
If it's out in a year no-ones going to give a shit about it. What a mistake by the developers.


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 04:17    Post subject:
true.dat, the ps3 is expected to arrive in the us in a year, atleast for the first few months all ps2 releases will be overshadowed. btw who ever said the ps3 wont feature a hdd?
http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/21/technology/playstation_fortune_112805/
according to this article it will but its unclear whether it ll be built-in or optional.


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 11:43    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
If it's out in a year no-ones going to give a shit about it. What a mistake by the developers.


Yeah right.
When it comes to extraodinary rpg games, people give a shit, trust me.
Level-5 have a reputation, they have a huge fan base, and there wont be any huge rpg titles on the ps3 in late 2006. So if people want rpg games, they will get this and not replace it with some ps3 with some action/fps/racing game.
Awesome titles like this one is not something you see every day, it's not just your oridinary action game which you get 5 every month.
So there's no way that a rpg gamer would give up such a title for some new console with some average games, no way in hell. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 16:38    Post subject:
Yeah, they'll just play all the superior RPG's due out next year. Laughing

This will seem average in comparison. They got it out to the largest consumer base for this kind of RPG (Japan) and obviously they're taking their time with the western releases. The sales will be mediocre at best.


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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 16:54    Post subject:
Since you seem to know so much about this genre, what kind of superior console-rpg's? As far as I know there are no other console-rpg's being released in 2006 on the xbox360 or the ps3 that is even remotley close to this one, so please share some light.
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 19:03    Post subject:
ff12, shadow hearts 3 and dark cloud 3 are all very popular.


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 19:41    Post subject:
This game will be released this month in US just wait a few days/weeks
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Dec 2005 14:32    Post subject:
To which game is the fighting system comparable? Dark Cloud 2 or Kingdom Hearts? I really hope its like Kingdom Hearts. Dark Cloud 2 felt incredibly slow, but Rogue Galaxy having the same developer, it could be like that one. So what is the real-time system like?


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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Dec 2005 14:58    Post subject:
Nono, it's WAY faster than dark cloud2, so dont worry. It's faster than kingdom hearts too. Smile
It's basicly the fastest battle system to date. So if you like fast battle system, you will love this game.

For example. You can jump and pump the action button in mid air and hit enemies, abit like devil may cry. Razz
It's really cool.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Dec 2005 15:05    Post subject:
KrutojPoc wrote:
This game will be released this month in US just wait a few days/weeks


.. summer 2006 man, you think they'll translate it in 3 weeks?
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Dec 2005 20:43    Post subject:
Newien1 wrote:
KrutojPoc wrote:
This game will be released this month in US just wait a few days/weeks


.. summer 2006 man, you think they'll translate it in 3 weeks?


Hehe I wish!! No RPG's to play atm Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Dec 2005 21:50    Post subject:
Newien1 wrote:
KrutojPoc wrote:
This game will be released this month in US just wait a few days/weeks


.. summer 2006 man, you think they'll translate it in 3 weeks?


Summer 2006 if you're really lucky.


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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2005 13:19    Post subject:
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/674/674423p1.html

A new preview.
This game will be the bomb. Best thing, the world is SEAMLESS! No loading times whatsoever, how fricking awesome is that? Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2005 14:19    Post subject:
Man, if the battles weren't random this would be awesome, but I feel that the RPG genre has developed beyond that now.

People need to be able to see what lies ahead and be able to prepare, not think "oh shit, I hope I don't have another random encounter before this boss, I saved all my healing potions for him" or "I can survive another attack by a plant fiend, but if I randomly encounter a uber plantzor i'm screwed, oh there we go, i'm fucked, how fun". So they keep reloading until they get the enemy configuration they want. Thats not the way a game should be played.


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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2005 14:46    Post subject:
I love random battles and truly hate visible enemies. Seeing huge creatures running around in a town for example would just look ridiculus.
I can see why some gamers would want visible enemies, but for other reasons than what you just wrote, and here's why.

If you are a console-rpg gamer AnimalMother, you know how to play, and therefor the problems you described wont be a problem. I have NEVER experienced what you just wrote, not 1 single time. Rpg's are all about leveling up to handle new areas, and to hunt for money to stack up on herbs and various items, this is common sense for ANY console-rpg, so if you come unprepared it's your own fault. It has been like this since the first console-rpg, so as I said, it's just common sense for any console-rpg gamer.

Although, if you are new to the genre, then I guess peple would play the way you just described, rush in unprepared. But anyone with the slightest experience will not.
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2005 15:35    Post subject:
i ve been a console-rpg gamer for a long time, have played everything available on psx and loved every second.
but with time i really grew tired of the random battle concept, and with more time even of the whole round-based fighting as well.
i really cant stand random battles anymore, last time i played ff7 and ff8 i was surprised at how deeply annoyed i felt. i felt like the game was keeping me from playing it, and i didnt feel like that back in the times when these games actually came out.
well rogue galaxy seems to be a really great game, action-based system and the random battles here arent too bad either, no new battle screen appears, you keep fighting on the field and you can easily run away - thats not bad i d say.
anyway, if youre new to the genre you can be annoyed by the system easily, but also if you ve been there for too long. i seriously cant see myself playing through dragon quest 8 anymore, no matter how much i wanted to. i guess i just grew out of rpgs and its good in a way, they use up too much time.


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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2005 16:05    Post subject:
i also hate random battles hated it in every FF game that i got... thank god they did later on few items that will remove the random battles like in FFX when you had to buy this item i forgot its name and that totaly removed the random battles... good thing that FF XII wont have random battles(got the demo) i also gave up on dragon quest 8 the random battles got silly for me...

i hope rougue galaxy comes out soon the way pallebrun tells about it makes me drool..


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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2005 21:44    Post subject:
i just took a look at several trailers at GT and damn, i m sold.
i m sure this game will crush ff12 next year easily, i wasnt eager to play an rpg this much
since xenosaga ep 1 was announced, and that means alot.
i recommend these trailers:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7097&pl=game&type=wmv
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=8570&pl=game&type=wmv


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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2005 22:38    Post subject:
Smile
FF12 wont even be in the same league is my guess. And I'm even one of those that thought the FF12 demo was quite slick, not as good as ff6-9, but still quite good, and yet I think this will be way better.
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2005 23:10    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
Smile
FF12 wont even be in the same league is my guess. And I'm even one of those that thought the FF12 demo was quite slick, not as good as ff6-9, but still quite good, and yet I think this will be way better.


SquareEnix can shit on the FF12 dvds and it will still be better than any Level5 game. Yes, the Rogue Galaxy screens looks amazing, but from my rpg-gaming experiences Square always delivers top quality storylines and amazing gameplay game after game. But to be honest, Im pretty sick with the fact that no other game serie can compare with the FF series.

I hope to god RG will prove me wrong tho.
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2005 23:19    Post subject:
lol man where have you been this whole console generation?
square never released a good game on ps2, most of em have been total crap,
i ve lost my faith in the company looong ago, so i dont have any really high hopes in ff12, but i do expect alot from rogue galaxy.


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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2005 23:21    Post subject:
D_A_Kuja wrote:
lol man where have you been this whole console generation?
square never released a good game on ps2, most of em have been total crap,
i ve lost my faith in the company looong ago, so i dont have any really high hopes in ff12, but i do expect alot from rogue galaxy.


And where do you place Radiata Stories, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy X and Dragon Quest VIII?
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2005 23:28    Post subject:
Haha, are you serious?
I mean, you cant be serious with what you just wrote?!?!

The final fantasy series died completley after part9. Part 10 and 10-2 sucked beyond compare. And their latest title, Romancing Saga, was quite shitty too.
Square-Enix died as the top rpg developer many years ago. Many rpg developer own them these days. I used to be their biggest fan, but I took my "fanboyism" aside and saw how shitty they had become.
I'm sure you will open your eyes some day too and see what I saw. Smile


Edit: Dragon Quest8 was not developed by SquareEnix, it was developed by Level5. Razz
Radiata stores was a good game, but neither that was developed by SquareEnix, it was developed by Tri-Ace, the makers of star-ocean. Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2005 23:30    Post subject:
radiata stories and ffx were mediocre, king hearts wasnt bad and dragon quest 8 is developed by level 5, company that made rogue galaxy as well.


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