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I think even just having the option to move around adds something. How much use it's gonna get depends on the content, but it certainly gives you more possibilities.
I could think of it as Ouclus but with something extra, and having more is certainly not a bad thing.
Of course, extra comes with extra cost, so that is another factor.
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vurt
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 17:09 Post subject: |
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| MinderMast wrote: | I think even just having the option to move around adds something. How much use it's gonna get depends on the content, but it certainly gives you more possibilities.
I could think of it as Ouclus but with something extra, and having more is certainly not a bad thing.
Of course, extra comes with extra cost, so that is another factor. |
They did say that the screendoor effect was worse though.. what's the word on price for the Vive?
Another thing with the movement with Vive, does it integrate seamless with current controlls (i have a hard time thinking it does). if there's extra development for that part its hard to speculate how many games will use it, perhaps only Valve's own games. Another factor, will the new valve VR games even be compatible with Rift, might be bad idea (from a business standpoint) if they want to push their own unit. I'd hate if Valve did something absolutely spectacular and there isnt support for the Rift, and vice versa.
I hope these companies understands that its important to not compete against each others to a degree that it will hurt VR as a whole. We need a number of really great games for these units, if its ever going to succeed.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 17:36 Post subject: |
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I imagine any good experience with movement would need to be designed for Vive specifically. I guess you could "map" some basic stuff, but that would be quite limiting.
As for closs-platform support, I could see it both ways. On one hand, all parties would be interested in that given the size of the market - more content for everybody means it's easier to sell units. More units means more motivation to create content. A common VR framework with certain vendor specific features could go a long way towards getting things going.
On the other hand, if you want to capture the market, now would be the time to do it and exclusive content would certainly help. With differences in features, your own exclusive APIs might be a more realistic solution as well.
Using analogies, I guess we would either be looking at an Xbox vs PlayStation situation or an AMD vs Nvidia one 
So yeah, hard to tell which way it's gonna go. So far Valve seemed interested in keeping things open with their hardware, but they are not alone in this one.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 18:41 Post subject: |
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Vive looks much better now. Wonder about price. You guys know what can make vive absolute winner? Halflife 3 with HTC Vive preorders. That would kill every single Oculus.
Future of gaming by Bioware:
"WHEN YOU PRESS A BUTTON, SOMETHING AWESOME HAS TO HAPPEN."
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 18:44 Post subject: |
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^That crossed my mind earlier.
"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.
Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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vurt
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 18:57 Post subject: |
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| sabathius___ wrote: | | Vive looks much better now. Wonder about price. You guys know what can make vive absolute winner? Halflife 3 with HTC Vive preorders. That would kill every single Oculus. |
Yeah, and if they choose to compete like that (no cross-platform) it will also kill VR.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 19:09 Post subject: |
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about vive did they make any statement involving the now relased price of Oculus?are they expecting to have the same price ?
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 19:12 Post subject: |
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No. But you can expect an even higher price for the Vive. Though it seems to offer the more complete package.
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sanchin
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 20:31 Post subject: |
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About the cables - you can always strap the PC and UPS to your back for a drone-flight-long experience ;D
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 22:09 Post subject: |
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An investment?
Aren't these things supposed to get obsolete in less than 2 years? With the VR scene "dynamically evolving" and shit?
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 23:46 Post subject: |
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So Logitech's only improvement are, besides of home keyboards.. An updated Proteus G502 with customizable RGB?...Nah, i'll keep mine, thanks
Wish there was a list with eeeevery single GAMING peripheral and hardware .. Everything i've seen is VR stuff and ASUS ROG stuff..
ASUS X570 TUF GAMING PLUS, 32GB DDR4@2666 ,RYZEN 5800X3D (NO OC),GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Super GAMING OC, Western Digital Blue 4TB 5400RPM + SAMSUNG 860 EVO 500+1TB GB SSDs , OEM SATA DVD 22xNoctua NH-D15 Chromax Black, BenQ XL2420T Case: Be Quiet! DARK BASE PRO 901. PSU CORSAIR RM1200 SHIFT
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2016 00:26 Post subject: |
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vurt
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2016 00:32 Post subject: |
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Wouldnt surprise me if Vive + HL3 will be announced in February. Then when asked for Rift support they're gonna be very vague about it = win.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2016 02:19 Post subject: |
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Oh crap, I ordered twice apparently  And the first one is a March delivery... fuck Don't think I can afford that somehow!
Playing Valheim every weekday at 10pm GMT - twitch.tv/kaltern
Follow me on Twitter if you feel like it... @kaltern
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2016 02:55 Post subject: |
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2016 10:11 Post subject: |
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It was due to their ordering system screwing up - obviously I'll be cancelling it. Just a shame, maybe I should sell my preorder on ebay
Playing Valheim every weekday at 10pm GMT - twitch.tv/kaltern
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2016 19:03 Post subject: |
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DK1 backer, can't beleive getting a free unit and first to ship.
Really pleased.
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2016 19:45 Post subject: |
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Playing Valheim every weekday at 10pm GMT - twitch.tv/kaltern
Follow me on Twitter if you feel like it... @kaltern
My system: Ryzen 7 3700x|Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super Windforce OC|Vengeance 3000Mz 16Gb RAM|2x 500Gb Samsung EVO 970 M.2 SSD |SanDisk SSD PLUS 240 GB + OCZ Vertex 2 60Gb SSD|EVA Supernova 650W PSU|Logitech G27 Wheel|Logitech G19 Gaming Pad|SteelSeries Arctis 7|Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Mouse + Logitech MX Master Mouse|Razer Blackwidow Chroma X Keyboard|Oculus Quest 2 + Link|Pixio PX7 Prime 165hz HDR & 1x Samsung 24FG70FQUEN 144Hz curved monitor
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2016 20:55 Post subject: |
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| OrignalSpaceJockey wrote: | | Kaltern wrote: | | It was due to their ordering system screwing up - obviously I'll be cancelling it. Just a shame, maybe I should sell my preorder on ebay |
Why not?  |
I don't have a useable ebay account due to them shafting me out of 300 quid (I refused to pay them after a seller dispute).
Playing Valheim every weekday at 10pm GMT - twitch.tv/kaltern
Follow me on Twitter if you feel like it... @kaltern
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