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Kater Mikesch




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 18:51    Post subject:
Bah, what to do now? I convinced myself some time ago that the Vive will be the superior product, yet I really long for VR... my few weeks long experience with the DK2 was exciting, despite the technical flaws. Guess I will pre-order the Rift, which leaves the option of selling it, should the Vive be on the horizon by then... maybe there is some money to be made. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 19:13    Post subject:
Kater Mikesch wrote:
Bah, what to do now? I convinced myself some time ago that the Vive will be the superior product, yet I really long for VR... my few weeks long experience with the DK2 was exciting, despite the technical flaws. Guess I will pre-order the Rift, which leaves the option of selling it, should the Vive be on the horizon by then... maybe there is some money to be made. Very Happy


hive will be the better one, wait for it. they are scared because of hive, that is why they rush it on the market now and also package it with some games so people buy it now instead of waiting for the better product. don't buy it and wait. just a few more months.
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bloodian




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 19:18    Post subject:
I really want this to work, but I don't think it will Sad

The only way that devs will be interested to support VR is if they can make money. They can make money if casual/mass/majority gamers have VR. Casual gamers won't have VR because their computers won't run VR Sad

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-30/few-computers-are-powerful-enough-to-support-virtual-reality

Plus, the mass gamers are fucking noobs... Are they going to care enough to spend thousands of dollars to actually use their muscles when playing:

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/xbox-association-1000003/why-do-gamers-hate-kinect-27509227/

The only salvation might be... PewDiePie... If those lame YouTubers that all the millions of idiots are following will promote VR there's a high chance it'll work.
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red_avatar




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 19:38    Post subject:
I think it will mostly be an add-on feature and only the odd game will be designed around VR. I always said that this wouldn't be mass-market - why would it be? The games it works best on, are games that would typically get a console co-release and since consoles don't have VR glasses, this makes it a very niche product.
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OrignalSpaceJockey




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 19:44    Post subject:
Insta-pre-order!!!!!
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bxrdj




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 20:05    Post subject:
OrignalSpaceJockey wrote:
Insta-pre-order!!!!!


Same here ... also cracking up about all the retarded (sorry) comments here from people that probably never tried Rift in the first place ... revolution is finally here Smile


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Lopin18




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 20:23    Post subject:
Im seriously thinking of preordering it. Oh god what to do Embarassed

Edit: Updated budget. NOPE lol
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 20:31    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
Kater Mikesch wrote:
Bah, what to do now? I convinced myself some time ago that the Vive will be the superior product, yet I really long for VR... my few weeks long experience with the DK2 was exciting, despite the technical flaws. Guess I will pre-order the Rift, which leaves the option of selling it, should the Vive be on the horizon by then... maybe there is some money to be made. Very Happy


hive will be the better one, wait for it. they are scared because of hive, that is why they rush it on the market now and also package it with some games so people buy it now instead of waiting for the better product. don't buy it and wait. just a few more months.

Any info yet on the prices for the Rift and Hive? And when will the Hive get released ~?


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 20:33    Post subject:
Pre ordering 2 instantly .. for profit Very Happy

DK2 was impressive, and i have a decent setup now.

1 to sell 1 to keep.


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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 20:34    Post subject:
I mean.... I know it's not going to be so much better than dk2. There is no way. And I am done with vr for some time now... at least I am trying to convince myself


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Vryder




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 23:44    Post subject:
Expect the price to be around $400-500. I believe it was stated by Palmer that the consumer version will be more expensive than the DK2 ($350).
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Kaltern




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 00:36    Post subject:
Why is everyone seemingly against VR? I don't understand the negativity, or is is just we're so used to failure or poor end results?

And don't forget Morpheus is coming out on PS4, so that's a console covered. Expect XBOX to have something - I wouldn't be too surprised to find the Rift could be compatible.

It is going to be epic, VR is not going to be just a fad. I firmly belive it will be as popular as the Walkman was. For those with PC's I mean. It's too big a deal to be a fad like 3DTV was.


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 00:38    Post subject:
Hmm, I have no idea which one to get Oculus Rift or HTC Vive...


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 00:47    Post subject:
Both
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 00:49    Post subject:
Kaltern wrote:
Why is everyone seemingly against VR? I don't understand the negativity, or is is just we're so used to failure or poor end results?

And don't forget Morpheus is coming out on PS4, so that's a console covered. Expect XBOX to have something - I wouldn't be too surprised to find the Rift could be compatible.

It is going to be epic, VR is not going to be just a fad. I firmly belive it will be as popular as the Walkman was. For those with PC's I mean. It's too big a deal to be a fad like 3DTV was.

WEll I had both dk1 and dk2... loved it but it got worse and its barely usable beyond gimmick thingy. It fogs up, cable is annoying, have huge price and requires enormously good rig.
It is amazing what it does but the horseblinds aspect of the vision and sweetspot in optics just ruins it. And not to mention screendoor effect but who knows how vive or cv1 handle that.

I belive it's the legitimate future but maybe with cv3 or 4. In 5 years... because now it wont take off. Its too expensive for how many drawbacks it have. Maybe some good games will overcome this.

I was one of the first who got dk1 and dk2.... and nobody I know in person had one. Still, the best experience was virtual cinema and doom3 on dk1 and half-life 2 on dk2 for me.

Once it's wireless, with higher fov, better resolution and easier to put on/center for sweet spot + not fogging up... then I am back in.


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 00:49    Post subject:
Well, I', already going to get PSVR so getting Rift & Vive would be too much. Razz


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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 00:51    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
Well, I', already going to get PSVR so getting Rift & Vive would be too much. Razz

psvr will be underpowered and won't have many fantastic apps for free but still sounds like better overall package with least hassle


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 01:07    Post subject:
To me VR-devices for games are just a very expensive toy, for which i would not pay more than 300€.

As i personally don't see much use for it in most "mainstream" games, even if they officially supported it. Best example are first person shooters. Sure it looks awesome, running around in the game world. But how good are controls and especially the aiming really?
I watched some video of one fucker playing Fallout 4 that way. It looked sad.

Also it seems to early to buy a device just now. There are several different projects currently going on. And i bet, in the near future more competion will rise - resulting in better and probably cheaper devices.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 01:13    Post subject:
VR isn't going to make sense unless you physically try it.


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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 01:15    Post subject:
Its not a toy. Just a thing to makes monitors obsolete... In many many years. Now its kinda crappy


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 01:23    Post subject:
Sadly i had no chance yet to try one of those devices myself. Only watched videos of others.

And i specifically said "VR-devices for games" are toys IMO.
VR in the medical or car industry are no toys, and can really help the people with their work.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 01:30    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
To me VR-devices for games are just a very expensive toy, for which i would not pay more than 300€.

As i personally don't see much use for it in most "mainstream" games, even if they officially supported it. Best example are first person shooters. Sure it looks awesome, running around in the game world. But how good are controls and especially the aiming really?
I watched some video of one fucker playing Fallout 4 that way. It looked sad.

Also it seems to early to buy a device just now. There are several different projects currently going on. And i bet, in the near future more competion will rise - resulting in better and probably cheaper devices.


Aiming is 100x times better... you should try for example HL2 (which has proper support).

You aim with the mouse (your hand) and you look with your head, can't get more natural.. Going back to the locked look/aim standard is very hard and feels robotic and extremely unnatural. There's also TrackIR, but in 3D the whole looking around part is just so much better, in 3D you can move your head and eyes and not loose focus.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 02:16    Post subject:
I completely missed, that you can use the mouse too for aiming. grinhurt
Should have watched some more recent videos. As in the last ones i watched (or the wrong videos) i can't remember people using the mouse in addition for aiming.

Well, this shit just got more awesome now!


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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 02:17    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Sadly i had no chance yet to try one of those devices myself. Only watched videos of others.

And i specifically said "VR-devices for games" are toys IMO.
VR in the medical or car industry are no toys, and can really help the people with their work.


i thought the same way until i tried the rift at the gamescom, now i am a believer.
its one of those things that have to be felt and experienced, its way way more than a shitty gimmick like 3d tv.
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vindicator




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 07:09    Post subject:
its fantastic. I can be in a spaceship in elite dangerous and just chill in an orbis stations rings with the sun on my cockpit. Super relaxing in that respect.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 07:37    Post subject:
VR is very nice but once you see the pixels on the panel, all immersion is lost, but still way more cooler than standard 3D shit.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 09:16    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Anyone know how many hours from now until it'll be available?


You mean available to preorder. Says on the site.


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 11:44    Post subject:
Time to let the dust settle first, with vive etc and others around it would be best to see if the whole thing kicks off and if it does then in 12mnths this stuff will drop in price and one will be able to get a better view on which gear to buy.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 11:46    Post subject:
Im gonna buy Vive and Oculus...the problem is, I cant afford to preorder one tomorrow Razz So, wait for Vive and get Oculus laters or preorder Oculus once Ive got cash on my account? Razz


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