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DimasL
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| Frant wrote: | | It may be a problem with one of the GDDR5-chips which isn't apparent until the card actually address/use bad RAM. |
If is something like that, is there any fix?
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 14:31 Post subject: |
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So im thinking of picking up a 970 (not sure yet what brand , msi twin seems good) is it worth it atm (for only 1080p) or should i just wait for pascal? i hear they might need a new motherboard socket?..
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Stige
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Jan 2016 14:32 Post subject: |
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Why would they lol
Dumb rumors are dumb. Plz.
And buy a real GPU instead of that 3.5GB crap.
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Stige
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Frant
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 11:48 Post subject: |
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| DimasL wrote: | | Frant wrote: | | It may be a problem with one of the GDDR5-chips which isn't apparent until the card actually address/use bad RAM. |
If is something like that, is there any fix? |
Nope. If one of the twelve RAM-chips are bad there's nothing you can do about it. I know there are testing programs out and about on the internet that test the RAM on graphic cards so use google and search for tools like that. There may be something like that in Guru3d's file-archive.
If a chip is bad the card is a goner. :/
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AMD Demonstrates Revolutionary 14nm FinFET Polaris GPU Architecture
| Quote: | LAS VEGAS, NV -- 01/04/16 -- CES 2016 -- AMD provided customers with a glimpse of its upcoming 2016 Polaris GPU architecture, highlighting a wide range of significant architectural improvements including HDR monitor support, and industry-leading performance-per-watt. AMD expects shipments of Polaris architecture-based GPUs to begin in mid-2016.
AMD's Polaris architecture-based 14nm FinFET GPUs deliver a remarkable generational jump in power efficiency. Polaris-based GPUs are designed for fluid frame rates in graphics, gaming, VR and multimedia applications running on compelling small form-factor thin and light computer designs.
The Polaris architecture features AMD's 4th generation Graphics Core Next (GCN) architecture, a next-generation display engine with support for HDMI® 2.0a and DisplayPort 1.3, and next-generation multimedia features including 4K h.265 encoding and decoding.
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Source : http://ir.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2125821
Powerpoint presentation
| Quote: | Polaris as such doesn’t just describe AMD’s 4th generation GCN architecture, but a broad collection of new visual computing IP. For AMD’s 2016 graphics products the company updated all aspects of its graphics IP. Including the addition of support for DisplayPort 1.3 and HDMI 2.0a in addition to h.265 decode at up to 4K and encode at 4K and 60 FPS.
When it comes to the GCN ( Graphics Core Next ) engine itself, AMD outlined a number of fundamental features that define the architecture and they include :
– Primitive Discard Accelerator
– Hardware Scheduler
– Instruction Pre-Fetch
– Improved Shader Efficiency
– Memory Compression
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To put all of the architectural and FinFET related power efficiency improvements into perspective AMD did a little demonstrated with an actual Polaris graphics chip. The demo included two identical systems, one with a Polaris video card installed and the other had a Maxwell Nvidia GTX 950 graphics card. Although the company did not disclose any details about how many compute units or transistors this Polaris GPU had, AMD did show us the actual chip that was running the demo and it looked absolutely tiny.
With the two identical systems running Star Wars Battlefront, a reading of the active power usage of each system was recorded via a power meter. The Polaris equipped system recorded an average of 86W, while the Maxwell based GTX 950 machine recorded an average of 150W in the actual demonstration that saw, and 140W in AMD’s labs. This amounts to a delta of 53W if we go by the lower recorded average power of 140W and a 63W delta if we go by the reading the we saw during the demo.
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Source : http://wccftech.com/amd-polaris/
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 20:24 Post subject: |
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For the sake of a more competive GPU market i really hope AMD will release some good cards. And hopefully not only some "high end" overpriced shit at release.
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proekaan
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 21:56 Post subject: |
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If I remember reading right(this was some time ago), NV and AMD will use different kind of 14nm technology and the one NV uses was more efficient in terms of performance,but AMD's one was more power efficient.
I'm no good at technical stuff,so it remains to be seen what will happen.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Jan 2016 23:18 Post subject: |
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| proekaan wrote: | | If I remember reading right(this was some time ago), NV and AMD will use different kind of 14nm technology and the one NV uses was more efficient in terms of performance,but AMD's one was more power efficient. |
No, you're talking about the difference between the available processes on TSMC 16nm FinFET and Samsung + GlobalFoundies 14nm FinFET. Do note that the 16 and 14 are misleading, as they're not 16 and 14; they're marketing names. These things are probably closer to 18-20 in reality. Samsung's is ever so slightly smaller than TSMC's, but both lose to Intel massively. Intel's 14nm is truly 14nm.
At the moment, rumours have it that Samsung's processes are focused on low power (which makes sense, considering they bake Apple's and their own SoCs too  ). We know Samsung + GF have these processes ready, what we don't know is whether they have a high performance process that will compete with TSMC too. What AMD demoed now came from Samsung + GF and was a low-end chip (hence why they pitched it against a GTX 950).
However, it is also very likely that AMD will be dual-sourcing. First rumoured almost 3 years ago, they will likely keep using TSMC for the high-end parts and do the APUs and lower end GPUs at Samsung + GF. These rumours have stuck around for a very long time, they're almost certain to be correct.
Also, there's no such thing as "more efficient in terms of performance". It's either more efficient (more performance per Watt) or it simply performs better at the cost of efficiency  |
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Stige
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Since you seem to have some experience with custom loops i want to ask how loud are the custom pumps and are they variable speed? If so do they have some software to control them? If you have any experience with AIO-s are they louder than that? I have kraken x61 and on minimum settings that thing is dead silent.
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Stige
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jan 2016 14:27 Post subject: |
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| MisterBear wrote: | | Since you seem to have some experience with custom loops i want to ask how loud are the custom pumps and are they variable speed? If so do they have some software to control them? If you have any experience with AIO-s are they louder than that? I have kraken x61 and on minimum settings that thing is dead silent. |
I got this one myself http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13692/ex-pmp-142/
I don't think it makes any noise at all, my GT AP-15s are rated at 26dB so I can't hear the pump over the rest of the system.
I think the pump is like inaudible really. As long as you don't directly attach it to the case so it doesn't resonate. I got some paddings between the pump and the case so I can't hear any of it.
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I got 2 MCP35x pumps, and they get noisy at full speed.
Might be because of vibration tho, since i got them mounted in the 5 1/4" bay with no rubber etc.
| MisterBear wrote: | | If so do they have some software to control them?. |
You can use fan controllers, bios, software.. Whatever you prefer. Have it automated or manual.
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Stige
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couleur
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 19:36 Post subject: |
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When are the new cards coming out from both companies? Q2 or Q4 2016?
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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Stige
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| Breezer_ wrote: | Stige likes to run hes hardware to the max, voltages included  . Do you have fullcover waterblock, or some crap that is only for core, that VRM temp is still odd. |
Yeah it is Alphacool "hybrid" fullcover block, aka block with watercooled core but heatsink cooled VRM.
http://www.aquatuning.fi/vesijaeaehdytys/gpu-vesiblokki/gpu-taeydellinen-cooler/20327/alphacool-nexxxos-gpx-ati-r9-390-m03-mit-backplate-schwarz?c=3840
Still infinite times better than the stock ASUS crap, worst triple fan cooler ever propably, I hit 90C+ with stock voltage on it...
I'm not sure I reset my voltage before I started GPU-Z, that explains that high voltage for stock. And the 1650MHz on Memory when 1500 is stock.
It's sitting at 1.352V at idle now, massive vdroop during load.
Running Valley at 1250/1700 atm (stock 1050/1500), having trouble finding the balance between voltage on clocks, both seem to cause artifacts past this point.
I can benchmark Valley at 1265/1500 without artifacts but if I raise Memory to even 1600, I start to get artifacts.
Stock
Best score so far at 1250/1750.
This is from today at 1250/1725 with the new drivers
I cannot figure out this shit, I can't get it to run at those clocks right now, earlier I ran it at 1775... Memory seems very unstable on this.
I have to go increment by increment on both voltages and clocks to get it running properly, notch too high on either voltage will cause artifacts.
Maybe my power limit is too low...
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 20:28 Post subject: |
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Hawaii chip is known that too much voltage can cause artifacts.
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2016 18:28 Post subject: |
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| Yuri wrote: | | When are the new cards coming out from both companies? Q2 or Q4 2016? |
1 and 2 are still amazing. |
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Frant
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memememumumu
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Frant
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2016 11:21 Post subject: |
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Gah, shite.
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