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yep, and its not about piracy (atleast for me). its just an easy way to get homebrew software running to implement better stuff and emulators etc. but i would love to see a dual boot way (hacked, non-hacked) for online stuff
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Dec 2015 15:37 Post subject: |
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Yeah, dual-boot would be awesome. Probably the only way I'm gonna bother with it. Homebrew made PS3 so much better, but gaming is a much smoother experience on legal software (online features without the fear of a ban, games are guaranteed to work, no hassle of any kind needed - "cracks" or "patches" for older CFW, which were a thing before PS3 got completely broken).
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NFOAC
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Dec 2015 16:40 Post subject: |
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Wii U hack is almost as good as PS3
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Dec 2015 18:54 Post subject: |
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I'm happy there's someone working on this.
I will never play multiplayer so i don't worry about it.
Just give me something like 360 JTAG/RGH or PS3 CFW and i will be super happy. Going to buy a PS4 in 6 mounths when i'm done with my 360/PS3 games.. I hope for some hack by then.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Dec 2015 18:57 Post subject: |
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When hack will be released then I might hurry to 'grab' one,PS4 is at decent price these days.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Dec 2015 20:07 Post subject: |
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| NFOAC wrote: | | Wii U hack is almost as good as PS3 |
depends on which ps3 hack you mean, or rather which purpose you use it for. the loadiine launcher is nice work, but still rather rudimentary. a full IOSU hack = ps3 cfw
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Dec 2015 10:40 Post subject: |
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JackQ
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 02:52 Post subject: |
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Only works on firmware 1.76 well that's great, but prolly 99% of the PS4's are prolly already on the newest firmware or at least higher then 1.76 anyway. Well let's hope for higher hackable firmwares then..
And I wouldn't mind getting the X1 hacked, could still be usefull depending on the games in the future.. especially exclusives then if they don't get ported to PC that is...
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JackQ
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 06:02 Post subject: |
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WOLOLO said it's still benefit to post 1.76 as the PS4 is now open for exploring to expliot newest FW.
ALSO:
| Quote: | News keep pouring from the recently revealed PS4 Kernel exploit.
CTurt, the hacker behind the announce, posted a “tease” on twitter earlier today: a dump of the root Filesystem of the PS4, as well as the processes running in the PS4 RAM. Details below.
The Filesystem root shows some similarities with your standard FreeBSD install, with folders such as /dev or /mnt.
Files that are more PS4 specific also show up, such as SceBootSplash.elf and SceSysAvControl.elf. Elf files are executables, it is safe to assume all these files are encrypted, but it would be interesting to understand how easily they can be replaced (although probably sounds like a bad idea to mess up with those, given that they might be essential at boot time, at a point where the hack is probably not running)
Notice also the “update” folder, pretty much self explanatory, and that already existed on the PSP and the PS3.
The processes, here again, are a mix of typical stuff and PS4 specific processes. Look for the Sce* stuff for Sony specific processes, as well as orbis_* (hey, Orbis was the development codename for the PS4).
This is not much at this point, it just shows that Cturt has access to the RAM and can look at all the processes running (which would generally confirm root access), but it’s still super exciting to think what could be done moving forward.
The Kernel exploit has been confirmed to work up to PS4 firmware 1.76, and no release date has been announced yet. We explained however how this PS4 exploit could benefit recent firmwares such as 3.11. Stay tuned! |
http://www.ps3hax.net/2015/12/article-ps4-hack-cturt-showcases-the-filesystem-root-and-processes-in-ram-via-wololo/
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 10:53 Post subject: |
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| snakedtx wrote: | | Only works on firmware 1.76 well that's great, but prolly 99% of the PS4's are prolly already on the newest firmware or at least higher then 1.76 anyway. Well let's hope for higher hackable firmwares then.. |
well, bundles are usually the way to go. there are more than enough ps4s with 1.76 on them gathering dust in retail stores.
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 14:28 Post subject: |
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Damn. People are buying launch ps4 bundles like fucking crazy.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 16:22 Post subject: |
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| bushwacka wrote: | | snakedtx wrote: | | Only works on firmware 1.76 well that's great, but prolly 99% of the PS4's are prolly already on the newest firmware or at least higher then 1.76 anyway. Well let's hope for higher hackable firmwares then.. |
well, bundles are usually the way to go. there are more than enough ps4s with 1.76 on them gathering dust in retail stores. |
Most shops here already sold out theirs. But the question is it worth to get a 1.76? Or just a second PS4 now with 3.11 or lower? Some shops selling older 500gb PS4 for 288 and lower..
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 19:57 Post subject: |
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If you buy a PS4 (and don't have another one already) on 1.76 and want to keep it that way, well it means you don't really need the PS4.
Having it for months (years ?) on 1.76 because some exploit has been done (which doesn't promise anything about backups either) is completely silly. Most games won't work on 1.76 anyway.
Even if a hack is out tomorrow, since Sony relies on "keys" like PS3, it means that >1.76 games will fail anyway if backups work...
So in the end, I'm not sure where it's gonna lead. 3.55 or 3.41 was quite fine back then on PS3 because PS3 was really old and had a huge backlog (and it eventually lead to a better hack).
Obviously that doesn't mean that >1.76 won't be hacked thx to this exploit one day, but... yeah having a PS4 taking dusts is quite meh... IF a proper hack happens, like the PS3, trust me you'll know and you'll have time to buy bundles...
You had time to buy PS3 3.55 bundle, and months to find them, you should be able to find 1.76 bundles in due time if needed.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 20:06 Post subject: |
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I must say, it was fun pirating on 360..RGH was awesome. This time gonna stick with originals, and I need online so badly..it would be to much of a hassle for me these days.. 
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 21:48 Post subject: |
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| cyclonefr wrote: | If you buy a PS4 (and don't have another one already) on 1.76 and want to keep it that way, well it means you don't really need the PS4.
Having it for months (years ?) on 1.76 because some exploit has been done (which doesn't promise anything about backups either) is completely silly. Most games won't work on 1.76 anyway.
Even if a hack is out tomorrow, since Sony relies on "keys" like PS3, it means that >1.76 games will fail anyway if backups work...
So in the end, I'm not sure where it's gonna lead. 3.55 or 3.41 was quite fine back then on PS3 because PS3 was really old and had a huge backlog (and it eventually lead to a better hack).
Obviously that doesn't mean that >1.76 won't be hacked thx to this exploit one day, but... yeah having a PS4 taking dusts is quite meh... IF a proper hack happens, like the PS3, trust me you'll know and you'll have time to buy bundles...
You had time to buy PS3 3.55 bundle, and months to find them, you should be able to find 1.76 bundles in due time if needed. |
My luck with Playstation 3's purchase was spot on. Not only did I buy it close to the time the "Jailbreak" was launched, I also waited till the private keys were leaked and all firmware above 3.55 were easily CFW'd. Same with RGH for 360 as I was very close to trading my Jasper in for a shitty older JTAG.
Anyhoo, fast forward to present and now I'm only planning to get exclusives for the PS4 and keep mulitplats for PC. With Steam now adopting our local currency pricing, it's fucking brilliant. The prices on games are really amazing, barring certain publishers like Bethesda, Konami, Activision etc. So it's more accessible now.
If this does pan out the way PS3's CFW did with the USB part, I might try it. If it involves breaking the console open, then FUCK THAT!
Let's just wait and watch though.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 22:48 Post subject: |
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It won't involve opening the console, it's a soft exploit so far...
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 22:54 Post subject: |
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we will see where this exploit leads to. that guy has full fs access and ram dump etc, first step to break it open. we will see if he is able to dump modified stuff into the ram etc etc etc.
too early to say something about how he is possible to do fancy stuff, once he unleashes the beast many of the talented programmers will jump on the train and maybe we will see nice stuff soon
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| Posted: Fri, 18th Dec 2015 23:28 Post subject: |
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Technical description of the exploit, from CTurt:
http://cturt.github.io/ps4-3.html
Very interesting read (if you're knowledgeable enough to understand it). He said he won't release the source code of the exploit, but after reading the technical description I'd say it's enough for people with the right skills and patience to reproduce.
Now the waiting game begins again... will the kernel dumps reveal a new exploit that could be run on newer firmwares?? Only time will tell...
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Dec 2015 00:04 Post subject: |
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| The_Leaf wrote: | Technical description of the exploit, from CTurt:
http://cturt.github.io/ps4-3.html
Very interesting read (if you're knowledgeable enough to understand it). He said he won't release the source code of the exploit, but after reading the technical description I'd say it's enough for people with the right skills and patience to reproduce.
Now the waiting game begins again... will the kernel dumps reveal a new exploit that could be run on newer firmwares?? Only time will tell... |
We would need a new WebKit entry point first though.
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Dec 2015 00:19 Post subject: |
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yep, that gives enough people a chance to work something out. i think he didnt released the sourcecode cause of fear of beeing sued, sony wasnt calm with guys who released stuff first on ps3. they fucked them, hard, dry in the butt, multiple times
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Dec 2015 00:57 Post subject: |
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Awe, my thing shipped with 2.03.
Off to return to Amazon.
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JackQ
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Dec 2015 14:47 Post subject: |
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So, the talk is supposed to be today, correct? Anyone knows at what time? The CCC website is just giving me 503 error over and over.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Dec 2015 14:58 Post subject: |
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CCC is running from today (think officially started 30-60min ago) till the 30th in hamburg
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Dec 2015 18:28 Post subject: |
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Managed to load the official schedule, but I see no mention of fail0verflow or Penguins on Aeolia.
Well, we'll see. It was supposed to be just a five minute talk/announcement from what I've read.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Dec 2015 19:21 Post subject: |
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Should be just hype nothing else
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