need a good linux emulator for windows
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 16:17    Post subject: need a good linux emulator for windows
my problem is that, in order to work with suse linux, i have to reboot the comp and hence shut down all the processes, ie. downloads etc.
i was searching for a linux emulator on windows which has all the important built-in apps.
i finally got coLinux working an hour ago but the prob is it doesnt have any apps that i need like emacs, xterm etc.
can anyone tell me if there is an emulator running full linux, for example suse?


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 17:19    Post subject:
Vmware.
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 18:05    Post subject:
thisted wrote:
Vmware.


Or VirtualPC, although VirtualPC is now microsoft owned.. Both applications simulate an actual PC from devices, to ram and HDD space, you can thus install any OS you like onto it and run it within windows Smile! Let us know if you need any help/advice on it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 19:08    Post subject:
Definatly VMware. VirtualPC went down the drain the moment Microsoft bought it , that's why MS is planning to ship it with some versions of vista (and no i am not one of those Microsoft haters Wink ).
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 19:23    Post subject:
ok thx everyone, i guess i ll try VMware then, hope it works fine.


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 19:41    Post subject:
when you talking about a windows/linux emulator there are only one you can use. VMWare Very Happy


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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 20:43    Post subject:
well i tried using coLinux with debian, but its not really what i wanted, didnt have the applications i need for linux.


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 21:13    Post subject:
You cannot get emacs, xterm for Debian Shocked
Cant you get the source code and install it that way?
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 21:42    Post subject:
i ll just install suse 10 when i get vmware running, should work i guess.


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 21:57    Post subject:
I tried a few distro's then SuSE 9 and havent used any other since. Its so easy setts up hardware and mounts all your drives.

But dont expext dvd or mp3 to work out of the box, dvd wasnt too difficult but am still struggling to get universal mp3 support.
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 21:59    Post subject:
i basically just need it for programming, the only tools i need right now are emacs xterm and of course the g++ compiler.


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 23:10    Post subject:
Go with Debian dude, much nicer distro if you don't need all the pretty crap Razz!
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 23:18    Post subject:
well i created a new virtual machine now and allocated 256 MB RAM for it, but how can i limit its usage of the cpu?
and is it possible to install suse on a hdd with a suse 10 live disc, or is that one meant exclusively for starting linux off the disc?


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 23:29    Post subject:
D_A_Kuja wrote:
well i created a new virtual machine now and allocated 256 MB RAM for it, but how can i limit its usage of the cpu?
and is it possible to install suse on a hdd with a suse 10 live disc, or is that one meant exclusively for starting linux off the disc?


Some provide the function, but I doubt SUSE10 does. I would suggest checking the website to check ? Something like DSL can do that though..
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 23:41    Post subject:
its ok i m leeching the normal suse 10 iso of their ftp.
the live version didnt work on vmware, it freezed after the kernel check.


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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 00:48    Post subject:
D_A_Kuja wrote:
i basically just need it for programming, the only tools i need right now are emacs xterm and of course the g++ compiler.

if you just need a console and no x window
try cygwin

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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 19:28    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
Go with Debian dude, much nicer distro if you don't need all the pretty crap Razz!


What do u mean?

Debian comes with KDE and Gnome desktops just like SuSE10 is this the pretty crap you mean?
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 20:08    Post subject:
well i installed suse 10 now, and it used around 3,5 GB of space and everything seems to work fine but i just cant start any compiled c++ programs, i tried with console and xterm, nothing worked.
i compiled and linked the program with g++, but when i try to start it, it says "unknown command".
i triplechecked that everything is right, "g++ -o prog prog.o" is the correct command line but yet it doesnt work when i try to start the prog with the command "prog".
anything to do with the library files?

- yea i know its kinda off-topic but i d greatly appreciate if anyone could tell me what to do, the written program itself is 100% correct but even that doesnt matter as it doesnt wanna link at all.


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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 20:37    Post subject:
If your in that directory -
./prog ?
Or try the full path -
/home/username/prog
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 21:07    Post subject:
Basil-Brush wrote:
[sYn] wrote:
Go with Debian dude, much nicer distro if you don't need all the pretty crap Razz!


What do u mean?

Debian comes with KDE and Gnome desktops just like SuSE10 is this the pretty crap you mean?


Debain comes with what you tell it to download on the install, which includes ANY of the window managers. Although, this isnt what I was refering too. SUSE has a lot of software which you would never use, doing a typical desktop install will install so much crap you could fill a 10gb drive with 1 install, debian gives much free'er choice, allowing you to choose exactly what you want to install in a far better way than SUSE.

Of course, this is mearly my opinion.
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 21:22    Post subject:
Basil-Brush wrote:
If your in that directory -
./prog ?
Or try the full path -
/home/username/prog


thx but didnt work.
i ll fiddle around a bit and see what i can do.


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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 05:20    Post subject:
btw, is there a way to transfer files from my host machine running in xp to my vmware machine running in suse?
or even better a way of making the vmware machine access files on my physical hdd that i m using for win xp.

edit: ok i found out it works simply by drag n drop, crazy Smile.
but, do the files actually get copied that way (hence use up double the space),
or is it simply a link to the files on the physical drive?


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 21:58    Post subject:
I think it would be a copy.
AFAIK links in linux are symlinks created with the command,
ln -s path-to-original-file path-to-new-file
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Dec 2005 03:45    Post subject:
but the thing is, i dont get how to copy a file from my suse linux running on vmware to my comp running on win xp.
i tried with drag and drop as it says in the help file but it doesnt work, i activated the drag and drop function in the menu as well.
i also tried to create a shared folder but its nowhere to be found in suse.
now this is kind of a problem, because i need to get my programs online, and i cant do so with suse on vmware so i need a way to simply copy a file from suse to win xp, or to create a shared folder in vmware suse which is recognized in win xp or vice versa.
does anyone know what to do?


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Dec 2005 03:42    Post subject:
If you use bridged networking, so the VMware machine has it's own IP, you can just start up samba and log in from your win xp machine to the guest IP. I think the shared folder stuff in vmware is accessed by either mounting //.host/Shared Folders/ or you can browse it with "smb:///.host/Shared Folders" in konqueror if you use KDE. I don't know how that works in gnome.
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Dec 2005 06:41    Post subject:
ok thx, will do that.


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