riding a motorcycle in the winter
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Invasor
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2015 19:36    Post subject: riding a motorcycle in the winter
Is it TOO dangerous?

I know its cold, but with proper gear that's not an issue, I am not sure about safety though...
I'm wondering specifically if it is possible to travel on motorways, or is it too slippery?
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2015 19:42    Post subject:
Why would it be? Pretty sure you can buy studded tires for motorcycles aswell.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2015 19:56    Post subject:
Yes, you can, but I don't think they are legal in most countries?
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2015 20:00    Post subject:
for driving on roads during winter - summer tires become hard and you get noticeably less traction - it's very dangerous - like driving on wet surface
I haven't seen any winter tires for bikes so far
you can probably drive motocross offroad tires in hard snow with no problem

for the cold - there are heated seats, heated pants, heated wheel handles.. all plug in 12V
they help to a certain degree, but don't expect trying to go 80km/h+ in -0C

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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2015 20:07    Post subject:
Invasor wrote:
Yes, you can, but I don't think they are legal in most countries?


The ones you use for ice and shit, yeah.

But in Finland I'm pretty sure you can get studded tires for scooters and mopeds so I don't see why you wouldn't be able to for motorcycles aswell?

Or even winter tyres without studs.

I remember driving my scooter with same tires during winter and summer but it barely did 80kph so.

Like StrEagle said, "offroad" type of tyres should work fine in snow, ice is another thing though.

In Finland all highways and motorways are pretty free of ice any time of the year really, so I don't think they are the places you would be having issues in atleast.
I would be more worried about the ice and really slippery bits in lights and stuff where people break and accelerate constantly, those do get slippery and icy.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2015 20:12    Post subject:
http://www.aerostich.com/self-tapping-carbide-tire-studs.html

These should be legal to use if you ask me atleast.

They look almost exactly like studs on car tyres, I really don't see any reason anyone would have issues with those, they aren't exactly spikes, just regular studs.

It does seem hard to find premade studded tires for motorcycles. If you don't count the ones with real spikes on them lol
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2015 20:48    Post subject:
Well I was thinking more of highways and motorways, I don't know if studded tyres would be useful in such conditions?

As for the cold wind, I think with proper gear and enough layers it should be fine, I saw a blog from someone who rides in -20C in norway...
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2015 08:49    Post subject:
You can always use tyres from ice speedway Very Happy But falling and getting hit by them would not be pleasant.
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2015 09:31    Post subject:
Something with similiar pattern should work fine for snow atleast, if you can find big enough tires for your needs


Then add studs yourself for grip on ice if needed.

Speedway tyres are the type that are illegal for road use Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 00:48    Post subject:
I was kinda hoping to hear "You're crazy, don't do this!" but now I guess I'll have to do it! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 00:53    Post subject:
something like this should help

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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 00:59    Post subject:
Why you even want to drive a motorcycle in the winter? You can get the best tires and drive super safe but who says the guy behind you or in the oncoming traffic thought the same?


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 01:12    Post subject:
Lathieza wrote:
Why you even want to drive a motorcycle in the winter? You can get the best tires and drive super safe but who says the guy behind you or in the oncoming traffic thought the same?

Well because it will be my only vehicle. Between a car and a bike I figured the motorcycle will be much more practical (especially for parking) and cheap to run.

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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 01:25    Post subject:
driving a motocycle from the the time when the leafes start to drop and its wet and nasty outside -> deathwish
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 15:13    Post subject:
Some Germans come to Norway to ride motorcycles in the winter, because its illegal in Germany. I used to drive my moped on ice, generally it went pretty fine until one day after some rain. Driving in normal snow conditions shouldn't be a problem with proper tyres.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 15:26    Post subject:
na its not illegal in winter here in germany, if u are used to drive enduros and know who to handle slippy roads its ok. but if something happens if you drive on snowy roads (wet roads alone without ice are not problem ofc) -> no insurence would pay cause you have no suitable winter tires on your bike (and spikes or whatever are ofc illegal on public roads)
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 16:00    Post subject:
Yes its dangerous, duh. here in the UK I used to ride, but stopped because I was going to have kids and didn't want to leave them fatherless.

But, aside from dangerous, its also horrible... so cold, upgrade to a car Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 16:35    Post subject:
or get one of these "beauties"




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 16:36    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
or get one of these "beauties"


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 16:42    Post subject:
Don't do it inv. Get yourself a small car instead.


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 20:34    Post subject:
yea maybe, but I really like riding motorcycles Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 20:35    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
or get one of these "beauties"




Laughing



thats actually really practical for the city, never saw one with a passenger though
seems more suited for the mother-in-law
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 21:06    Post subject:
friend of mine who owns a motocycle shop (for real bikes, not such "things") borrowed a c1 a while ago, oh buy that looked soooo stupid ^^ sadly i dont have the vid from him on the highway with that thing anymore, was laughing so hard
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 21:31    Post subject:
I thought it was doable in Belgium, had not much problems... it is way more dangerous than spring/summertime though. Not only the slipperiness but mostly the fact that it is dark during the most busy hours.
Somehow people are even worse in their cars around wintertime. You really need to drive defensive since you can't rely on normal behaviour from the others.

In South-Sweden... it is doable as long as there is no heavy snowfall or if it is continuous. They are pretty decent at clearing the roads if they get the time in between the snowfall.


That C1 is just horrible Drove it the first time at an event at Zolder circuit. Was about the time they first came out. Lots of people were laughing with how it looked. The balance wasn't that comfortable when you stood still.


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