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pwr




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 11:58    Post subject:
neeger93 wrote:
I'm sure the game will be entertaining for dozens and dozens of hours but that doesn't change the fact that this is shaping up to be a pretty big dissappointment. And let's face it, the chanches of Beth salvaging it with a great story and good writing are slim to none.

Hope to be wrong and praying for hysteria and all that, of course. Laughing


So we are already looking at a Diablo-3-level-dissapoinment, from the comments in this forum Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:03    Post subject:
neeger93 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
r3dshift wrote:
apart from the amazing KB+M support.


Hah, right. How much do you want to bet there's locked mouse acceleration? Laughing

Probably no mouse control in menus/pip boy either. Laughing

Shit, I completetly forgot about that. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:09    Post subject:
I'm getting flashbacks to the Skyrim thread 4 years ago.
Everyone was shitting on the graphics, gameplay, engine, animations and other stuff, yet in the end most of the hump enjoyed the game Razz
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:10    Post subject:
Ke1N4o wrote:
I'm getting flashbacks to the Skyrim thread 4 years ago.
Everyone was shitting on the graphics, gameplay, engine, animations and other stuff, yet in the end most of the hump enjoyed the game Razz


Why can't we have both? Or are you saying that people cannot criticise *anything*?
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:11    Post subject:
Im going to buy it on steam so I can get a refund..
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:14    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Ke1N4o wrote:
I'm getting flashbacks to the Skyrim thread 4 years ago.
Everyone was shitting on the graphics, gameplay, engine, animations and other stuff, yet in the end most of the hump enjoyed the game Razz


Why can't we have both? Or are you saying that people cannot criticise *anything*?


yep.


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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:18    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Ke1N4o wrote:
I'm getting flashbacks to the Skyrim thread 4 years ago.
Everyone was shitting on the graphics, gameplay, engine, animations and other stuff, yet in the end most of the hump enjoyed the game Razz


Why can't we have both? Or are you saying that people cannot criticise *anything*?


No, it's okay, i'm a fan of the theory that everyone has its own opinion and i value that, not gonna try to change anyone's mind.Some of us will enjoy it, some of us will not, that's just the way it is.Personally I'm still really hyped about the game, Fallout is one of my favorite franchises of all time and yeah they took a weird turn after 2007, but I still try to enjoy the remaining aspects of the game.I understand the need for criticism and I'm not at all happy about the supposed dumbed down dialog and stuff like that, I just hope it wont affect the side quests, because for this is a big part of the latest Fallout games.I just find similarity in this thread and Skyrim one, hopefully in the end the result will be the same and we will enjoy the game, I know that I personally will spent countless hours in the wasteland Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:20    Post subject:
neeger93 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
r3dshift wrote:
apart from the amazing KB+M support.


Hah, right. How much do you want to bet there's locked mouse acceleration? Laughing

Probably no mouse control in menus/pip boy either. Laughing

What do you want that for? thats silly. Install the companion app on your ipad and you can just tap away!
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:21    Post subject:
Ke1N4o wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Ke1N4o wrote:
I'm getting flashbacks to the Skyrim thread 4 years ago.
Everyone was shitting on the graphics, gameplay, engine, animations and other stuff, yet in the end most of the hump enjoyed the game Razz


Why can't we have both? Or are you saying that people cannot criticise *anything*?


No, it's okay, i'm a fan of the theory that everyone has its own opinion and i value that, not gonna try to change anyone's mind.Some of us will enjoy it, some of us will not, that's just the way it is.Personally I'm still really hyped about the game, Fallout is one of my favorite franchises of all time and yeah they took a weird turn after 2007, but I still try to enjoy the remaining aspects of the game.I understand the need for criticism and I'm not at all happy about the supposed dumbed down dialog and stuff like that, I just hope it wont affect the side quests, because for this is a big part of the latest Fallout games.I just find similarity in this thread and Skyrim one, hopefully in the end the result will be the same and we will enjoy the game, I know that I personally will spent countless hours in the wasteland Razz


But that's just it, most of us are still hyped about the game itself, we're just not happy with how it looks and the "appearance" of even more ridiculous dumbing down.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:24    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Why can't we have both?

Fool! There is no grey, only black and white.

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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:25    Post subject:


Lutzifer wrote:
and yes, mine is only average
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:26    Post subject:
even those pc pics look Vomit
hopefully sweetfx/reshade will save the day
after those screens, witcher looks like its from 2025 Laughing Reaction


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neeger93




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:27    Post subject:
Yup, I'm definitely hyped but also dissapointed by what we have seen so far and Beth should be criticised for not really moving the series forward in any significant way. Anyway this topic seems to be going the W3 way. A bit OT, but isn't it funny how W3 despite the graphical downgrade still ended up being sort of the benchmark for open world games.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:30    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
even those pc pics look Vomit
hopefully sweetfx/reshade will save the day

Courtesy of the codex.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:34    Post subject:
They don't care what you think about the graphics

http://gamerant.com/bethesda-fallout-4-graphics-complaints-114/
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:39    Post subject:
madness wrote:
They don't care what you think about the graphics

http://gamerant.com/bethesda-fallout-4-graphics-complaints-114/


Why would they when they've got so many people ready to defend them? Or trotting out the same old "lolol graphics whores lolol, gameplay matters!"? It's like you can't mention visuals any more, it's a taboo subject and anyone actually expecting improvement gets jeered.


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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:39    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
Edit: Flame thrower video https://vid.me/QjQ2
Those flames look like shit.


Holy fuck. Not only the flames look like shit, everything looks like shit. Seriously.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:40    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:




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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:40    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
tonizito wrote:
Badrien wrote:
Doesnt look like this was posted yet(or i need glasses xD)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1134005

supposedly PC ultra screenshots
Ultra what? Textures surely not, because those are about on par with FO3 and FO:NV Facepalm

This is what happens when people buy your product no matter what. No innovation, no improvement. Only streamlining.
Edit: Flame thrower video https://vid.me/QjQ2
Those flames look like shit.

No really, theres no heat distortion.
Unlike what they showed here
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:41    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
No really, theres no heat distortion.
Unlike what they showed here
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Nothing the "leaks" looks anything even remotely as good as the reveal. This whole debacle is immensely disappointing .. DESPITE the fact that I'm still going to enjoy the game as it is.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:46    Post subject:
http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aLBOmRA_460sv.mp4


Lutzifer wrote:
and yes, mine is only average
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MishkiN




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:53    Post subject:
harry_theone wrote:
WTF, PC should AT LEAST, look like this.

http://www.xboxoneuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Fallout4_Trailer_Wasteland_1433355638.jpg

Not that low-res ass diddle doo.


Don't see any difference between that screen and the ultra screens to be honest.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 12:56    Post subject:
from everything I've seen the game looks like it should have been released about 3 years ago, for what it seems to be offering. Anyway, wheres the cheapest place for a key atm?, I'm a little flushed this week so thinking of placing an order. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 13:00    Post subject:
http://au.ign.com/articles/2015/11/03/voice-actress-courtenay-taylor-fallout-4-is-like-a-pixar-movie

(dialogue-wise, not visual.. because.. yeah.. that would be hilarious, kinda like AMD claiming the Xbox One would provide Avatar-like visuals Laughing)

xyzg wrote:
from everything I've seen the game looks like it should have been released about 3 years ago, for what it seems to be offering. Anyway, wheres the cheapest place for a key atm?, I'm a little flushed this week so thinking of placing an order. Very Happy


Well they did say they'd started work on it right after FO3. Seven year development cycle on the same goddamn engine they've used since Morrowind.. it's no wonder it looks so terrible, with the possible exception of *some* of the dynamic lighting.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 13:03    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
http://au.ign.com/articles/2015/11/03/voice-actress-courtenay-taylor-fallout-4-is-like-a-pixar-movie

(dialogue-wise, not visual.. because.. yeah.. that would be hilarious, kinda like AMD claiming the Xbox One would provide Avatar-like visuals Laughing)

xyzg wrote:
from everything I've seen the game looks like it should have been released about 3 years ago, for what it seems to be offering. Anyway, wheres the cheapest place for a key atm?, I'm a little flushed this week so thinking of placing an order. Very Happy


Well they did say they'd started work on it right after FO3. Seven year development cycle on the same goddamn engine they've used since Morrowind.. it's no wonder it looks so terrible, with the possible exception of *some* of the dynamic lighting.


640x480 and ~30 FPS and the XBO might pull it off. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 13:07    Post subject:

* PC Worker drones have to make them first.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 13:33    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:

... kinda like AMD claiming the Xbox One would provide Avatar-like visuals...


Didnt they really say that a long time ago? I totally forgot, and i bet they wanna forget that too.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 13:37    Post subject:
Do we really need a kaching slot machine sound for every exp gain?
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Nov 2015 13:39    Post subject:
Ishkur123 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:

... kinda like AMD claiming the Xbox One would provide Avatar-like visuals...


Didnt they really say that a long time ago? I totally forgot, and i bet they wanna forget that too.


Yup, they did Very Happy Back when we only knew it as "Xbox 720" Very Happy

dsergei wrote:
Do we really need a kaching slot machine sound for every exp gain?


That was there in FO3 and NV too Smile
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