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LeoNatan
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This map is from NFS HP 2 (PC version at least), isn't it? Just the waterfall missing, but layout seems very similar to me...
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harry_theone
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@freiwald FANBOY ALARM!! Like people hating on Titanfail (which probably has less players than HARDLINE) was something new as opposed to you and Royal being total fanboys of it. A lot played it a lot disliked most of the game, is that the only game? Ofc not, we hate COD for the same shit as well.
Of course he has to pull the "they play other games I don't like so they're idiots" card, insults, insults everywhere! Like Morph said, you're NOT better than us "assholes/idiots/whatever" you titled us repeatedly. I'm writing this because since he's banned, if he wants to read the forum he needs to be logged out and has no "ignore" option -> thus needs to "endure" what we write.
@cyclonefr You quoted a troll post from me 10 hours after you already were engaged in something else? You trying to start something? Best of luck, NOT WITH ME.
Please, you were known for saying things and twisting words that never were true. It was okay just like KC, but somehow each one of you starts posting that stuff everywhere ALL THE TIME or in threads where it doesn't belong and it starts to get annoying, that's not an opinion anymore nor "freedom of speech".
Oh yeah? I bet Unity would've gotten much better in performance if it was delayed, suuuuure, I believe in fairy tales  People are still waiting for the "60 fps patch" for Arkham Knight as well, should've been delayed, performance guaranteed 
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2015 18:55 Post subject: |
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| harry_theone wrote: | @freiwald FANBOY ALARM!! Like people hating on Titanfail (which probably has less players than HARDLINE) was something new as opposed to you and Royal being total fanboys of it. A lot played it a lot disliked most of the game, is that the only game? Ofc not, we hate COD for the same shit as well.
Of course he has to pull the "they play other games I don't like so they're idiots" card, insults, insults everywhere! Like Morph said, you're NOT better than us "assholes/idiots/whatever" you titled us repeatedly. I'm writing this because since he's banned, if he wants to read the forum he needs to be logged out and has no "ignore" option -> thus needs to "endure" what we write.
@cyclonefr You quoted a troll post from me 10 hours after you already were engaged in something else? You trying to start something? Best of luck, NOT WITH ME.
Please, you were known for saying things and twisting words that never were true. It was okay just like KC, but somehow each one of you starts posting that stuff everywhere ALL THE TIME or in threads where it doesn't belong and it starts to get annoying, that's not an opinion anymore nor "freedom of speech".
Oh yeah? I bet Unity would've gotten much better in performance if it was delayed, suuuuure, I believe in fairy tales People are still waiting for the "60 fps patch" for Arkham Knight as well, should've been delayed, performance guaranteed |
More like you are everywhere complaining about my posts.
If you somehow just accepted that I have opinions too, then most threads wouldn't be clattered of useless posts and you would simply stop saying "stop saying shit, your opinion is wrong and you suck".
No I won't go back to my console arena, here it's already elaborated that games will run at 30fps in the worst case scenario, and on every rig. So yeah there is nothing more to say. Or maybe not, I posted about Until Dawn running sometimes at sub par 20 fps. So yeah, I did that. I wished that the developers would have taken time to optimize it a bit more, sadly they released it as is.
Lucky you to have EA promising a 60fps version of NFS on PC. Honestly I'd take the 6 month delay to have this running at 60fps rather than 30 fps on PS4, but I guess they don't care much about console optimization (IN BEFORE PS4 hardware sucks so that's the only reason it runs at 30fps : even Resident Evil HD on PS4 runs at 30fps, surely it's due to the PS4 hardware huh ?  ).
Everything can be optimized, and you are incredibly lucky to have EA finally questioning themselves about their PC ports. But yep let's blame EA somehow cuz you know, that's what nfohump does, blaming publishers every now and then.
Although gotta admit : NFOHump would be so dead without the constant hate about every developper. The only active thread would have been about MGS5 and Mad max then, and guess what they have in common ? Good performances on low end rigs. What a coincidence !
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2015 19:06 Post subject: |
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| cyclonefr wrote: |
More like you are everywhere complaining about my posts. |
This is the first time in ages, lol more like you can't stop thinking about me
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If you somehow just accepted that I have opinions too, then most threads wouldn't be clattered of useless posts and you would simply stop saying "stop saying shit, your opinion is wrong and you suck". |
I see no harm in people telling you things you got wrong, based upon actual facts, not some made up stuff you created in your mind.
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No I won't go back to my console arena, here it's already elaborated that games will run at 30fps in the worst case scenario, and on every rig. So yeah there is nothing more to say. Or maybe not, I posted about Until Dawn running sometimes at sub par 20 fps. So yeah, I did that. I wished that the developers would have taken time to optimize it a bit more, sadly they released it as is. |
Can you quote correctly or are you always using posts from yesterday as a base to still have a "valid" argument? I don't care, honestly.
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Everything can be optimized, and you are incredibly lucky to have EA finally questioning themselves about their PC ports. But yep let's blame EA somehow cuz you know, that's what nfohump does, blaming publishers every now and then.
Else that forum would be dead |
OH YES VERY LUCKY  
See, YOUR OPINION is not the issue, passages like this are the issue. No holy Publishers and Devs, we are not worthy of your "hard effort" creating 60 fps in your holidays.
Because this is the hump and no one is allowed to have their freedom of speech and thinking differently about all the shitsticks we got over the course of those past years  So SHUT UP AND BE THANKFUL THE GODS NOTICED US.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2015 21:19 Post subject: |
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Most likely yes. Didn't bother trying.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2015 21:46 Post subject: |
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No microtransactions and unlikely paid DLC... Can this be real?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2015 21:50 Post subject: |
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This is almost too good to be true. I hope it's not another free DLC fest like Witcher 3. These "free DLC" were quite lame and I could understand why they were free.
Proper DLC for NFS would be free cars and what not (like the current paid DLC for previous NFS games).
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2015 22:36 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: |
This map is from NFS HP 2 (PC version at least), isn't it? Just the waterfall missing, but layout seems very similar to me... |
I honestly don't know, bud, I didn't really play HP2. Hell... to be honest, I haven't played much NFS since Carbon. I tried out Rivals just to see how the 60fps fix worked, but egh. You'd know the tracks better than I would  Now, if we were talking about Ridge Racer...  |
HP 2 is from 2002. |
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2015 22:43 Post subject: |
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I thought Hot Pursuit "2" was the new one? Oops! Oh well, sadly my point remains; I'm not familiar enough with the maps to recognise them. Any of the NFS titles to be honest.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 01:22 Post subject: |
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Nah, that one is just Hot Pursuit. Need for Speed 3 is also Hot Pursuit though! And Need for Speed 6 is Hot Pursuit 2. EA is so good at naming their titles!
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 11:11 Post subject: |
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| DarkRohirrim wrote: | | Nah, that one is just Hot Pursuit. Need for Speed 3 is also Hot Pursuit though! And Need for Speed 6 is Hot Pursuit 2. EA is so good at naming their titles! |
This.
1998 (?) = NFS 3: Hot Pursuit
2002 = NFS 6: Hot Pursuit 2
<franchise dies in the meantime)
2010 = NFSlostcount: Huehue Pursuit
2012 = NFSstilllost: Most Wanted, which obviously sits on the "HP" side of the franchise; this is Huehue Pursuit 2 really.
Edit: Wikipedia says the below. I renumbered it from the table of contents, taking out No Limits (mobile game) and both Shift games.
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1 The Need for Speed (1994)
2 Need for Speed II (1997)
3 Need for Speed III: Hot Pursuit (1998)
4 Need for Speed: High Stakes/Road Challenge (1999)
5 Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed/Porsche 2000 (2000)
6 Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2 (2002)
7 Need for Speed: Underground (2003)
8 Need for Speed: Underground 2 (2004)
9 Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005)
10 Need for Speed: Carbon (2006)
11 Need for Speed: ProStreet (2007)
12 Need for Speed: Undercover (2008)
13 Need for Speed: Nitro (2009)
14 Need for Speed: World (2010)
15 Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit (2010)
16 Need for Speed: The Run (2011)
17 Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2012)
18 Need for Speed: Rivals (2013)
19 Need for Speed (2015)
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Past 2003/2004 the franchise has had no direction. While not a huge fan of the Underground ones, those still had enjoyable racing. The first Most Wanted was already bad and with Carbon and onwards the franchise died as far as I'm concerned. I can't count the Shift games in 2009/2011 as NFS games, even compared to the old games those 2 are really something different entirely. |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 12:18 Post subject: |
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| garus wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: |
This map is from NFS HP 2 (PC version at least), isn't it? Just the waterfall missing, but layout seems very similar to me... |
What the fuck did I just watch? Terrible physics, cars booping each other like rubber balls. |
Damn those disco inferno light effects. Everything seems to glow just to make sure you can see it. Winter daylight looks nice but the game seems to be way too arcade.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 13:42 Post subject: |
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| Janz wrote: | | na werelds, cmon. the first most wanted was awesome |
No, it was not. Driving had already gone to shit, it was "cinematic".
HP2 (the real one) wasn't great, but it was still better than most shit that came after it. |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 13:47 Post subject: |
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driving gone to shit after porsche. but mw wasnt bad as a carbon or pro street and i dont even want to mention bootsimulator 2008 aka undercover or 2011 aka the run
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 15:27 Post subject: |
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Driving was shit before Porsche, first and second were bad. We used to laugh with how bad those games were in the handling department back in the days.
To me and most of my friends when we heard NFS, we already knew what to expect. Porsche and the underground ones was a different case but for all the rest (shift being something completely different)... no that driving always felt awkward.
Edit: Ah well, I never got why this franchise had such a following. Even in later years when I tried some of them again because people were giving me the 'its so awesome' stories I disliked the driving in them. Maybe they are just not for me (and no it's not about arcade or sim  ).
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 21:25 Post subject: |
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you have to judge the first nfs in the context of the time when it came out. must have been mid 1994. for that time the gfx, the sound which was sampled from real engine, the videos made with real cars (they almost crashed the lambo -> therefore it was decided not to do that again) and the handling too -> everying outstanding
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 21:38 Post subject: |
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Hot Pursuit 2 (Nr. 6) was hot shit, not sure what you guys are on about, it was sick as fuck. Those countless hours of game time alone and with others, insane.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 21:44 Post subject: |
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| Janz wrote: | | you have to judge the first nfs in the context of the time when it came out. must have been mid 1994. for that time the gfx, the sound which was sampled from real engine, the videos made with real cars (they almost crashed the lambo -> therefore it was decided not to do that again) and the handling too -> everying outstanding |
I said the driving, so let's stick to that... no it wasn't outstanding. And yes I was judging it at the time, when I was actually playing the damn thing and other games I would compare it to. |
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 22:22 Post subject: |
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| Janz wrote: | @harry: i just disliked the whole helicopter throws exploding barrels stuff
@morph: so when did you played the first nfs? when gtr came out? |
Should be 1995/1996, had it on DOS and it came with my Sega Saturn, tho if I remember correctly we played it before that on my friends 3DO.
Edit: now don't get me wrong, the entire package was great. The only reason I stuck with it was: that aside from the handling it was impressive. But me and my friends were all on the same page about the handling... shitty.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 22:22 Post subject: |
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Personally I have fond memories of two NFS games, the first one which was rather ahead of its times and "fresh" in terms of what it was trying to do (apart from the older Test Drive, there weren't many games like that around), and of course Porsche Unleashed, which for me is both the fascinating peak of the NFS formula and also its end. 
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 22:30 Post subject: |
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@morph: what racing games with better handling were available that years? i remember none, only grand prix 2, but that came late 1996 afaik. nfs1 is from 1994
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2015 23:01 Post subject: |
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I'm willing to bet that most people didn't have their hands on it in LATE 1994 (since that was when it released, and I doubt there were that many 3DO owners), 1995 would be more realistic I'd even argue 96 for most people.
That being said: Indycar, Daytona USA, Nascar, Rave Racer,...
I'd list some of the 2d ones as well, but I know you'd whine on that.
If we'd take 96 in mind I'd have more.
I do think that being 'first' (since you were going for that) doesn't excuse a game of having crappy handling. It was unresponsive and had cases of stuttering.
Now I don't mind that you enjoyed it, that for you it was good enough. But I can't agree one bit on: NFS handling gone to shit after Porsche, it was well before that already.
Could it be that the whole experience made you judge the handling better than it was? I played the 3DO version 5 weeks ago when I was setting up my retrobox and it performed the same way as I remembered.
Edit: well one nicer thing was that I didn't have to use those 3DO pads this time!
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or do the same with ferrari
