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 Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2005 17:56 Post subject: 512 ddr ram enough? |
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hi is 512mb ddr ram enough. I'm gonna buy a new notebook. I will use it for downloading, surfing and burning at the same time and a bit video encoding and decoding. The cpu is gonna be a 2,0ghz sempron.
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fisk
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2005 18:39 Post subject: |
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Anything below 1024MB RAM is too little imho.
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2005 18:40 Post subject: |
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2.0 sempron will probably be more of a bottleneck than 512 mb ram ...
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2005 18:54 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | 2.0 sempron will probably be more of a bottleneck than 512 mb ram ... |
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mag2005
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2005 20:45 Post subject: |
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512mb is enough, unless you run a lot of apps on your laptop. 1gb of ram is better tho.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2005 17:00 Post subject: |
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ok thx a lot. Of course I can always upgrade it to 1gb but i think i will go for the 512mb. Do any of you know if the sempron 2,0 will decode h.264 1080p smoothly? My 1700+ won't but who had exspected that? I think it will ALMOST decode as a A64 3000+. Remember the M sempron is a socket 754 CPU.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2005 17:09 Post subject: |
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| poulsvensen wrote: | | ok thx a lot. Of course I can always upgrade it to 1gb but i think i will go for the 512mb. Do any of you know if the sempron 2,0 will decode h.264 1080p smoothly? My 1700+ won't but who had exspected that? I think it will ALMOST decode as a A64 3000+. Remember the M sempron is a socket 754 CPU. |
I really, really doubt the sempron will handle 1080p video well. Is a sempron really that different from a celeron?
If you want the laptop for stuff other than gaming (ie video and multi-app processing) you might want to consider intel chips ...
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2005 18:09 Post subject: |
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I have a laptop at home ... Intel 3.06 ghz w/ 512 mb RAM ... maybe I'll try to play one of those fancy 1080p apple trailers and see how it runs.
I know it plays the 1080p HD WMV9 from the T2: extreme edition fine (whereas my desktop amd 2000+ doesn't play that or apple hd trailers)...
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2005 19:03 Post subject: |
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RAM can only be replaced by more RAM. (as long its no 64bit CPU up to 4G)
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2005 21:58 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | Anything below 1024MB RAM is too little imho. |
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2005 23:07 Post subject: |
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| DeepRed wrote: | | Don't forget that too much ram can slow down your system. It all depends on the architecture of the operating system, but that would lead us too far.. |
Its more dependant on how your memory management is setup, which in most OS's can be changed pretty easily. Its all about the SWAP!
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2005 23:08 Post subject: |
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the sempron beats the p4 at the same speed in gaming. It is a KIND of downgraded A64. Less cache and no 64bit support. At least if you compare to an old s 754 A64 i think it will propably almost match it. I think it can be compared to the A64 of course at a lower rating 1,8ghz maybe. When you compare to the p4 in encoding/decoding the p4 wins big time (mhz).
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Nov 2005 14:10 Post subject: |
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Anything lesser than 1 GB wont cut it with todays programs, but I guess you can get away with 512Mb Of RAM. Memory prices have gone down rapidly, so it makes sense to go in for a gig of RAM.
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Nov 2005 01:15 Post subject: |
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| pancake wrote: | http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2139&p=1
the semprons are great budget chips , better then celerons to , a 1.8g sempron is quite a bit quicker then a 2.8 celeron in pretty much all tests and will even keep up with and past a 2.8 p4 b ( wont touch newer p4's though but they cost 5 times as much), and there great for gaming to pretty much on a par with a 2800 a64 |
Yes the sempron is a good budget chip, but your charts mean nothing to this thread! Nor do your comments! The thread starter is asking about video encoding (not game FPS or image rendering) and we have been simply saying that the sempron does not compare to a similarlly clocked P4, this is the truth.
I know you love to pull the AMD over Intels eye's but please leave it to the threads where your points are valid.
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Nov 2005 15:10 Post subject: |
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| [sYn] wrote: | | pancake wrote: | http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2139&p=1
the semprons are great budget chips , better then celerons to , a 1.8g sempron is quite a bit quicker then a 2.8 celeron in pretty much all tests and will even keep up with and past a 2.8 p4 b ( wont touch newer p4's though but they cost 5 times as much), and there great for gaming to pretty much on a par with a 2800 a64 |
Yes the sempron is a good budget chip, but your charts mean nothing to this thread! Nor do your comments! The thread starter is asking about video encoding (not game FPS or image rendering) and we have been simply saying that the sempron does not compare to a similarlly clocked P4, this is the truth.
I know you love to pull the AMD over Intels eye's but please leave it to the threads where your points are valid. |
yea and if you look in the link there is some divx 5.1 encoding tests , i was showing the image rendering test as its classed as multimedia , and the gaming performance in respect to what someone else stated in the thread. as for the sempron not comparing to a similarly clocked p4 thats not quite true , if you could find a p4 clocked at 2ghz and and ran the same tests on that as the 2ghz sempron the sempron would win. if you look for some sempron test on google you can probably find some tests compared to a p4 ( i did first search) and a 2g sempron was quicker then a 2.8 p4b so id assume from that that a 2.0 p4 would be slower still
some multimedia tests http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/sempron-3100e_9.html not bad for a chip that costs a third of a p4 570.
i think a lot of people still beleive that p4's are best for multimedia and amd for gaming , which is no longer the case a p4 needs to be well over 1g faster clock speed to beat a amd chip , get the amd chips closer to p4 clock speeds and they leave p4's in the dust. i always used to have p4's for movie encoding and stuff but now i can get a chip for half the price of a p4 that beats it in gaming and multimedia , if that makes me a fanboy then im happy to be one , i just call it common sense
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