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eyehategod




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Apr 2015 23:28    Post subject:
The closed beta for the future expansion that will be released in 6-8 weeks time from now and that will bump the game version to 2.0 and add act 4 among other changes has started yesterday.

https://www.pathofexile.com/theawakening
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UreKismet




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Apr 2015 02:49    Post subject:
Yeah I signed up for the beta but somehow I doubt I'll be offered a spot early on.
The game is great but it keeps getting fucked by kiwi puritanism. Take a look at one of the patch notes sometime if you've nothing better to do.

Most of the stuff is nerfs of existing equipment or skills

Those blokes at grinding gear must lie awake at night worrying if some player may be getting a 0.0001% advantage by doing something that is usually quite inspired and original.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Apr 2015 14:14    Post subject:
perhaps, but cookiecutter builds is what failed in the diablo series so bad, people stopped experimenting and stopped having fun
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frogster




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Apr 2015 14:51    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
perhaps, but cookiecutter builds is what failed in the diablo series so bad, people stopped experimenting and stopped having fun


and a one time fixed talent tree no errors allowed greatly enhance people desire to experiment fun stuff.
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flipp




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Apr 2015 15:20    Post subject:
exaggeration ...
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Apr 2015 15:49    Post subject:
frogster wrote:
PickupArtist wrote:
perhaps, but cookiecutter builds is what failed in the diablo series so bad, people stopped experimenting and stopped having fun


and a one time fixed talent tree no errors allowed greatly enhance people desire to experiment fun stuff.


Seriously why not play any of the hardcore leagues in POE? as well as the challenge modes that come up frequently. To me it makes the game way more fun to play, there's usually unique stuff in the different modes challenges + losing noob builds will allow you to plow through tons and tons of content.

I am dying for a dev to be ballsy enough to make no respec + perma death arpg or MMO what's the point even dying or stacking anything but damage if i have unlimited lives?
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frogster




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Apr 2015 17:05    Post subject:
because i'm a one man one char. i dont play seasons on d3 (beside leveling for 1-2-3 hours to get some rewards), i love to be able to instantly change my style of play.
like if got 1 gameplay change item i want to be able to play with it in that second, not after i need level another freaking char for hours to center my build around it. if i want to test a stupid build i can do that freely, without needind to level 10+ chars for every fucking fun thing i want to try. i dont like to do that in diablo, when it takes me like 1-2 h to powerlevel to max, for sure i dont want to do it in poe when it takes ages to get to my previous 90 (?) level. dont remember for sure at what level was my witch.

dont know what is so wrong to have options.
want to be hardcore ? dont ever change your build, reroll a new toon. people want to change a build for stupid reasons ? let them do it, is not like they are affecting anyone. eventually for people with 4 balls, put a counter, this char had x respecs, to know for sure that you are better than him.

Quote:
I am dying for a dev to be ballsy enough to make no respec + perma death arpg or MMO what's the point even dying or stacking anything but damage if i have unlimited lives?


what the hell is stopping you to delete you char + gear + gold + whatever every time you die ? NOTHING. but dont impose that crap on everybody.
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flipp




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Apr 2015 17:23    Post subject:
frogster wrote:


what the hell is stopping you to delete you char + gear + gold + whatever every time you die ? NOTHING. but dont impose that crap on everybody.


so ... we can ignore the first part of your post?
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frogster




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Apr 2015 17:44    Post subject:
Why ?
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tet666




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Apr 2015 18:03    Post subject:
frogster wrote:
because i'm a one man one char. i dont play seasons on d3 (beside leveling for 1-2-3 hours to get some rewards), i love to be able to instantly change my style of play.
like if got 1 gameplay change item i want to be able to play with it in that second, not after i need level another freaking char for hours to center my build around it. if i want to test a stupid build i can do that freely, without needind to level 10+ chars for every fucking fun thing i want to try. i dont like to do that in diablo, when it takes me like 1-2 h to powerlevel to max, for sure i dont want to do it in poe when it takes ages to get to my previous 90 (?) level. dont remember for sure at what level was my witch.

dont know what is so wrong to have options.
want to be hardcore ? dont ever change your build, reroll a new toon. people want to change a build for stupid reasons ? let them do it, is not like they are affecting anyone. eventually for people with 4 balls, put a counter, this char had x respecs, to know for sure that you are better than him.

Quote:
I am dying for a dev to be ballsy enough to make no respec + perma death arpg or MMO what's the point even dying or stacking anything but damage if i have unlimited lives?


what the hell is stopping you to delete you char + gear + gold + whatever every time you die ? NOTHING. but dont impose that crap on everybody.


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UreKismet




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 05:02    Post subject:
See right there is the problem - some types want everything in their game to be pure and mathematically accurate while others want their game to reward creativity born of laterally thinking the possibilities and finding an advantage or as the other group would consider it 'loopholes' (there is a jargonage to describe loopholes but I mainly solo and don't remember a lot of the more obscure jargon).

In an ideal game both types of gamer can be catered for - except the first group 'the purists' cannot accept that others may get their enjoyment differently and they spend time better spent gaming analysing other's gameplay and 'alerting' their like minded presbytarians at GGG.
Hence the never ending nerfs when the differences could be solved by a counter or such as frogster explains.

I get a lot of enjoyment soloing in PoE using only found and self crafted items - others do it differently - some even pay cash for uniques offa farming sites- but I feel no need to whine about the way they play. In my mind they are the losers who are missing out on a lot of the most fun part of the game - but that is their call.

Do what thou wilt and all that. Unfortunately some types have a need to try and force the world to be exactly as they want - nonconformists fuck off etc.

Why?
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tet666




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 14:54    Post subject:
UreKismet wrote:
See right there is the problem - some types want everything in their game to be pure and mathematically accurate while others want their game to reward creativity born of laterally thinking the possibilities and finding an advantage or as the other group would consider it 'loopholes' (there is a jargonage to describe loopholes but I mainly solo and don't remember a lot of the more obscure jargon).

In an ideal game both types of gamer can be catered for - except the first group 'the purists' cannot accept that others may get their enjoyment differently and they spend time better spent gaming analysing other's gameplay and 'alerting' their like minded presbytarians at GGG.
Hence the never ending nerfs when the differences could be solved by a counter or such as frogster explains.

I get a lot of enjoyment soloing in PoE using only found and self crafted items - others do it differently - some even pay cash for uniques offa farming sites- but I feel no need to whine about the way they play. In my mind they are the losers who are missing out on a lot of the most fun part of the game - but that is their call.

Do what thou wilt and all that. Unfortunately some types have a need to try and force the world to be exactly as they want - nonconformists fuck off etc.

Why?


I play self found only too in every league, i don't care how anyone else plays i just don't want the game to become a simple and mindless casual game like D3 if you want that play D3 but don't come here like the guy i quoted and complain you have to think and plan a bit about your build and gear in POE or god forbid you have to live with the choices you made.
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frogster




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 15:53    Post subject:
and again, why are you annoyed by this ?
what is wrong to have a choice ? how someone which can freely change his build can fuckt up your gameplay and enjoyment ?

there are people that goes mental if you propose a separate permanent server which allows full build change, even if they have no intention to play on it.

im not complaining that i need to think and plan, the whole thing has started from here : http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2705264#2705264
and i replyed with http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2705282#2705282

care to explain how a a fixed permanent build allow people to experiment fun non optimal stuff ?
i will have great fun planing a fixed build based around some gear which i may never see dropping.
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flipp




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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Jul 2015 05:12    Post subject:
Update release date announced: 10th July
https://www.pathofexile.com/theawakening

Beside act4, new skills and uniques I think that they got rid of desync is the best feature of this.
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pillermann




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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Jul 2015 11:52    Post subject:
Nice. Can't wait to give it another go with some actual meaty new content (Atziri and master dailies were a joke). Have enough gear stashed away by now to equip a bunch of new builds without having to resort to trading.
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Acer




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 10:36    Post subject:
Patch notes for the new act has been released:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1304441


Live begins today at 20.00 CET


Dont mess with God, he can impregnate your girlfriend/wife without taking his pants off!
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 11:00    Post subject:
Acer wrote:
Patch notes for the new act has been released:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1304441


Live begins today at 20.00 CET


christ those notes lol. The prices in the store are still fucking rediculous though Very Happy
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sabathius___




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 12:00    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
Acer wrote:
Patch notes for the new act has been released:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1304441


Live begins today at 20.00 CET


christ those notes lol. The prices in the store are still fucking rediculous though Very Happy


Prices? What prices? It's free to play game.


Future of gaming by Bioware:

"WHEN YOU PRESS A BUTTON, SOMETHING AWESOME HAS TO HAPPEN."
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Casus




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 12:01    Post subject:
Could someone post the patch notes in spoiler tags? I can't access that site for some reason.
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Keit




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 12:02    Post subject:
sabathius___ wrote:
moosenoodles wrote:
Acer wrote:
Patch notes for the new act has been released:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1304441


Live begins today at 20.00 CET


christ those notes lol. The prices in the store are still fucking rediculous though Very Happy


Prices? What prices? It's free to play game.


Pretty sure he means the cosmetics. Which is fine to me if they keep up the quality of the game and keep it from being P2W.
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sabathius___




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 12:18    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
Could someone post the patch notes in spoiler tags? I can't access that site for some reason.


Patch notes:

 Spoiler:
 


Future of gaming by Bioware:

"WHEN YOU PRESS A BUTTON, SOMETHING AWESOME HAS TO HAPPEN."
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Casus




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 12:34    Post subject:
Thank you! Wink
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pillermann




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 12:39    Post subject:
Pff still 8hrs to go
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Casus




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 12:44    Post subject:
I wonder if this "delay" due to the change in netcode is a problem for the flow of the game. Will check it our tonight, though Smile
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pillermann




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 12:58    Post subject:
It will lag like every other online game. It's good that they made it optional.
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Surray




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 13:17    Post subject:
They added servers so you're more likely to have one with good ping now.

I tried it in closed beta and felt no delay at a ping of about 35.

Feels sooooo good without any desync whatsoever. Essentially like playing offline now.
Rip desync.


Party play might become a problem if you party with someone from other regions.
Someone's gonna have a shit ping then and lockstep mode won't really work well for them.


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mtj




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Location: Austria / Finland
PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 13:24    Post subject:
Well, they're handling the desync problem by allowing users to disable the predictive movement.
Then if it's laggy, you simply cannot move. But supposedly it's better than the predictive which can cause you to rubberband around like crazy.


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 13:47    Post subject:
Keit wrote:
sabathius___ wrote:
moosenoodles wrote:


christ those notes lol. The prices in the store are still fucking rediculous though Very Happy


Prices? What prices? It's free to play game.


Pretty sure he means the cosmetics. Which is fine to me if they keep up the quality of the game and keep it from being P2W.


yes I thought the store stuff was quite expensive you are looking at 20 notes for just 200 in store money that is insane when you look at what you get for 200. when most nice stuff is 400+
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snoz




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Location: England
PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 15:10    Post subject:
what league and what you guys playing ? I'm gonna tempest league and 2 hand marauder cyclone i think Very Happy Armor with fortify seems pretty viable now.


Tree :
http://poeurl.com/zscIivR
Thats basic life and defence covered will take damage nodes and/or jewel sockets as I see fit.

215% life is good i think + extra life leech and armor.

Links will be like

Cyclone > Blood Magic>fortify>melee physical>conc effect>added fire (last 2 are open to change)
Leap slam>blood magic>faster attacks
Curse on hit>herald of thunder>herald of ice(maybe herald of ash instead)>(not sure which curse maybe warlord's mark for endurance charges and leech)
Vaal grace>bloodrage>increased duration>hatred
then prolly double strike + links if i need single target


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flipp




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jul 2015 16:25    Post subject:
Looks like I've to rebuild some of my chars ... incinerate Crying or Very sad
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