Monitor for 980ti?
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jun 2015 22:52    Post subject: Monitor for 980ti?
Need a new monitor to go with my shiny new 980ti, which I'm ordering soon Wink Just undecided on G1 or reference, as, at present, there are no water blocks for the G1, but its looking like reference.

Any suggestions?

Tempted to go for the ROG Swift, but the TN panel is putting me off a little. Not interested in 4K, but GSync is a must Smile
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jun 2015 22:56    Post subject:
not many options for you then. either get Acer XB270HU (which has some build quality issues but newer batch is better apparently), or wait for Asus PG2749Q that should come out in August or so.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jun 2015 22:59    Post subject:
There is also coming curved 35" VA G-Sync 144Hz 21:9 Monitor from Acer (Acer Predator Z35). Ultra widescreen is so fucking sweet really for gaming (when it works, but works usually with flawless widescreen utility on bad ports), also for movies its awesome.

EDIT: Curved Acer Predator XR341CK 34" (3440x1440 AH-IPS 100hz G-Sync) confirmed for september 2015 release. 1200 dollars tho Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jun 2015 23:43    Post subject:
^^yep to both posts
those 4 options are currently the best for gaming with Nvidia, but the VA is only 79ppi and there is a photo of the subpixels that looks like it has a grainy matte coating, contrast is also only 2000:1 which is low for a VA panel

144hz 27'' 2560x1440 IPS
Acer XB270HU (G-Sync)
Asus PG279Q (G-Sync)
Asus MG279Q (Freesync)

100hz (previously 75hz) 34'' 3440x1440 IPS
Acer Predator Z34 (previously XR341CK) (G-Sync)

144hz 35'' 2560x1080 AMVA
Acer Predator Z35 (G-Sync)
BenQ XR3501 (no adaptive sync)
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2015 01:14    Post subject:
Yeah, I had closely looked at the Acer XB270HU, but after reading the numerous horror stories, and the panel being below sub-par quality, no thanks. Pity, as it looked a cracking bit of kit Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2015 01:30    Post subject:
You can read horror stories pretty much on every panel these days, quality control is absolutely shit even on top end monitors (backlight bleed etc..). Welcome to the panel lottery Laughing... I have been thinking for months now buying bigger 21:9 screen with 3440x1440 resolution, but the panel lottery man... jesus Very Happy. My current 29" one has absolutely flawless panel, so good (nothing wrong in this one, i just want bigger one Very Happy).
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2015 04:28    Post subject:
was quality control better once? Kinda weird, when I pay over 400 euros for a monitor and there's 50% chance of it being shite.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2015 05:04    Post subject:
Think CRT's had better quality control.

I got the Acer XB0270HU. It's really amazing (if you luck out).
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2015 09:17    Post subject:
I've the ROG and a 980ti. I've zero complaints with the screen and the refresh rate is rather awesome. The only thing, which may not effect you, is that the Oculus Rift currently does not work with g-sync monitors. Apparently they're working on a fix but no eta


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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2015 20:20    Post subject:
How are viewing angles on rog? Do the colour's look washed out?
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jun 2015 02:25    Post subject:
Fuck! This is an absolute nightmare!!

I'm thinking of just staying with my Dell U2410, but now I'm beginning to question whether its even worth getting a 980ti for it? Confused

Monitor fuckin lottery. Utter disgrace, and I ain't spending £700 to go through it, no one should. Mad
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jun 2015 02:46    Post subject:
I will probably pick up XR341CKA when it gets released.

But that price tag is WOOOOOOOOOOOO


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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jun 2015 03:41    Post subject:
/rant

Yeah, but thing is, ACER have let themselves down lately with their QC, so there will be a lot that will not trust them on that one.

The Predator XB270HU is an utter disgrace, and a good example of 'hit the random button', with what shit you may get. Yes, one may get lucky and you will get a good one, but it shouldn't be that way, more so, when one is spending hundreds of pounds on that hardware, and with a quick glance over @ OC.UK and other places, shows ACER don't give a damn regardless, despite knowing of the situation.

I mean, dirt in the panel? WTF?, and on several occasions, not just a one off. Go read, its long, and disturbing.

Then there is the ROG. Well, being an ASUS fan, let me just say, that I'm glad they don't have the same QC for their motherboards as do their monitors, else systems would be in shit everywhere.

I could understand if they were charging 'peanuts' for the hardware, like, you get what you pay for...blah..blah, but no, its FULL price (and then some), and you take your ticket for the panel lottery. ROLL UP, ROLL UP, lets see who the next lucky customer is to walk away happy, ticket 1382!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! money well spent, the other 10,000 hopefuls can fuck off!! Buy another ticket!

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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jun 2015 10:31    Post subject:
they are all overpriced except the MG279Q but that one lacks motion blur reduction/strobing and it has only FreeSync
they all have shitty QC, not only Acer, Asus, also Dell has a lot of crappy monitors lately and even Eizo monitors have shitty QC unless you get one of the models that cost a 4-figure sum

XR341CK Freesync version is only 75hz after all:
https://twitter.com/TFTCentral/status/613975919519223808
still some hope left for the G-sync version to be 100hz but wouldn't get my hopes up too soon
even if its 100hz, for 1200$ you'll probably end up with a glowing and bleeding nightmare because curve and ultrawide exacerbates these issues on IPS panels
like this beauty:
http://s1212.photobucket.com/user/hil67/media/IMG_1505.jpg.html

oh there is stil the VA panel left but not only does it lack higher resolution, adaptive sync and strobing, it is completely overpriced as well (999$ at newegg for the BenQ, even higher at some other places)
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2015 20:28    Post subject:
Funny thing is i still can't find any acer XB270HU here in Romania...

Fucking shit country fuckety fuck. Yeah buy a gtx 980ti to use it on what? Mongoloids.

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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2015 20:51    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
they are all overpriced except the MG279Q but that one lacks motion blur reduction/strobing and it has only FreeSync

You can't have strobing + VRR anyway, regardless of whether it's Adaptive Sync or G-Sync.

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even Eizo monitors have shitty QC unless you get one of the models that cost a 4-figure sum

FS2332, FS2333 and FG2421 here and all 3 are quite fine Razz

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still some hope left for the G-sync version to be 100hz but wouldn't get my hopes up too soon

It won't be. GS is limited by the panel's capabilities just like AS is. If the panel is incapable of dropping below X Hz or going above Y Hz, GS doesn't change that at all.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2015 21:26    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:

You can't have strobing + VRR anyway, regardless of whether it's Adaptive Sync or G-Sync.


True, but its still a nice option to have for some games.
Even though it dims the image significantly, on most monitors. Exception are the 24gm77b and your fg2421 - which you are really lucky to have a good version of btw. they are rare.
Don't need to mention the countless horror stories with that monitor
The already discontinued LQ235D1LW03 panel it uses has a huge incidence of bad batches and most of the good panels Eizo put in the 6000$ FDF2405W.
The FS2333 is a good monitor, still one of the best PLS out there and one of the few with a very light AG coating. Too bad it has 200hz PWM.
Monitors nowadays are not always that lucky but this is not necessarily the fault of Eizo etc. but the actual panel makers and shitty standards in their factories
So many panels have dirt in them recently for example
Also an increasing number of the cheaper IPS nowadays, no matter the brand, seem to have serious uniformity problems not only on black but also on white backgrounds (dark corners or a parasitic hue)

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It won't be. GS is limited by the panel's capabilities just like AS is. If the panel is incapable of dropping below X Hz or going above Y Hz, GS doesn't change that at all.


Yeah I thought so. Hmm..
The original rumour came from Acer Engineers claiming to have been able to overclock the panel to 100hz.
It is still possible they did not have time to implement it in the FreeSync version of the monitor, or they are deliberately holding it back for the more expensive G-Sync version (now named XR341CKA after all).
But maybe its more probable they simply failed at overclocking properly and the picture became unstable over time or skipped frames.
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Jul 2015 06:56    Post subject:
xb270hu is by far one of the best things ive bought, ever. you would need 2 980ti's though to consistently hit over 60 fps.
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Jul 2015 07:19    Post subject:
How about Dell U3415W? It's 60Hz only but still quite good monitor for random gaming.

After seeing these videos I just couldn't consider 16:9 anymore..








When you sit in front of these 21:9 immersion is from another planet compared to 16:9. It really is. It is also hard to understand it unless you try it for yourself. Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Jul 2015 18:54    Post subject:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_xr341ck.htm

I need gsync version like right now!!!


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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jul 2015 09:57    Post subject:
Well, got my XB270HU arriving today, the V2 model with supposedly better QC, and ULMB that now goes up to 120hz.

Fuckin dammed expensive bastard, most I've ever spent on a monitor, so we'll see Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jul 2015 01:22    Post subject:
And its going back lol!

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Fcukers! Taken for a ride... muthas! Mad


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jul 2015 05:09    Post subject:
Yup bud, a box as big as Jupiter, but my address label perfectly placed over what I wanted to know. Was suspicious right away, as I knew that V2 models range from MAY onwards at the very least (ideally you want a JUNE one), so was lookin out for the label on box, but nothing, lol! Laughing

Out with my little steamer Wink and off comes the address label, only to reveal what I already knew Smile

Trying to get rid of old stock I guess?, but not so with me fuckers. Wasn't born yesterday!

Return initiated, and @ £700 a shot, they can stick it up their ass! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jul 2015 09:17    Post subject:
The manufacturer code on the website for the V2 matches what's on the sticker but I guess that perhaps it's the same for the original model and the V2 ?

EDIT: Ah but of course, the manufacturing date. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jul 2015 10:05    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
Yup bud, a box as big as Jupiter, but my address label perfectly placed over what I wanted to know. Was suspicious right away, as I knew that V2 models range from MAY onwards at the very least (ideally you want a JUNE one), so was lookin out for the label on box, but nothing, lol! Laughing

Out with my little steamer Wink and off comes the address label, only to reveal what I already knew Smile

Trying to get rid of old stock I guess?, but not so with me fuckers. Wasn't born yesterday!

Return initiated, and @ £700 a shot, they can stick it up their ass! Very Happy

how do you know it's not V2?

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March and april date of factory have 120hz ULMB

from another forum
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Aug 2015 02:18    Post subject:
Unit replaced Smile June 2015 V2 Wink

144hz goodness, apart from the white orb, but I can live with that Laughing Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 20:18    Post subject:
I also just ordered a 980 ti so i've been researching monitors a bit (got a 24" IPS currently).

Anyone tried the Samsung S34E790C or any of the other Ultra Wide monitors? They dont have G-sync but i dont think i could care less about it, i'm not into fast shooters or racing + the games i will play at that resolution will hardly ever go over 60 FPS with just 1 980 ti anyways.

I also looked at LG 29UM55 which is dirt cheap, but i think it will be too small for ultrawide, basically a 24" + few added inches to the sides, 6bit color depth kind of sucks too, seems nice otherwise, for the price (280 euro or so).

How's support for 21:9? I guess its non-existant for old games, though i guess some can be "hacked"/edited to support it.

Edit: ordered the samsung!
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2015 19:38    Post subject:
lots of ultrawide 100hz and 144hz gaming monitors will be coming end of the year and mostly 2016, with so far 4 different panels to choose from

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/34.htm#auo_144hz
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/34.htm#acer_x34_100hz
http://twitter.com/TFTCentral/status/629586222558629888

a single displayport 1.2 does not have enough bandwidth for 3440x1440 @ 144hz
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