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noflip
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crap... now I have to buy a new PC.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 08:38 Post subject: |
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| noflip wrote: | | crap... now I have to buy a new PC. |
Why? The one you have is too powerful for F4? |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 08:42 Post subject: |
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Get a laptop for the true 900p@30fps Next Gen experience.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 09:10 Post subject: |
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Guys, we're dead. Don't know if it's been mentioned here but Xbone is getting mods like the PC version and PS4 wants in on it as well.
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 09:16 Post subject: |
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Good luck running any script heavy mods on the console. I bet texture mods will be out for them as well.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 09:20 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 09:21 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | Good luck running anything that requires compatibility patches generated by java, SKSE plugins, manual edits etc. |
I forgot about SKSE. That is a huge amount of stuff immediately unavailable. |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 09:22 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 09:24 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | Unless their new modding system no longer requires SKSE. But even then you have SKSE plugins.
But you can bet that more complex mods will require 3rd party software, like the bigger ones always do |
It would be nice if they added more of the functionality that has traditionally been part of script extenders.
But as you say, people always end up writing more functionality. |
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 09:26 Post subject: |
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That's why I think if they get mods, they will get paid mods. Bethesda saw a revenue generator on PC with this but PCmasterrace aren't as gullible as they thought.
Now they will do it on consoles because compatibility checks, "different architecture", "had to go through internal checks" etc. etc.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 11:53 Post subject: |
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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bethesda-on-new-fallout-mobile-game-this-is-not-ab/1100-6428276/
Bethesda on New Fallout Mobile Game: "This Is Not About Making Money"
"This is about getting Fallout out there."
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"It just shows that fans are smart; and if you give them something they think is fun, they probably reward the people who made it," Howard explained.
In other Fallout Shelter news, Bethesda has confirmed that an Android version is in the works and should be released in the coming months.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 11:56 Post subject: |
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I really have to wonder if there are enough of the mobile gamer derps that actually play Fallout Shelter. If they released it instead on PC/Steam as a non-f2p-shitgame, they probably would have made much more money.
And in "some months" i won't bother playing it anyway, when we have the real game
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 12:00 Post subject: |
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I will play the fallout shelter game. I would have played it now if it was available to me. I like having games on my phone, never had fallout themed one before.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 12:04 Post subject: |
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| EternalBlueScreen wrote: | | Bethesda on New Fallout Mobile Game: "This Is Not About Making Money" |
"But we are totally happily to monetise it by selling random loot packs for cold hard cash".
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 12:31 Post subject: |
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| DCB wrote: | | EternalBlueScreen wrote: | | Bethesda on New Fallout Mobile Game: "This Is Not About Making Money" |
"But we are totally happily to monetise it by selling random loot packs for cold hard cash". |
I understand there are no actual need to speed up loot drops by buying them, as there's no competitive online aspect as far as I've gathered info on it. In my opinion these games should be long haul experiences anyway, games where you sometimes check in to see how your Fallout shelter-ant farm thing is doing.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 12:31 Post subject: |
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| DCB wrote: | | EternalBlueScreen wrote: | | Bethesda on New Fallout Mobile Game: "This Is Not About Making Money" |
"But we are totally happily to monetise it by selling random loot packs for cold hard cash". |
IIRC Howard said that the game's gonna be completely free of charge, without any micro-transactions whatsoever.
| Frant wrote: | | Shitass games are ruining piracy. |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 12:32 Post subject: |
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| r3dshift wrote: | | DCB wrote: | | EternalBlueScreen wrote: | | Bethesda on New Fallout Mobile Game: "This Is Not About Making Money" |
"But we are totally happily to monetise it by selling random loot packs for cold hard cash". |
IIRC Howard said that the game's gonna be completely free of charge, without any micro-transactions whatsoever. |
Fallout Shelter is a free-to-play game; revenue comes from the sale of virtual lunchboxes that contain extra content. You can buy a single lunchbox for 99 cents or pay as much as $20 for a set of 40.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 12:33 Post subject: |
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BethesdaGameStudios
Bethesda Softworks @Bethblog 12 h12
From @BethesdaStudios' Todd Howard: Dogmeat cannot die #Fallout4 #BE3
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 12:37 Post subject: |
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| EternalBlueScreen wrote: | BethesdaGameStudios
Bethesda Softworks @Bethblog 12 h12
From @BethesdaStudios' Todd Howard: Dogmeat cannot die #Fallout4 #BE3 |
Not sure what's the big deal? If i remember correctly this was the case in FO3/FO:NV too, party members didn't die, they went unconscious (might be related to difficulty level, usually i play games on Normal). If he dies you'd just have to reload the game, not sure if that would enhance anything really..
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 12:39 Post subject: |
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Uhm I think most followers in NV could die. That's why the "companions-essential" mod was so popular.
I used it too because, while I liked that they could die, the AI is so bad that they got themselves killed with doing the stupidest shit ever way too often.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 12:41 Post subject: |
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| EternalBlueScreen wrote: | | You can buy a single lunchbox for 99 cents or pay as much as $20 for a set of 40. |
Which is why the whole "not for money" thing is such disingenuous bullshit. I have no problem with a developer making money for a game, it's a business like any other, but they should just slap a one-off price tag on it and be done with it. The only reason this is an iOS mobile game is because they know they can make shitloads from in-app purchases. The reason the Android version will come later is because metrics show that Play Store games generate substantially less revenue. If they were really genuinely interested in giving away a free game, they would have launched it on all platforms (including PC and console) simultaneously, and without the in-app purchases.
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 12:41 Post subject: |
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| m3th0d2008 wrote: | | Uhm I think most followers in NV could die. That's why the "companions-essential" mod was so popular. |
In hardcore mode they die, otherwise unconscious.
Had to google it hehe.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 12:47 Post subject: |
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Say what? When i played new vegas last time, the sniper companion's head exploded. And i don't play on anything but normal difficulty.
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Epsilon
Dr. Strangelove
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Jun 2015 12:54 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | Unless their new modding system no longer requires SKSE. But even then you have SKSE plugins, so if a more advanced script extender is needed with those...
But you can bet that more complex mods will require 3rd party software, like the bigger ones always do |
Yep. Script extender team is anxiously waiting to get working on Fallout 4 as well. New script extender will be called FASE 
All script extenders so far have been binaries, and no way in hell the console will run that, as it would open it up for exploits. |
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