What do you think of this attitude? [ARMA3]
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 13:28    Post subject:
SaOk wrote:
Do you seriously think the big name jury tested 30 finalists properly? That they didnt give more value for image than long run content. And you dont see anything strange of what finalists they picked for MP. There were high supported entries like MCC4 (making possible to create endless high detailed stuff in real time) dropping and very low supported tiny PvP consept stuff making in finals. (you need to check those yourself since I dont want to point any specific entry since its not their fault)

I found here because the link was posted in my thread.

If you throw dice there is certain odds for each number. If you divide community randomly they vote the same. Community was exactly for who the entries were made. If jury would be seeking the best stuff for the game, they would end up near the same result unless they dont know what they are doing. With jury the idea is to drop possible buyed votes entries away and solve the order between very similar voted entries. My entry lost for entries even having 1.5-2.6x more votes. That shows the jury was poor. Of course the winners are now picked. I dont have any right to get anything, but I just dont swallow that without commenting since there was so much heavy work I did for year in massive stress.

Just wanted to post why I was leaving, but then again you continued this hate thread here. I might be bit confusing to get my point. I am not the most social type, people have sometimes hard time to follow me in reallife too. But still I believe I am not totally insane with my thoughts. I think I have a point, I hope you would see it. Dont just follow the flow.

Interinactive, mention 20 missionbugs. Its not that the all posts with bugs are the bugs that are still there.



'Hate thread'

Seriously... are you a millennial?
People these days... the moment someone criticizes it's considered hate. Grow a fucking spine.
Or did that only happen with people from the 80's and before? Razz




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Interinactive
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 13:28    Post subject:
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harry_theone




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 13:56    Post subject:
@SaOk You making comments here changes what exactly again? Laughing Laughing The jury and BIS will read this for sure here, on this special forum. They will apologize and give you everything from place 1 to 3.
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 14:10    Post subject:
harry_theone wrote:
@SaOk You making comments here changes what exactly again? Laughing Laughing The jury and BIS will read this for sure here, on this special forum. They will apologize and give you everything from place 1 to 3.


Now Now, don't be like that. He can discuss it as much as he wants over here. I do agree, it won't change much... but that doesn't really matter. Smile


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Saner




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 14:58    Post subject:
i think we shoukd all get drunk and beeeeeee friends.


*dibs on the lube*


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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Saner




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 14:59    Post subject:
i can even get some fosters for the ausies i hear they love the stuff


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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SaOk




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 15:01    Post subject:
You keep blaiming and ingoring everything I write. And not still giving any example of the 100s bugs in WLA. Feel free to believe what you want. Keep your retarted club here freely.

Its not critizieing to throw lies and call people names. You are just punch of simple bullies having fun. Wanted to post my points here in respect but you just have some strange act going here. You must be naive, jealous or extreme stupid.
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 15:02    Post subject:
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Saner




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 15:04    Post subject:
bah you shoul try some real beer




ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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SaOk




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 15:07    Post subject:
You say its not insulting to lie in 1st post that I would have said people to start harrasing the jury?
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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 15:09    Post subject:
Lets go bowlin'
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SaOk




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 15:18    Post subject:
Of course its unrealistic that they would change the result. Its 100% final, i dont seek any recounting and be raised to winner. Just saying the way the jury part went looked extreme poor for me. This wasnt few day competition to win t-shirts. People could have invested a lot of money to their project. Of course that wouldnt make it better, but BIS should had kept the competition going as fair as possible.

If you remember ArmA2, there the ACRE was very popular. Now in this competition the addon category was won by copy of that mod only with different 3d models. Even one unnamed BIS dev saw that strange. Orginal deadline was reopened to allow RHS to compete. In MP winner one entry havent published the project code that is also against the rules. Authors of ALIVE mentioned their entry wasnt tested in dedicated server. I saw BIS guys testing my WLA MP 5 minutes in SWEC (still yes, possible there was some other sessions). All MP finalist were basically PvP. Not suspicisous there wasnt entries that would have been hard to test? Thats not sloppy or anything strange.


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SaOk




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 15:20    Post subject:
Yes, I didnt want to continue supporting the company after the farce unless they admit the poor jury work. Just said people could support but POLITELY. Not sure what that means in your country.

Still I apogolized that bit later as went bit too far, but you just keep going.
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SaOk




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 15:33    Post subject:
Nobody forced, but you could expect a proper competition where jury really take a look of the entries. And without some unrelated folks throwing the points.

Yes, if the BIS didnt see anything wrong - I wanted to stop supporting them. Its very simple. I dont see what bad is in that. Its like you have some right keep me somewhere you want. You keep thinking you are 100% right in everything.
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SaOk




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 15:36    Post subject:
The motive was the poor unrelated jury and the clear poor choices how MP finalist where picked.
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 15:44    Post subject:
As a completely unbiased spectator, the most rational advice would be that you just forget everything happened and continue working on your mod. People forgive and forget.

Otherwise, best to just lay low and come back to modding under a different name and a new project.

Because your behavior post competition, from an objective spectator perspective that never played any of the mods entered, does not speak well of your character at all.

Seriously, I know that in your mind it all makes sense, but take a strangers advice, you ruined your reputation with your behavior, reputation that can very likely never be fully restored, unless you completely start over under a new nickname.

You reacted poorly, and that can't change, but you attitude and your actions from now on can.


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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 15:44    Post subject:
Why do you still hold such a deep grudge, even after all this time, to discuss it on a "random" forum with "random" people. That's so energy consuming and self-destructive...

EDIT: Its like arguing with a creationist...


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harry_theone




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 15:48    Post subject:
SaOk wrote:
Keep your retarted club here freely.

Its not critizieing to throw lies and call people names.


So you're insulting me even though I didn't ever say anything to your face? How inappropriate of you. Then again you wrote 'retarded' wrong, so I'm asking you again who the retard here is?

@Interinactive Stop bothering with him, it's obvious where he wants to go, I've seen people like this on reddit all the time, they discuss and discuss trying to prove you wrong at some point once you make a mistake and won't give in to anything you say. Just look at his constant longer texts, he cares more about someone being wrong on a forum than he cares taking care of his own shit and blaming others for it.
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SaOk




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 16:07    Post subject:
Came here to see Interinactive had continue his postings. Else were already moved on, just helping out WLA players in the mission thread. You miss the point if you think I return with some other project for arma.

Proper competition is where all have equal changes. Not where you are supposed to have some certain gamemode type that wasnt requested in competition rules. They should keep the announced criterias how they vote. Not change it after the deadline.

Why dont you want to see Interinactive listing even few of the bugs he thinks WLA have? You have picked your side and keeping it without any free will.

Typos dont make a retard.

Just want to defend myself against Interinactive's misleading posts.
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harry_theone




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 16:23    Post subject:
It's a fucking contest, people win and people lose, sometimes justified, sometimes not, fucking hell what's the issue being so hurt about it?

It's like you missed out on a 10 million winning lottery ticket, wtf. You came here because you cared about Inter's posts, nothing else, you discuss in lengths to prove your point for winning an argument on the hump, CONGRATS

I never played anything in that direction of ARMA except for DayZ, so it's not like I cared a lot. I picked a side? Yea because I read that shit you said and I've seen your kinds on reddit already, 'oh no I'm always right and life is unfair and you suck dickballs!!!' You called everyone on here a retard and expect ANYONE to agree with you? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Go and defend yourself, I enjoy this, I forget 95% of what this discussion is about anyway, it's just keyboard typing practice to me Aww Yeah
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SaOk




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 16:28    Post subject:
There have been 400 updates for WLA SP and over 100 MP, you think I dont care my own bugs?

Hurt because the spent 1 year for the sloppy competition. I am sure you would take it calm with similar vote ratio.

But cya.
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 16:30    Post subject:
@SaOk I think this is also showing the pitfalls of modmaking, you have probably spent a lifetime building this thing and wanted some recognition, reward or money for your creation. Unfortunately those things don't go hand in hand with mods, BIS just don't owe you anything even if they did half ass Judge this competition for PR.

I suspect the original modders of CS, Dota and Dayz probably made nothing with their mods even though the mods were likely more successful than the original titles they were based off. It took follow up games or they were employed for their efforts with mixed success, look at what happened with Minh Lee (CS)

Point is, your best bet is to probably start making your own game or use your experience to get a job doing something you can get paid for if this isn't working out for you.
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harry_theone




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 16:42    Post subject:
@SaOk You keep on using the Bugs argument which I didn't even mention ONCE, seriously, fuck off with your bullshit argument tactic Laughing Please don't come back.
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SaOk




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 16:45    Post subject:
AmpegV4, you are right. I just expected more which was a mistake. Basically my own fault, but I cant jump back to old and support them. I thought they cared more than they did making me a fool. I am only over this when not thinking, so need to continue the hobby elsewhere. So far unreal engine 4 have been it.

Sorry for the earlier retard comment. If someone took it bad and was not in bully mode, I didnt meant it for you. I just get angry fast if I see people grouping to bully someone. There is nothing worst than that.

"he cares taking care of his own shit" I though, this was about the bugs in WLA.
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ZezoS




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 16:54    Post subject:
So the topic refer to someone that lost a modding contest on Arma III and then said it wasn't fair cause he didn't win. Then said he would not mod again cause the world refused to bend and give him the prize.
Am i missing something here that's stopping me of making some sense of the situation?
Laughing
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SaOk




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 17:03    Post subject:
I just believe I didnt get fair change to compete from same line as other entries. If community would have liked much less my stuff, I would be silent. This is of course bit against the normal behaviour, but didnt want to stay silent since it also brought big shadow over my hobby. I think my extreme good changes and long work were just ingored.
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Namarie




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 19:58    Post subject:
I dont even..
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