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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 10:31    Post subject:
did those people always exist or did this happen in the last 2 years or so? :S

It makes me so damn angry, that I''d want to punch them till their head is a red pulp on the ground.

A voice of reason against that neogaf thread, that has its text based on logic and not some SJW lies and shit:
https://medium.com/@adrianchm/on-the-witcher-3-and-racial-quotas-in-art-e6a9f594439


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zibztrollingme




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 11:13    Post subject:
They always existed but since nobody gave a shit about them it didn't matter. But the politically correct climate is always trying to find new ways to spread and right now it's gaming. And the reason it's becoming a thing is that it's spearheaded by a bunch of these "progressive" gaming media outlets blowing everything out of proportion.

And in turn more idiots think they suddenly matter so more idiots come from under the rock they've been hiding this whole time.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 11:21    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1057365

Go on

I dare you


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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 11:22    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
did those people always exist or did this happen in the last 2 years or so? :S

It makes me so damn angry, that I''d want to punch them till their head is a red pulp on the ground.

A voice of reason against that neogaf thread, that has its text based on logic and not some SJW lies and shit:
https://medium.com/@adrianchm/on-the-witcher-3-and-racial-quotas-in-art-e6a9f594439

It's mass hysteria that originates from the US. Problem is the internet allows everyone to consume everything; whether it be culture, issues or political agendas.
It all started with a couple of journalists fornicating with one developer, who's only claim to fame was a game about depression she made in a ready made "Make your own game" program. And then lying about having any relations with the developer when giving the game high praise in their reviews.
And instead successfully diverting the focus of the mainstream, through their parent companies massive media control, onto 'racial, gender or general intolerance issues'.
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zibztrollingme




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 11:26    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
kazemaky wrote:
did those people always exist or did this happen in the last 2 years or so? :S

It makes me so damn angry, that I''d want to punch them till their head is a red pulp on the ground.

A voice of reason against that neogaf thread, that has its text based on logic and not some SJW lies and shit:
https://medium.com/@adrianchm/on-the-witcher-3-and-racial-quotas-in-art-e6a9f594439

It's mass hysteria that originates from the US. Problem is the internet allows everyone to consume everything; whether it be culture, issues or political agendas.
It all started with a couple of journalists fornicating with one developer, who's only claim to fame was a game about depression she made in a ready made "Make your own game" program. And then lying about having any relations with the developer when giving the game high praise in their reviews.
And instead successfully diverting the focus of the mainstream, through their parent companies massive media control, onto 'racial, gender or general intolerance issues'.


Yeah but this movement originates somewhere else. I'm not sure if the hipsters started it (doubt it) but it's a sentiment I've generally noticed in the areas populated by alot of hipsters.
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 11:31    Post subject:
zibztrollingme wrote:
Epsilon wrote:
kazemaky wrote:
did those people always exist or did this happen in the last 2 years or so? :S

It makes me so damn angry, that I''d want to punch them till their head is a red pulp on the ground.

A voice of reason against that neogaf thread, that has its text based on logic and not some SJW lies and shit:
https://medium.com/@adrianchm/on-the-witcher-3-and-racial-quotas-in-art-e6a9f594439

It's mass hysteria that originates from the US. Problem is the internet allows everyone to consume everything; whether it be culture, issues or political agendas.
It all started with a couple of journalists fornicating with one developer, who's only claim to fame was a game about depression she made in a ready made "Make your own game" program. And then lying about having any relations with the developer when giving the game high praise in their reviews.
And instead successfully diverting the focus of the mainstream, through their parent companies massive media control, onto 'racial, gender or general intolerance issues'.


Yeah but this movement originates somewhere else. I'm not sure if the hipsters started it (doubt it) but it's a sentiment I've generally noticed in the areas populated by alot of hipsters.

It's true, social justice warrior movement started on tumblr and blogs. They've moved into heavy metal now as well, writing long letters to various bands critisizing them for lack of inclusivity or being only a male white band. One particular band was critisized for being homophobic and "non inclusive", that band was Judas Priest. Their lead singer is gay.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 11:39    Post subject:
holy shit judas priest
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Muki




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 11:45    Post subject:
zibztrollingme wrote:
Epsilon wrote:
kazemaky wrote:
did those people always exist or did this happen in the last 2 years or so? :S

It makes me so damn angry, that I''d want to punch them till their head is a red pulp on the ground.

A voice of reason against that neogaf thread, that has its text based on logic and not some SJW lies and shit:
https://medium.com/@adrianchm/on-the-witcher-3-and-racial-quotas-in-art-e6a9f594439

It's mass hysteria that originates from the US. Problem is the internet allows everyone to consume everything; whether it be culture, issues or political agendas.
It all started with a couple of journalists fornicating with one developer, who's only claim to fame was a game about depression she made in a ready made "Make your own game" program. And then lying about having any relations with the developer when giving the game high praise in their reviews.
And instead successfully diverting the focus of the mainstream, through their parent companies massive media control, onto 'racial, gender or general intolerance issues'.


Yeah but this movement originates somewhere else. I'm not sure if the hipsters started it (doubt it) but it's a sentiment I've generally noticed in the areas populated by alot of hipsters.


I thought it comes from the Bay Area in the USA and in general from the extreme/Marxist left associated with 1968.
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zibztrollingme




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 12:17    Post subject:
Muki wrote:
zibztrollingme wrote:
Epsilon wrote:

It's mass hysteria that originates from the US. Problem is the internet allows everyone to consume everything; whether it be culture, issues or political agendas.
It all started with a couple of journalists fornicating with one developer, who's only claim to fame was a game about depression she made in a ready made "Make your own game" program. And then lying about having any relations with the developer when giving the game high praise in their reviews.
And instead successfully diverting the focus of the mainstream, through their parent companies massive media control, onto 'racial, gender or general intolerance issues'.


Yeah but this movement originates somewhere else. I'm not sure if the hipsters started it (doubt it) but it's a sentiment I've generally noticed in the areas populated by alot of hipsters.


I thought it comes from the Bay Area in the USA and in general from the extreme/Marxist left associated with 1968.


Might be. Bay Area is full of hipsters and hipster wannabes.

I haven't researched this topic so I cannot act as a know it all but I have noticed that many SJW and many hipsters have things in common so I wouldn't be too surprised of SJW is a derivative of hipsters (and yeah they love their tumblr's and blogs)
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 12:21    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:

It's true, social justice warrior movement started on tumblr and blogs. They've moved into heavy metal now as well, writing long letters to various bands critisizing them for lack of inclusivity or being only a male white band. One particular band was critisized for being homophobic and "non inclusive", that band was Judas Priest. Their lead singer is gay.


Holy shit
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Yuri




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 12:29    Post subject:
Oh Neoshit can piss off. I've started visiting www.n4g.com instead. It's just a gaming news collection site but atleast I don't have to read shit about someone eating breakfast and getting triggered by looking at the Kellogg's Rooster because he doesn't wear clothes.



1 and 2 are still amazing.


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WaldoJ
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 12:50    Post subject:
sometimes it's fun reading what a bunch of idiots write.
for amusement and research.

Everytime I go on neogaf, fox news, cnn, glp - the need to have kids grow up in a world like this shrinks. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 18:27    Post subject:
We had female Thor, now we have female Wolverine. Facepalm

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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 18:33    Post subject:
It's Marvel... why isn't she black? Scratch Head
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 19:28    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
zibztrollingme wrote:
Epsilon wrote:

It's mass hysteria that originates from the US. Problem is the internet allows everyone to consume everything; whether it be culture, issues or political agendas.
It all started with a couple of journalists fornicating with one developer, who's only claim to fame was a game about depression she made in a ready made "Make your own game" program. And then lying about having any relations with the developer when giving the game high praise in their reviews.
And instead successfully diverting the focus of the mainstream, through their parent companies massive media control, onto 'racial, gender or general intolerance issues'.


Yeah but this movement originates somewhere else. I'm not sure if the hipsters started it (doubt it) but it's a sentiment I've generally noticed in the areas populated by alot of hipsters.

It's true, social justice warrior movement started on tumblr and blogs. They've moved into heavy metal now as well, writing long letters to various bands critisizing them for lack of inclusivity or being only a male white band. One particular band was critisized for being homophobic and "non inclusive", that band was Judas Priest. Their lead singer is gay.

Haha, screaming monkeys typing random words on a PC, 100% clueless and untrained. The usual Very Happy

You know that society will come to an end when stupidity instead of being ridiculized or even better ignored, is taken seriously and openly accepted as worthy opinion.
I miss when these people were into their fictional pseudo-circlejerking and didn't interact with our beloved world, this is one of those highly disruptive 'invasions' that once they occur, you really can never go back :<
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Yuri




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 20:37    Post subject:
Why is that female wolverine twerking with her claws out? Laughing



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 21:41    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 23:00    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
We had female Thor, now we have female Wolverine. Facepalm

Kurwa pls...
Welcome to 200...2 or 3, I guess?
It's just that they've given her a new suit and are now bringing her to the forefront (and the fact that she's not in the FOX movies really, REALLY helps. Along with the usual SJW pandering, of course).

Only thing I dislike about the look is the flowing hair, that looks real dumb on a character that fights up close to its enemies Neutral


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FastMemFirst




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2015 01:25    Post subject:
Ignorance. Get some.

This thread is on top of page 1 since weeks. Thats the problem of the whole thing.

The net is full of attention-whores. Ignorance is the only logic answer.
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2015 02:10    Post subject:
FastMemFirst wrote:
Ignorance. Get some.

This thread is on top of page 1 since weeks. Thats the problem of the whole thing.

The net is full of attention-whores. Ignorance is the only logic answer.

Thats how I approach it, I mean not to suggest "ignore it and it will go away" solution. Just somethings dont need attention at all.
I still believe these people have power, because people give them it by talking about them and arguing with them.
And negative attention is still attention.

The prefect example is that tweet the one guy made that no one cared about, and didn't amount to anything, but anita tweets it and its popular because of all the people that want to point out shes wrong.
These people wouldn't have all this power, if people would stop making it seem like they are important.
People have known this for centuries, make something mundane into a point people can argue against, and it makes that product popular, even if its only because people want to stop it.

Like above important because they are sooo wrong, or important because they are sooo right, still makes them 'important'.


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2015 02:29    Post subject:
Like how that monday song became insanely famous or should i say infamous because all the people that wanted to see how terrible it was and comment on it.
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2015 03:08    Post subject:
I don't know which 'monday' song you mean, but when I think of one it's:

And I quite like it. Razz


Only thing I can think of that was so fucking terrible everyone was bleeting about it was a 'Friday' song.


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Or this? Poor old men, they sweat like pigs Smile anyway i am sure both are not the songs he meant. They are classics!
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2015 11:01    Post subject:
But if everyone ignored the game media people, instead of bowing to them..they are powerless.

Maybe its my point of view, Ive been gaming since early 90's and never had a need or even desire for 'game journalism'. No part of my hobby of gaming needs them. So when they start causing problems I just see it is "who are you again? oh yea, bloggers that want to seem 'I R serious newz reportz' types..move along now...shoo". Gaming was around before them, changed the world without them, and will be here despite them. Them being the fox news of the gaming news world means nothing(to me).

Im not saying gamergate and SJW thing isnt obviously a problem that needs addressing..I just think we are addressing it wrong. Nothing in any part of whats wrong is a "must have" for the industry, but people are treating it like its a house of cards and removing one makes it all collapse. Nothing in gaming is "too big to fail"..and I think people have that confused. There is no company, publisher, etc that will take it all down when they go bankrupt, it will be a small whimper, not a huge bang like people make it out to be if one died. So instead of fighting them to fix it to what you want, just stop doing business with them (start ignoring them)..simple.
They cant survives on the niche SJW gaming group alone. Kickstarter and the tons of indy games made by them that flopped shows that.

When people go "OMG they are ruining gaming".
I think "Only because people are letting them..its the epitome of a market whos fate is in the hands of the consumers quit going to the sites that pay them, simple, no publisher will want anything to do with them if being tied to them LOSES sales. Why are you letting these people have control again? OH yea because somehow people keep confusing gaming journalism as 'srs bzns'".

Gaming journalism is an optional need. In all actually its an optional need, on coverage of a hobby..
Its not food, water, shelter..that someone can control with an iron fist and the masses 'need' it so they have to deal with who controls it. No ones life will be less if they didn't consume the stuff they create. Their jobs are literally in our hand and our whim to let them have that job.
If anything, with it being such a fluff industry of reporting on a spare time and hobby activity..it makes it all that much easier to tell them "You have no power here" regardless if they have 1 or 10000 followers.

I think instead of telling them they need to stop..because you know they wont.
We need to be telling indy devs, AAA devs, gaming conventions, and publishers to stop being such pussies. Until they do that, there is no hope. Easily swayed and bribed people will always have it done to them. SJW aside, someone else would be doing it.

To put it another way, its not the few grains of sand in the shoe that's causing the problem. its the people wearing the shoes limping along dealing with the sand instead of just getting rid of it, because they say they cant walk at all without shoes.
SJW's are the westboro church of the gaming world.. and until we start treating them like it, and ingoring them like it, they will have power. WBC people look at and go 'you are making noise, but we dont care because your just acting retarded, we are going on with our lives..you keep thinking your doing something important, ok?".

Again, I can see the big deal here. I really can. I just cant see the big unsolvable problem.
Gaming is like fast food, you dont like what someone serves, stop going there.Like indy devs losing to favoritism..If you dont like what their food is doing to the population on a whole, why would you goto them for a grant to goto cooking school?


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2015 13:18    Post subject:
The problem I see with people who say that one should avoid giving any sort of attention to attention whores is that they assume that other people are just as intelligent and capable of seeing through the bullshit as they are, when sadly the reality is hardly like that.

Most people don't really look into things and just go with whatever seems socially acceptable and allow their minds to be made up for them. When the aforementioned attention whores can congregate and coordinate on social media they are able to create the illusion of a moral majority, which a lot of people follow out of a herd instinct, even when there is no real heard to begin with, just a few stupid assholes. If you add like-minded media outlets into the mix they act like a multiplier, amplifying their nonsense immortalizing it in the public record and making mountains out of molehills.

This is how the completely bogus 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 rape statistic became so widely accepted that it is being flung around by actual law makers and driving legislation. I have no doubt that there were a lot of smart people who said that this is so stupid that they wont even argue against it...and now it is a household fact anyway...

I have a similar response to the people who argue that the whole Sarkeesian situation is the fault of gamers themselves who gave her all the attention she needed and elevated her to the level of a spokesperson for every woman in games ever. I think this is inconsequential, because when the games media are tuned in and sympathetic to the "cause" only a handful of trolls is enough to blow up and fabricate the whole misogyny narrative from nigh thin air.

So in my view the best way to fight back is to ridicule the attention whores, make their views and the nonsense they spew akin to punchlines, creating a new moral majority of our own that people will follow. And in turn companies will follow the people, it never happens the other way around because thats just smart PR.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2015 15:03    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
I don't know which 'monday' song you mean, but when I think of one it's:

And I quite like it. Razz


Only thing I can think of that was so fucking terrible everyone was bleeting about it was a 'Friday' song.


My mistake, meant "Friday" Razz
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jun 2015 21:36    Post subject:
Tankistas wrote:

So in my view the best way to fight back is to ridicule the attention whores, make their views and the nonsense they spew akin to punchlines, creating a new moral majority of our own that people will follow. And in turn companies will follow the people, it never happens the other way around because thats just smart PR.

Thats what Im getting at the an extent. But not ridicule them..but the people that are taught better than to support them , but still do.
Trying to stop these people by arguing with them, and fighting them just makes them realize they are doing something worth getting attention and are gaining traction, so they will keep it up.

Think Westboro church, SJW, ect ect..since when has pointing out how retarded they are acting has helped make them slow down? All it does is make them angry that people dont understand their point and try harder to push it while claiming the ones attacking them are the reason for their cause.
No where is history has ridiculing a hate group made them go "Oh we didn't realize we was so abrasive, we will tone it down". SO why would it work here? Only when they lost an audience to preach to do they run out of steam to try.

We need to start fighting and arguing with the ones that are passively perpetuating it, not the ones causing it.

Like a class clown, a teacher first tries to get them to stop by singling them out and talking about them, which just makes them succeed because they have all eyes on them when the teacher ask them to stop.
So the teacher uses the better tactic of never acknowledging them directly, but acknowledge the rest of the class to stop encouraging them. Singling out others that are looking at him and telling THEM to stop.

Or like a kid kicking and screaming on the floor, ignoring them, and teaching the people around you "no stop talking to them, and ignore them..they are just wanting the attention". Once you get everyone in the room to stop paying attention, the kids tantrum stops, as he has no audience.

So I still stand by ignoring them as the solution, but also mean in turn teaching those that don't know better to also while doing it. No amount of trying to fix it will fix it by asking them to kindly stop, and fighting them on twitter and tumblr will do any good. Again this industry of gaming/gaming journalism income comes from exporser and mass attention..Fighting them directly gives them both, they have their cake and eat it too.


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