The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
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Nui
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:08    Post subject:
Supermax2004 wrote:
Washed out textures....man THAT is mostly the pic-video quality let's just wait for the real dick image on our holy pcs. Or are you 100% sure all the textures are worse than hairy nipples for example?

Why dont you talk like a person?
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:10    Post subject:
Tomorrow we'll get a CGI trailer well that is....questionable and suboptimal after the downgrade debate. Goddamn dickfaces.....
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:11    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
4treyu wrote:
Wait, wait, wait... oh dear... Are you sure you're not confusing me with someone else Sabin? You keep putting words in my mouth. Where did I mention "youtube compression"? Very Happy


I'm not confusing you with anyone and if you think I'm going to spend my time digging through all your bullshit in this thread to find the posts where you brush aside lousy image quality with "crappy screenshots" or "bad YT vids" excuses (not direct quotes, just in case you feel like being even more pedantic) -- then you're very much mistaken Wink

Nui wrote:
Supermax2004 wrote:
Washed out textures....man THAT is mostly the pic-video quality let's just wait for the real dick image on our holy pcs. Or are you 100% sure all the textures are worse than hairy nipples for example?

Why dont you talk like a person?


Yeah, I've put it off for far too long but I'm tired of reading "dick" this and "dick" that, he's like a fucking child. Time to join everyone else and put him on ignore.


You seem really angry man judging by the way you're expressing, let's just leave at that. If you want we'll discuss when you're calmer. and if you don't want, it's fine too!
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:11    Post subject:
@Nui He can't. And obviously he doesn't know about the downsized textures I've posted about with my Review copy pages ago either.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:12    Post subject:
No let's not discuss textures at all that's a good way to start by relaxing and breathing!
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:12    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
You seem really angry man judging by the way you're expressing, let's just leave at that. If you want we'll discuss when you're calmer. and if you don't want, it's fine too!


I'm genuinely not, I assure you, I have absolutely no anger or aggression or ill-feeling. Like I said, I find most of it amusing Smile I type umm... "directly" and without sweetening or sugar-coating anything.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:14    Post subject:
Tomorrow we'll get comparison pics between the CGI trailer and some pixelated pics from a few days ago god help us all
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:15    Post subject:
Everything is decided by proportions, IMO. I've never encountered a game that wouldn't look ugly from time to time - especially when it's utilising stuff like day/night cycle and dynamic weather, instead of hand-crafting every scene and stopping time to fit the mood (nuoBioware style) - that can change lighting drasticaly. When a game is beautiful 9/10 and suffers a few ugly scenes, it's hard (and rather unjust, tbh, but maybe that's just me) to treat those single scenes as a benchmark of overall quality. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be mentioned, of course. And yeah, water seems to be better now. One thing I can say, however: I definitely dislike the piss fliter they employed. Can't see a good reason for that, I'd prefer a more realistic color palette.

Also, the PS4 live (as in: moving, video) footage looks pretty good too. For PS4, of course, but still - it's certainly not bad.

On another note: I like how they approached 'open world' in a different kind of way. Basicly, it's like the scale is different than in games like Skyrim of Fallout. They're not trying to pass a few square miles as a whole kingdom in a sort of a scaled bubble - instead, they're trying to believably (or at least more believably - since the scale is obviously still not 1:1) recreate a certain part of it. That seems to be the main reason for the huge terrain - it's not meant as an entertainment park full of stuff behind every corner. More like it's just there for the world to feel real. I guess it might be a problem for some of the TES fans (as some reviews point out), but I really like that, it reminds me of Gothics.


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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:17    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
Mister_s wrote:
How is Polish "original"? Do we have real Witchers who speak Polish?

The original script is polish, so the rest gets a translation. That alone will make me try the polish audio if I can.


Funnily enough - they've stated somewhere, long time ago, that the game is written in Polish with English voices in mind - and translated to English and other languages afterwards. English voiceovers are recorded first, then Polish ones are "based" on them. Still, Witcher books being Polish and based on our culture/myths, references are more likely to be caught by Polish people.

As far as I remember, it was the same with W2.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:19    Post subject:
sabin is a wizard who sees through time
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:19    Post subject:
You know what's the saddest part in all of this? Comments like "looks good enough for PS4/Xbox" will be understandable, even though the consoles are barely 1.5 years old Sad

edit: the IGN stream looks beautiful IMO.


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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:20    Post subject:
Aquma wrote:
On another note: I like how they approached 'open world' in a different kind of way. Basicly, it's like the scale is different than in games like Skyrim of Fallout. They're not trying to pass a few square miles as a whole kingdom in a sort of a scaled bubble - instead, they're trying to believably (or at least more believably - since the scale is obviously still not 1:1) recreate a certain part of it. That seems to be the main reason for the huge terrain - it's not meant as an entertainment park full of stuff behind every corner. More like it's just there for the world to feel real. I guess it might be a problem for some of the TES fans (as some reviews point out), but I really like that, it reminds me of Gothics.


This I absolutely agree with completely. My only complaints so far have been about the downgrade and it's not because the game now looks ugly, because it doesn't, it's simply in comparison to what they sold us on originally.. but that's it. As for the gameplay itself? The world construction? The design and scope? YES PLEASE. That has looked and sounded amazing from the start and it's certainly not changing now, I cannot wait until I'm able to play and really sink into it, just like W1 and W2.

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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:21    Post subject:
@harry_theone, apparently Surprised

4treyu wrote:
You seem really angry man judging by the way you're expressing, let's just leave at that.

To be fair, thats just your judgement based on text alone Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:22    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Yeah, I've put it off for far too long but I'm tired of reading "dick" this and "dick" that, he's like a fucking child. Time to join everyone else and put him on ignore.

It won't work because people just love quoting him for some reason Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:23    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
@harry_theone, apparently Surprised

4treyu wrote:
You seem really angry man judging by the way you're expressing, let's just leave at that.

To be fair, thats just your judgement based on text alone Wink


That's why I said "seem". No way to be sure, just to suspect Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:31    Post subject:
sanchin wrote:
Funnily enough - they've stated somewhere, long time ago, that the game is written in Polish with English voices in mind - and translated to English and other languages afterwards. English voiceovers are recorded first, then Polish ones are "based" on them.

That sounds a bit crazy, but makes sense if you consider the english voice actors better or something

sanchin wrote:
Still, Witcher books being Polish and based on our culture/myths, references are more likely to be caught by Polish people.

yeah... that will be lost on me anyhow. Its not like anime where you get giant hints explaining wtf just happened Razz


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That's why I said "seem". No way to be sure, just to suspect Wink

True. To be sure noone thinks im hard on anything, I use many smileys Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:33    Post subject:
@Sauronich and 4treyu ignores everyone doing that, ignoreception, we all end up ignoring eachother and threads will never have any convos again Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:34    Post subject:
Ok, there's one asset that looks bad in some areas so far, the grass. Why is it so blurred?

harry_theone wrote:
@Sauronich and 4treyu ignores everyone doing that, ignoreception, we all end up ignoring eachother and threads will never have any convos again Laughing


I only have 2 people on ignore actually Razz And 2 is the most I've ever had simultaneously.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:41    Post subject:
If anyone is interested, they just went through the graphics menu. Apparently not everything was on (AA, HBAO, Hairworks and Sharpening were off), don't know why (too demanding?):

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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:43    Post subject:
Well yes, those usually are the most demanding settings. I know that I'm gonna enable HBAo no matter what. Can't live without it in any game Razz

Also, something tells me "sharpening" is a disguise name for the infamous ubersampling? hence the probable performance hit.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:46    Post subject:
Sauronich wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Yeah, I've put it off for far too long but I'm tired of reading "dick" this and "dick" that, he's like a fucking child. Time to join everyone else and put him on ignore.

It won't work because people just love quoting him for some reason Sad


I actually noticed he's getting less and less quoted. Almost like in the past week even more people put him on ignore! Good times!


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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:47    Post subject:
Nobody can take that spam, man!

Unless it's your job Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:48    Post subject:
The_Leaf wrote:
If anyone is interested, they just went through the graphics menu. Apparently not everything was on (AA, HBAO, Hairworks and Sharpening were off), don't know why (too demanding?):



AA "on/off" is PPAA, so that shouldn't be intensive at all, though it will blur everything Sad If it was a hardware AA option it would have stages, rather than a toggle switch. Right?
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:49    Post subject:
The_Leaf wrote:
If anyone is interested, they just went through the graphics menu. Apparently not everything was on (AA, HBAO, Hairworks and Sharpening were off), don't know why (too demanding?):


The hope for non-flat looking HBAO'd grass lives on! Very Happy
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Also, something tells me "sharpening" is a disguise name for the infamous ubersampling? hence the probable performance hit.

Nah, I think it's literally just the sharpening filter that was present in the earlier footage/screenshots (and also in TW2).
Morphineus wrote:

I actually noticed he's getting less and less quoted. Almost like in the past week even more people put him on ignore! Good times!

Someone should really make an extension that will automatically replace Supermax's posts with Shakespeare quotes. You know, the nuclear "only way to be sure" option Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:51    Post subject:
Sauronich wrote:

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Also, something tells me "sharpening" is a disguise name for the infamous ubersampling? hence the probable performance hit.

Nah, I think it's literally just the sharpening filter that was present in the earlier footage/screenshots (and also in TW2).


That makes sense. Also I forgot about that option being in TW2 now that you mention it.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:52    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:


AA "on/off" is PPAA, so that shouldn't be intensive at all, though it will blur everything Sad If it was a hardware AA option it would have stages, rather than a toggle switch. Right?


Yep, I didn't see any other AA options in the main graphical menu (everything was set on max there apart from Hairworks, so I didn't post it)
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:52    Post subject:
sanchin wrote:
Nui wrote:
Mister_s wrote:
How is Polish "original"? Do we have real Witchers who speak Polish?

The original script is polish, so the rest gets a translation. That alone will make me try the polish audio if I can.


Funnily enough - they've stated somewhere, long time ago, that the game is written in Polish with English voices in mind - and translated to English and other languages afterwards. English voiceovers are recorded first, then Polish ones are "based" on them. Still, Witcher books being Polish and based on our culture/myths, references are more likely to be caught by Polish people.

As far as I remember, it was the same with W2.


Main thing here is the writing. As long as it's written in Polish first, it'll remain superior to other versions - wheter voice-overs are recorded later isn't that important. It's hard to explain, but in every previous Witcher game there were subtelties, jokes, lines, that just couldn't be carried 100% into the English version. Especially for fans of Sapkowski's books. The spirit, soul of the Witcher world/prose - it's just there, in the game somehow. And, of course, the already mentioned cultural references.

If you like writing in the Witcher games, you can easily add another 20% of quality to it if you know the native language.

@ Sabin Agreed completely. I'm not denying anything either - the game doesn't look as good as it did a year ago and it's certainly nowhere near the launch trailer - that's completely beyond reach. But I can't wait to get my hands on it too - even though I'm actually gonna be playing the PS4 version this time around, being the poor peasant that I am right now Sad (buying a new PC turned out to be a bit too expensive for the time being, considering other expenses).

@ Mister_s That's true, this generation has been behind since the moment it started and it certainly started showing very fast. To be honest though... on consoles, it's really not that big of an issue. I've been playing InFamous: Second Son recently, and the game looks really gorgeous on the PS4. Like, really. Top of the line as far as city-sandbox games go, topped by PC version of GTA V, but not much else. Multiplatform DA:I looks stunning too. It's PC that'll suffer most because of current gen consoles' weakness, sadly - once again, it'll never be able to spread wings freely. At the very least, incoming dx12 should give the PC a solid performance boost, so bad optimisation won't be that frequent an issue.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:52    Post subject:
Sauronich wrote:
Morphineus wrote:

I actually noticed he's getting less and less quoted. Almost like in the past week even more people put him on ignore! Good times!

Someone should really make an extension that will automatically replace Supermax's posts with Shakespeare quotes. You know, the nuclear "only way to be sure" option Razz

Or we should hire someone who translates his posts into really posh english
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:53    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:

That makes sense. Also I forgot about that option being in TW2 now that you mention it.

I don't think it was even an option, you had to dig through config files to disable it if I remember correctly. So it being there in the menu is an improvement Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th May 2015 23:57    Post subject:
Aquma wrote:
it's certainly nowhere near the launch trailer


Shocked launch trailer? where???
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