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 Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 04:57 Post subject: |
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Make sure your real drives are visible when you test SecuROM7, 'cause if you've used SFNightmare before you should enable CD,node and CH2 or whatever you've disabled before. I've tested it with Heroes of the Pacific (SecuROM 7.00.00.0022) and it's the only way it works.
To be more precise, DT4 is not recognized as an emulation software, still the blacklisting of the SCSI drive exists 'cause SCSI drives are blacklisted in these protections no matter if they are real or not. So, if you were to have a rom on an addon PCI ATA RAID card, you wouldn't be able to use it even with an original disc since the protection doesn't allow the game to run from any SCSI drive.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 05:51 Post subject: |
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Ok so basically now you can throw out sd4hide, SR7.STOP, SFcure... DT4 manages to get around these. As for the other SF titles i never did get SCCT to run EVER, not even with DT4. As for the other SF titles they still run like they did before (minus having to use SFcure). So in a nut shell this is not what i expected form DT4 after those kook developers in the DT forums swore up and down that basic DT4 would handle Sf and Tages like a charm.... bah BS.
DT4 is just an updated 3.47, hell it should have been called 3.48 (looks exactely the same) from earlier screen shots i thought DT4 was supposed to have different colored voodoo masks and shit, kinda looked real cool. What happened?
It would be easy to say the real DT4 is still comming, in the guise of a program called DTPro and costing you $15-20 or whatever the fuck they want for it. But to cheat the average user by not (properly fixing) Sf games feels like weve been fucked over bigtime, everybody has waited sooo looong, and what for? Just to see SD4 and SR7 fixed? Dont get me wrong im happy to see some things fixed but sheesh why go half-way when you could have grabbed the world by the balls! Dissapointing!
I agree, DTPro will be warez'd like a mofo just because alot of people really feel fucked right now with nothing more then a lame DT3.48 *update*. 
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nightlith
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 06:02 Post subject: |
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haha throw out SD4hide? BS.
I just tried my Civ4 clone. Nothing gets it to work in pure DT4 mode. I tried unplugging drives, tried emulation, RPMS, no emulation, whatever. The only way to get it to run was SD4Hide. As usual. WTF is the point? It looks identical to 3.47 and behaves just like 3.47.
i can has computar?!
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 06:08 Post subject: |
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Well, I'm not even dignify this software with a leech, I'll go and buy myself another PCI ATA RAID card, one that supports optical drives, as opposed to my current, put my roms on that and stop disconnecting them whenever I want to play games like GT Legends and WorldRacing2. These kind of cards cost about 20$ tops, and I'm not talking about those superduper Adaptecs, just a shitty Inno or STLab will do.
$ilent$uicide : if you are trying to make the 4.18 GB mdf to work, then you'll never see it running. You need the par_Snake release, which is 4.15GB, and the LeatherFace .mds. It works like a charm, even updated to 1.05.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 06:08 Post subject: |
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the point is, they promised to release DT4 with all the godly functions but they failed to code it in time. so what they did was to release a updated version of 3.47. the functions we are all waiting for will come with DT Pro v1.00 that wont be ready anytime soon.
probably one or two months more.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 06:13 Post subject: |
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Ok so what you guys are saying is, I should not even bother to intsall this. And keep DT3 instead.
I really dont have a problem running SR7 Stop or Virtual CD hide from my desktop to run some games.
So I guess im not going to even install this. Whats the point?
Wow huge letdown. Why even release it if they knew they were going to piss off alot of people. And it seems like a shit load of people are pissed off. Which is bad for them, because people will now just say fuck it, and warez the Pro version.
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nightlith
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 06:20 Post subject: |
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wait fuck. Talk about PEBCAK. Ignore the ranting of this idiot. Seems in my haste to get everything to work I failed to mount the proper image. Both clones of The Movies and Civ4 work. This is with an unplugged IDE. BIOS disabling didn't help as windows was still showing the IDE rom.
So SD4Hide is no longer needed. NEed to find a SR7 game somehwere to try that....
And I still refuse to install StarForceYourSystemToCrash.
i can has computar?!
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 06:31 Post subject: |
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| nightlith wrote: | wait fuck. Talk about PEBCAK. Ignore the ranting of this idiot. Seems in my haste to get everything to work I failed to mount the proper image. Both clones of The Movies and Civ4 work. This is with an unplugged IDE. BIOS disabling didn't help as windows was still showing the IDE rom.
So SD4Hide is no longer needed. NEed to find a SR7 game somehwere to try that....
And I still refuse to install StarForceYourSystemToCrash. |
Ok i am confused now i needed SFN to run path of neo as DT4 couldent do it by itself, 'security module needed blah blah' with just DT4 but when i hide everything using SFN then it started up just fine. Same problem with total overdose, DT4 alone would not start the game "insert correct cdin the rom drive blah blah" but when coupled with SFN it worked just fine, screwey thing is with path of neo and total ovedose there both SR7 games. When i tried to run SR7.HIDE it just said that there is nothing to hide which makes sence seeing that DT4 is no longer black listed. But still....... using SFN to run SR7 games.... hmm ....
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 06:50 Post subject: |
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| sexyjesus wrote: | | $ilent$uicide wrote: | Sf games feels like weve been fucked over bigtime, everybody has waited sooo looong, and what for? Just to see SD4 and SR7 fixed? Dont get me wrong im happy to see some things fixed but sheesh why go half-way when you could have grabbed the world by the balls! Dissapointing!
I agree, DTPro will be warez'd like a mofo just because alot of people really feel fucked right now with nothing more then a lame DT3.48 *update*. |
Complaining about your free software again? You a contributing mofo to the scene or are you just bustin' wind? |
Well, keeping in mind that complaining about free software is strictly forbidden in here, there will be no more post like "the game sucked monkey balls IMO", no? That would be complaining about free software, and we cannot have that here. Oh, unless that person bought the game, which he obviously did, nobody here even touches warez.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 07:04 Post subject: |
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My X3/DT 4 chronicles:
This game works for me with DT3.47, SASFB.exe and sfnightmare, disabled node, cd, etc. with opticals plugged in. I don't like to run it this way this because twice, I have had my system crash with this setup and had to flash my bios to get the system up again. Other than that, it works fine. So here goes my attempt with DT4
Uninstalled DT3.47. Installed 4.0. Mounted X3. Tried to run...crash/reboot.
Unplugged opticals, mounted x3, ran sfnightmare, disabled node, cd, etc. Tried to run...crash/reboot.
Replugged opticals, mounted x3, ran SASFB.exe, ran sfnightmare, disabled node, cd, etc. (This was how I got X3 to run with DT3.47) Tried to run...crash/reboot.
Uninstalled DT4, reinstalled DT 3.47, Replugged opticals, mounted x3, ran SASFB.exe, ran sfnightmare, disabled node, cd, etc. It works again.
Is there something I am missing here?
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nightlith
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 08:20 Post subject: |
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ok, now i have tested every starforce game: without physical drives plugged i run EVERY SINGLE GAME just mounted with dtools4. end of the story. is way simpler than sfcure
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 08:48 Post subject: |
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bullshit. you're not runnign any SF 3.5 or 3.6 game without unpluggin. stop spreading lies.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 08:55 Post subject: |
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| IcedFreon wrote: | | bullshit. you're not runnign any SF 3.5 or 3.6 game without unpluggin. stop spreading lies. |
READ.. without drived plugged means "with drives unplugged"
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 08:57 Post subject: |
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Selt: did you try X3 with just dt4 and unplugged drives ?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 08:59 Post subject: |
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my "every single game" sentence includes x3 reunion, sure
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 09:12 Post subject: |
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How 2 Run King Kong with DT4 ?? some one can help >>???
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 09:12 Post subject: |
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IcedFreon, just read what i wrote before - I RAN Cross Racing Championship WITHOUT unplugging DVR-RW! Just disabled Node, CD, Ch1, Ch2 in starforce nightmare.
BUT I'm not sure if it works with other protected by SF games. Just try my way.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 09:14 Post subject: |
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crc is 3.4 so u can play it simply disabling drives with sfnightmare.
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IcedFreon
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 09:51 Post subject: |
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| Selt wrote: | | IcedFreon wrote: | | bullshit. you're not runnign any SF 3.5 or 3.6 game without unpluggin. stop spreading lies. |
READ.. without drived plugged means "with drives unplugged" |
hah yea im blind. but big deal. we could do that before DT4 so meh.
and hows it simpler than sfcure????? with sfcure all you had to do was hit start.bat. OR have it running soon as you boot.... lol so hows going into a prog and mounting then playing simpler than having a prog already running on yer comp when u boot it up? please explain.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 09:52 Post subject: |
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| IcedFreon wrote: | | Selt wrote: | | IcedFreon wrote: | | bullshit. you're not runnign any SF 3.5 or 3.6 game without unpluggin. stop spreading lies. |
READ.. without drived plugged means "with drives unplugged" |
hah yea im blind. but big deal. we could do that before DT4 so meh.
and hows it simpler than sfcure????? with sfcure all you had to do was hit start.bat. OR have it running soon as you boot.... lol so hows going into a prog and mounting then playing simpler than having a prog already running on yer comp when u boot it up? please explain. |
1st, sfcure was for service pack 2 only.
2nd sfcure was "unplug physically your drives, mount game, click 5 buttonts, play" now is "unplug physically your drives, mount game, play"
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IcedFreon
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 09:53 Post subject: |
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| octo wrote: | | How 2 Run King Kong with DT4 ?? some one can help >>??? |
unplug your opticals and mount it. the exact same way we ran it in alcohol and the previous DT, since DT does nothgin against sf 3.5 and 3.6. pretty much making having DT4 pointless
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IcedFreon
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 09:56 Post subject: |
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| Selt wrote: | | IcedFreon wrote: | | Selt wrote: |
READ.. without drived plugged means "with drives unplugged" |
hah yea im blind. but big deal. we could do that before DT4 so meh.
and hows it simpler than sfcure????? with sfcure all you had to do was hit start.bat. OR have it running soon as you boot.... lol so hows going into a prog and mounting then playing simpler than having a prog already running on yer comp when u boot it up? please explain. |
1st, sfcure was for service pack 2 only.
2nd sfcure was "unplug physically your drives, mount game, click 5 buttonts, play" now is "unplug physically your drives, mount game, play" |
um sfcure was ONE button. the start.bat. or simply have it running when you boot, which makes it ZERO buttons. Dont know what retarded elongated version you got.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 09:57 Post subject: |
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| IcedFreon wrote: | | octo wrote: | | How 2 Run King Kong with DT4 ?? some one can help >>??? |
unplug your opticals and mount it. the exact same way we ran it in alcohol and the previous DT, since DT does nothgin against sf 3.5 and 3.6. pretty much making having DT4 pointless |
it's not daemon fault if scsi drives have been recently hammered down by all protections. ide virtual drive will satisfy you more than dtools4, guaranteed
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IcedFreon
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 09:58 Post subject: |
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| Selt wrote: | | IcedFreon wrote: | | octo wrote: | | How 2 Run King Kong with DT4 ?? some one can help >>??? |
unplug your opticals and mount it. the exact same way we ran it in alcohol and the previous DT, since DT does nothgin against sf 3.5 and 3.6. pretty much making having DT4 pointless |
it's not daemon fault if scsi drives have been recently hammered down by all protections. ide virtual drive will satisfy you more than dtools4, guaranteed |
id say its thier fault for saying Dt4 will do somethign that it doesnt. so if DTPro ever comes out and it doesnt block Sfthen what? lol they gonna say oh wait for DTPro v2 or v3 or v4 etc?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 10:00 Post subject: |
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| IcedFreon wrote: | | Selt wrote: | | IcedFreon wrote: |
unplug your opticals and mount it. the exact same way we ran it in alcohol and the previous DT, since DT does nothgin against sf 3.5 and 3.6. pretty much making having DT4 pointless |
it's not daemon fault if scsi drives have been recently hammered down by all protections. ide virtual drive will satisfy you more than dtools4, guaranteed |
id say its thier fault for saying Dt4 will do somethign that it doesnt. so if DTPro ever comes out and it doesnt block Sfthen what? lol they gonna say oh wait for DTPro v2 or v3 or v4 etc? |
there's nothing to block. the only dtoolsv4 fault is that it's still a scsi drive. probably you haven't catch that protections have fucked also real scsi drives to avoid the use of daemon tools.
they cant fuck real ide drives when dtools will be ide. u'll see
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 10:04 Post subject: |
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| IcedFreon wrote: | | Selt wrote: | | IcedFreon wrote: |
hah yea im blind. but big deal. we could do that before DT4 so meh.
and hows it simpler than sfcure????? with sfcure all you had to do was hit start.bat. OR have it running soon as you boot.... lol so hows going into a prog and mounting then playing simpler than having a prog already running on yer comp when u boot it up? please explain. |
1st, sfcure was for service pack 2 only.
2nd sfcure was "unplug physically your drives, mount game, click 5 buttonts, play" now is "unplug physically your drives, mount game, play" |
um sfcure was ONE button. the start.bat. or simply have it running when you boot. dont know what retarded elongated version you got. |
Well, i'm screaming from the top of my lungs here that SFCure can be made an automated process, you don't have to start it, you don't have to stop it, and nobody seems to read this. Don't bother IcedFreon, looks like nobody's reading. Let them do their imaginary 100 steps and dances before running SF games, or better, use the superdupertrendycoolstateoftheartprotectionbuster software there is :the DT4...ROFL
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, i had no problem running securom7 with only dt4
Get a game that doesn't require a fucking mainframe just to display the main menu. lol 
