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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 18:21 Post subject: |
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madness wrote: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chn9QN2W5V4 |
12 days
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Sorry Leaf, didn't see your post >_<
The_Leaf wrote: | I have to stress again (and again) I have no beef against you or anyone else here, I quoted you merely for convenience since you were quoting the original Morphineus, so got both of you in one click, no plot or conspiracy, just lazyness |
And despite what you may think, I have no beef against you nor anyone else I butt heads with in this topic on this regard - well, except Derp80 I prod and laugh at Radicalus and 4treyu, but it's not out of malice.. if I didn't regard them, I'd simply ignore
Quote: | If you're just making a "general point" don't use my words ("If you believe early promotional material etc.") and match them with others to make it seems I "changed my tune". My points at the time were mainly concerned with the massive amount of rage that this game in particular seemed to generate, in comparison with others that employed much more sleazy money-grabbing tactics and yet received way less flak. Also we were talking about console vs pc looks specifically there, not about the general "downgrade". |
I didn't, I paraphrased words you, Witch, Paul and many others have made too. The massive "rage" is because many of us expected better of the so-called PC gaming "darling", who has shown increasing tendencies to screw with their customers in exchange for playful pats on the head from their partners. Every game that has received such a marked and visible downgrade *has* received flak for it, and rightly so, but CDPR are getting what seems to be more because we EXPECTED more from them.
Quote: | As for the second part of your post (I know you were quoting Drowning_Witch, but I might as well add my 2 cents): if you re-read the post I made above you'll notice that mine is simply a STATEMENT OF FACT (i.e.: this is how it goes in the world of marketing) as opposed to a statement in SUPPORT of such practices. There's a huge difference. In fact, I agree with you that it would be better if it wasn't this way. But since it DOES work this way, I was merely pointing out that you guys would be less disappointed (in general) if you took early PR material with a MASSIVE grain of salt in the first place. |
The way I see it, statements of "fact" regarding things that we "shouldn't get upset about" could just as easily be construed as statements of support. We SHOULD get upset about it, because if we don't then it will never change and we will constantly be lied to and cheated. You keep saying "early promotional material" but Il Padrino said it best; this wasn't little snippets, or doctored photos, this was extensive and expansive game footage that CDPR categorically stated was game footage.. and not only that, but that final game would look even better.
These aren't PR spins. These are outright lies.
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 18:28 Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 18:37 Post subject: |
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Mhh so Ciri can teleport during a combat? Can she also teleport from fucking in one room and fighting with an evil fatbear outside of town?
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 18:39 Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 18:43 Post subject: |
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sabin1981 wrote: |
I didn't, I paraphrased words you, Witch, Paul and many others have made too. The massive "rage" is because many of us expected better of the so-called PC gaming "darling", who has shown increasing tendencies to screw with their customers in exchange for playful pats on the head from their partners. Every game that has received such a marked and visible downgrade *has* received flak for it, and rightly so, but CDPR are getting what seems to be more because we EXPECTED more from them.
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Point taken.
In fact, if I recall correctly, you and I had already agreed that that was the main crux of the matter quite a few dozen pages back.
I think we're all getting a bit touchy because the game isn't out yet and all we can do in the meantime is count the days and pass the time analyzing and speculating ad nauseam
Quote: | The way I see it, statements of "fact" regarding things that we "shouldn't get upset about" could just as easily be construed as statements of support. We SHOULD get upset about it, because if we don't then it will never change and we will constantly be lied to and cheated. |
Fair enough, I just wanted to stress, in case I gave anyone the wrong impression, that I wasn't supporting these practices. I'm just generally a pessimist by nature and unfortunately I don't think any amount of rage will change matters for the better So I decided long ago that my approach is to always look at the final product instead of comparing it with any promotional material or statement from the company, whether it be "early material" or "late material".
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 18:45 Post subject: |
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I certainly cant do that uncle Zeel. U?
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 18:47 Post subject: |
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Neon
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 18:58 Post subject: |
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@Leafy
I was just having a bit of fun. Wasn't really overly serious, so sorry if it went a bit overboard.
I went off to take a nap, twas not the right time! 
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 19:03 Post subject: |
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Supermax2004 wrote: | Mhh so Ciri can teleport during a combat? Can she also teleport from fucking in one room and fighting with an evil fatbear outside of town? |
well the blink is kinda big downgrade of her time/space abilities from later books
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 19:03 Post subject: |
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I want the game I want the game I want the game.....NOW!
Time space stuff? Sounds wild.
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bronson
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 19:12 Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 19:26 Post subject: |
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@bronson: You like what you're seeing or you hate that fucking dick graphics? What is it? Crazzy good or crazy motherfucking bad? Cant tell sometimes what people think when posting apeshit like that!
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 19:29 Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 19:33 Post subject: |
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Frolsa84 wrote: | Neither, stoopid. |
Bullsheeeeeeee-it
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 19:36 Post subject: |
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Cool story bro Zeel
Please don't tell more
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Posted: Thu, 7th May 2015 19:38 Post subject: |
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That grass and the trees look like ass*
*as in, any other game on the consoles.
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