Daemon-tools V4
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BushDoctor




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 01:41    Post subject:
Just tried Trackmania Sunrise, mounted with D-Tools v4 and "CD Disable" in Starforce Nightmare and it worked Smile
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Ronhrin
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 01:42    Post subject:
I'm aware of that, but I'm just being critic about what DT Team said it would be possible with "the great DT4", and the one year wait has brought nothing new, DT4 does almost what DT3.47 did, I thank them for the time they spent coding it, but it is impossible to thank them for a good job, because the honest truth is that until now DT4 is being a failure...


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cyraxx




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 01:44    Post subject:
my cd/dvd drives are on the channel 2...so i disabled it....i tried now all known methods to run that fucking game.....no way...give it up.......starshit has beaten me....good night & good fight!!!
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 01:45    Post subject:
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Ronhrin
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 01:46    Post subject:
the only thing DT4 has brought new is the adware


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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 01:49    Post subject:
cyraxx wrote:
my cd/dvd drives are on the channel 2...so i disabled it....i tried now all known methods to run that fucking game.....no way...give it up.......starshit has beaten me....good night & good fight!!!


Forget about "disable ch2" and try to disable "Sc.Master" and "Sc.Slave" instead. It doesn't work here if I just push "disable ch2" for some reason, I have to disable them by doing what I just wrote.

Edit: And of course "disable cd" and "disable node" too. Wink


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cyraxx




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 01:52    Post subject:
ok gonna try that....gonna leave to disable ch2 instead gonna disable scmaster and scslave....hope it works...

could u please write the steps what exactly to do???
i just startet sfn..disable nd, disable cd, disable nd, disable sc master and sc slave..then started x3....is still working...
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 01:56    Post subject:
Ah X3, I dunno about that, maybe it's too new.
I thought it was some older game.

Edit: I would say that 2 weeks is new.


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Ronhrin
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 01:57    Post subject:
pallebrun, X3 is 2 weeks old....


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cyraxx




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 01:58    Post subject:
already unplugged my cd/dvd drives....

i tried your advise above...get again that fucking error....gonna finally give it up...thx again for ya help....
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ivsft




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 01:59    Post subject:
Uninstalled Chaos THeory did not work, and after repeating my posts here, no once could help with a simple question.. Lame ... Sad

Goign to try Worms now, if it will not work,

FUCK Daemon Tools.
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:01    Post subject:
Yeah, the best thing to do is to just wait for DTpro since DT4 still is very hardware depending.
Some can just push "disable cd" and games work, while others (like me) have to do the whole DT3 thing to get a game to work.
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Ronhrin
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:04    Post subject:
ivsft: everybody's pissed of with DT4, if you didn't get an answer is because nobody knows what to answer, the only suggestion I can give you is to remove DT4 from your system


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cyraxx




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:07    Post subject:
i am doing this right now! Wink Very Happy
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:13    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
Ah X3, I dunno about that, maybe it's too new.
I thought it was some older game.

Edit: I would say that 2 weeks is new.


For X3

1. Install
2. Unplug cd/dvd drive
3. Run SFCure
4. Run SFN and click, "Disable Node" - "Disable CD" - and "Disable Node" again
5. Play

Oh, and leave the image mounted. Unmounted = doesnt work

Smile

Compliments of Baleur Smile That method works for alot of ppl...i dont understand why u would need to disable the node and cd after unplugging them, but fuck, thats what ya gotta do Smile


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ivsft




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:14    Post subject:
Fuck D-Tools All I can say in colnclusion..

Worms dont work, when I press play it checks for the protection and then just restarts the whole system.

Bullshit this is.
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werdercanuck




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:19    Post subject:
i couldnt even get tm sunrise to work. tried every method: unplug, install mounted. click play error. disabled things in sfn, error...well, thats what you get for free....fuck dt


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cyraxx




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:22    Post subject:
i uninstalled that shittin dt4...and now i cant install my honest alcohol...get an error during installation....thx dt-team....and FUCK OFF!!!!!
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Ronhrin
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:26    Post subject:
DT4 has been so efficient as the war on iraq, I just hope DT Team members saw how happy we all are with they breakthrough work of bullshit


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MistressDeath




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:33    Post subject:
Well, I was able to get King Kong to work by using the following:

DTools 4.0
Removing IDE Cables
I even used disable node, but was able to get the game working with node enabled? Weird!

King Kong started out great! I have been looking forward to this game!

Cannot wait to get DTools Pro so I don't have to unplug my IDE cables.

MD
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:44    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
pallebrun wrote:
Ah X3, I dunno about that, maybe it's too new.
I thought it was some older game.

Edit: I would say that 2 weeks is new.


For X3

1. Install
2. Unplug cd/dvd drive
3. Run SFCure
4. Run SFN and click, "Disable Node" - "Disable CD" - and "Disable Node" again
5. Play

Oh, and leave the image mounted. Unmounted = doesnt work

Smile

Compliments of Baleur Smile That method works for alot of ppl...i dont understand why u would need to disable the node and cd after unplugging them, but fuck, thats what ya gotta do Smile


Yes with sfcure, but the whole deal was that we shuldn't have to use such things. Wink
With that method you can just use DT3.
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waltgill




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:47    Post subject:
I think i am going to have a format and start from a fresh system........
fucking matrix the path of neo doesnt work with daemon tools 4 with sr7 stop as well.........

i am putting it down to my system instead of blaming daemon tools.........
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brianwarming69




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:56    Post subject:
Anyone tried DT4 + Starforce protected games on a SATA only system ? (no IDE harddrives, no IDE DVD/CD drives, all IDE channels disabled in BIOS)
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Drvre




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:58    Post subject:
You should keep in mind that IDE drivers MUST be OS standard. SF Nightmare doesn't work with , for example, nVidia Drivers. So, first you have to make sure you have those drivers.
The errors: 1.protection saying "insert the disc into another drive" is caused by the fact that it "sees" your real roms. This happens either because you didn't hide your roms properly using SFNightmare (pushing disable CH2 won't help if you have one rom on CH1), or you are running a game with SF version above 3.5, in which case the only thing to do is manually unpluging them.
2.Protection requesting the CD key : this is caused by the fact that it won't autentificate the disc, meaning the image from which you are attempting to run the game is not a proper one.

No matter what DT Team say, they were not able to fully emulate starforce, since SCCT cannot be run from the "Nobody 4.18GB mdf" and only from the Snake Release with the LeatherFace .mds (those who have struggled with SCCT for as long as I have know what I'm talking about). So actually all that it does is work only with the "proper" releases. IMHO that is not an emulation, but maybe I'm wrong.

Keep dreaming on the IDE plugin. Maybe it will be here in 4 to 6 months. In the meantime, bash on SFCure, 'cause it was here 1 1/2 months ago, with not so much publicity, not like this overrated DT4, whose developers are viewing themselves as gods (just take a look at their forums and their posts, you'll get my point).

PS: running SFCure doesn't imply 100 steps, just 2 :1.install and 2.regedit so that it will start automatically. From then on, all you have to do is work with SFNightmare. How does DT4 install ?
1.Installs an extended IO Bus, and after reboot
2.Installs DT4 files, and after that, 3.Installs the SCSI controller, and after that 4.Installs the virtual drive.
So much for simplicity.
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IcedFreon




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 03:27    Post subject:
well whoopdi fuckin doo.....all the games that worked before without unplugging now work with DT4...and all the games that didnt work without unplugging DONT. so why do i even have DT4 installed?
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Drvre




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 03:34    Post subject:
IcedFreon wrote:
well whoopdi fuckin doo.....all the games that worked before without unplugging now work with DT4...and all the games that didnt work without unplugging DONT. so why do i even have DT4 installed?


We all have it because it's 1337, trendy, cool or whatever wou want to call it. It isn't more efficient, but hey!, who cares? it's all those, right? Razz
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Trojax05




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 03:46    Post subject:
Is Sr7stop supposed to still work with the new dt4? I have nothing to hide apparently when using it with Dt4. This pretty much makes dt4 useless for images of securom... unless of course only I have this problem. Oh well I can always burn the image and it should work ok off the IDE drive I would suppose. Or go back to dt347...
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SceneLeader
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 04:18    Post subject:
dt dev sucks ass, they are just trying to cash in with a pro version of dt and putting adware in dt4, no better than people who sells warez. I says warez the shit out of dt 4, and dt pro when it's released.
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nachog4




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 04:27    Post subject:
tested dt4 with securom7 (battlefront2), worked ok NOTHING UNPLUGGED
no need of sr7.stop

i d like to know how it works with tages (like farenheit), safedisc 4.6 (quake4), starforce 3.5 and starforce 3.6 (king kong)
and please posts from people who knows what they re doing!, tired of the ones that still dont understand sfcure method or blaming just cause its easy

why dont we recopile all this info into a simple post?


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Drvre




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 04:36    Post subject:
nachog4 wrote:
tested dt4 with securom7 (battlefront2), worked ok
no need of sr7.stop

i d like to know how it works with tages (like farenheit), safedisc 4.6 (quake4), starforce 3.5 and starforce 3.6 (king kong)

why dont we recopile all this info into a simple post?


SecuROM7 : blacklisting of the emulation software is gone, still remains the blacklisting of the SCSI drive. You'll have to use SFNightmare.
Tages : doesn't do shit. Still the tetris emu.
Starforce :below 3.5 use SFNightmare, above 3.5 pull your cables.

Maybe you could fill in the safedisc portion, I don't have any installed games using that and don't intend to install just to test this so called "protection terminator".
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