Daemon-tools V4
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veseo




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:08    Post subject:
doesnt work here with The Suffering 2 too .. and DT homepage seems to be down


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egoldner




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:10    Post subject:
Well.. worked with Splinter Cell (Starforce) and Path of Neo ( Securerom 7 ) but using SFN to desable CD !

Now i've tried to Update BOTH games and none of them are working now! bahh
I was so happy and now this... why would stop working after updating??
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darkscaryone




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:11    Post subject:
I was the guy quoted from the other forum earlier in this thread.

I reported about all this last night and earlier today also broke the news about the public version being adware infected.

Well, the public version is now released.....with adware. (and still crippled with no standalone SF support).

Enjoy.
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KrutojPoc




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:13    Post subject:
Well, tested with SC:CT works fine!
Only Disabled CD in SFNightmare nothing more
Service Pack 1. Works fine


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Selt




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:13    Post subject:
egoldner wrote:
Well.. worked with Splinter Cell (Starforce) and Path of Neo ( Securerom 7 ) but using SFN to desable CD !

Now i've tried to Update BOTH games and none of them are working now! bahh
I was so happy and now this... why would stop working after updating??


because updating the games u gets newest starforce and securom. need to phisically disable your optical drives. dtools pro will solve that
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Drvre




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:13    Post subject:
Selt wrote:
CyberP@cal wrote:
Selt wrote:


dtools pro u mean? sure u wont need. for safedisc and securom here u can keep using sdhyde and securomstop if u want till dtoolspro is out


i know but,it will be great if a tool do all.(emulate securom,starforce all version,safedisc,tages...) without do anything apart just mount and play.
BUT the perfection doesn't exist Crying or Very sad


dtools pro! u'll see it


Yeah, just like we've seen this DT4 at work. Sure, SF releases work now, but do I have to remind you that you still need SFNightmare to disable roms, that is in SF below 3.5, 'cause for 3.6 you need to unplug your cables. This is the way SF releases worked before, with SFCure driver (which can, btw, be made an automated process if you do a little regedit on startup type, so no bitching about pushing start.bat and stop.bat 'cause you don't have to do that everytime), so where's the progress? Oh, I forgot, some people didn't know how to use SFCure so they simply gave up, and now this wannabe end of SF program called DT4 is their knight in shining armour (and I don't mean you Selt). Bottom line is that DT4 is not what they promised it would be, since I'm still required to use 3rd party programs. It will not work with SF nor Securom7, not without using SFNightmare or pulling cables.
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murekz




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:18    Post subject:
u people who saying that u are dissapointed u talk alot of shit and that it dosent work blabla u doing something wrong

titles that work:

GT Legends
King Kong
Trackmania sunrise
crossracing
splinter cell cheos theory
worldracing 2
Brothers.In.Arms.Earned.In.Blood
X3:Reunion

and all the other starforce protected games work im 100% sure if it dosent unplugg your ide till the virtual ide plugin comes or disable cd in SFnightmare.....AND dont talk shit that your are dissapointed...cuple a months ago we couldent even play SF games so shut it RazzVery Happy thanks to deamon guys
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Selt




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:18    Post subject:
guys, daemon tools is officially released on their website.
the version we got here is adware free, i really suggest everyone to go getting the adware version. it's still free for us, but it's a way to support daemon team even if u don't want to be a paying customer.
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murekz




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:21    Post subject:
u people who saying that u are dissapointed u talk alot of shit and that it dosent work blabla u doing something wrong

titles that work:

GT Legends
King Kong
Trackmania sunrise
crossracing
splinter cell cheos theory
worldracing 2
Brothers.In.Arms.Earned.In.Blood
X3:Reunion

and all the other starforce protected games work im 100% sure if it dosent unplugg your ide till the virtual ide plugin comes or disable cd in SFnightmare.....AND dont talk shit that your are dissapointed...cuple a months ago we couldent even play SF games so shut it RazzVery Happy thanks to deamon guys
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sniperfin




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:23    Post subject:
All who have starforce games working by mounting, are you absolutely sure that sfcure service is not automatically started when windows boots ?
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Selt




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:24    Post subject:
sniperfin wrote:
All who have starforce games working by mounting, are you absolutely sure that sfcure service is not automatically started wit windows boot ?


100% sure, i even have service pack1 so sfcure wouldn't work even if it was running.
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veseo




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:24    Post subject:
Just tried Sufferin 2: TTB wth physically disabled DVD-ROM, works like a charm.


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murekz




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:25    Post subject:
sniperfin wrote:
All who have starforce games working by mounting, are you absolutely sure that sfcure service is not automatically started when windows boots ?


100%sure why are u having probs?
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egoldner




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:27    Post subject:
Selt wrote:
egoldner wrote:
Well.. worked with Splinter Cell (Starforce) and Path of Neo ( Securerom 7 ) but using SFN to desable CD !

Now i've tried to Update BOTH games and none of them are working now! bahh
I was so happy and now this... why would stop working after updating??


because updating the games u gets newest starforce and securom. need to phisically disable your optical drives. dtools pro will solve that


Yeah dude! exactly..
Just unplugged the cable and Splinter Cell is working again!!
But Path Of Neo isn't!! The weird thing is that no error occurs!!
When i execute it it just stays in the process (CTRL+ALT+ DEL) but nothing happens... dunno if its something wrong with the protection or the update...
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Stabbe




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:28    Post subject:
sniperfin wrote:
All who have starforce games working by mounting, are you absolutely sure that sfcure service is not automatically started when windows boots ?


I manually deleted the dll file from system32/drivers folder and deleted the regkey from registry , so yes Smile
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sniperfin




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:29    Post subject:
murekz wrote:
sniperfin wrote:
All who have starforce games working by mounting, are you absolutely sure that sfcure service is not automatically started when windows boots ?


100%sure why are u having probs?


Nope,just wanted to be sure before installing,cause sfcure + nightmare and alcohol are working just fine.


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Crusher




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:30    Post subject:
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waltgill




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:33    Post subject:
ok some are having luck with some titles..
im still sceptic...
tried
gtlegends and bet on soldier with no luck...

if someone tries (bet on soldier and codename panzers phase 2 or cossacks 2 european wars
and get them working and the steps involved...

i tried mounting in daemon tools 4 installing game
rebooting pc
run starforce nightmare
disabling 2nd ide ,cdrom,node
and running game
and no luck just says insert original cd
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Selt




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:37    Post subject:
waltgill wrote:
ok some are having luck with some titles..
im still sceptic...
tried
gtlegends and bet on soldier with no luck...

if someone tries (bet on soldier and codename panzers phase 2 or cossacks 2 european wars
and get them working and the steps involved...

i tried mounting in daemon tools 4 installing game
rebooting pc
run starforce nightmare
disabling 2nd ide ,cdrom,node
and running game
and no luck just says insert original cd


NO

u have to physically unplug your optical drives!!! sfnightmare does not work from starforce 3.5 on...
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waltgill




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:44    Post subject:
thanks selt

will just have to wait for daemon tools pro
ive waited all this time so a bit longer wont hurt...

dont want to keep removing cables to play games.........
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Drvre




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:45    Post subject:
I remember those posts..."Unplugging my cables...no, I won't do that, I'll just wait for DT4 release, they're gone whipp SF's ass". Well, now we all got smth else to wait for, the great (praised be its name),behold the IDE plugin! Seems that unplugging cables its OK now that DT4 is finally out.
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CyO_Anibal




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:46    Post subject:
all that games are below 3.5 sf, can anyone try to use dt4 + nightmare with:

Codename Panzers Phase Two
GTR
Cossacks II
Blitzkrieg 2
GT Legends.
.
.
.

and say which run without unplug ids physically?
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Crusher




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:49    Post subject:
Code:
Dear DT-Community,

today, we release the new V4.00.

As we already heard from our customers, it fixes indeed
most or even all blacklists - however, it is STILL a SCSI-Emulator,
therefore it's still necessary to remove present IDE-Drives!

As nearly all protections now block ALL SCSI-Drives, no matter
if REAL or VIRTUAL, you need to DISABLE your ide-drives!
This version is more or less only a "next step", it does NOT
contain an IDE-Jammer atm. However, we are working on it and
will hopefully have it ready soon. So be warned - do NOT complain
about the "lack" of the IDE-Jammer-Device. We release it now,
as is. It fullfilles its job as long as no IDE is present in
System or you otherwise block that IDE-nodes. After all it's
STILL free!

Another important change is the integration of ADWARE.
Yes, we need that revenues. However, we decided to let
YOU choose to run it with ADWARE and support us - or simple
turn it OFF in installation-process and run it same way
as former versions - without ADWARE. By default, it is turned
ON - to not install that ADWARE, please UNCHECK at installation
"DAEMON TOOLS SEARCHBAR" (or you can remove it anytime later when
you wish via "Control Panel"-> "Add/Remove programs")

We leave that decision to you, so please don't blame us that we did
it that way. It was a compromise to continue the free support -
we would much appreciate it if you install that ADWARE-stuff. We set-
up a special forum so please post in THAT forum only about questions,
concerns or anything else that is related to that ADWARE. The forum's
name is "DAEMON Tools Searchbar".

To sum it up:
- NO IDE-Jammer atm - we are working on it! No ETA for it - it's done
when it's done!
- ADWARE INCLUDED - you can, however, UNCHECK that ADWARE at installation!

The changelog for V4:

- complete redesign from scratch

- support of 4 virtual drives

- ONLY X32-supported now. X64 will follow

- Drivername randomly generated on each machine (not finished yet)

- Drive-vendor and versionnumber randomly generated

- Complete new emulation architecture

- DCP (DaemonCodeProtect) to make analyses harder and increase development time for malicious anti-DT tools

- Digital signature verification of applications who are trusted to access DT in secure mode

- AutoInsertNotification fully implemented (can be turned on/off at ControlPanel)

- Dropped: MS-Installer, DT now use modificated NullsoftInstaller

- Dropped: analog sound support (as Windows 2000 and above do not need this feature)

- supports all popular copyprotections

Again: This version is an "in between" step to fix latest issues not only
with protections but also many other issues and installation-problems.
We work hard to release soon next update!
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BushDoctor




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:49    Post subject:
One thing I dont understand, is there more then one Daemon Tools 4.0 version out ? Somebody said something about a PRO version ?

Which one should I get ?
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Drvre




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:55    Post subject:
GT Legends is StarForce 3.6.10.03. All the games that are SF3.5 and below work without unplugging cables, as they did before DT4. That includes SCCT, Trackmania Sunrise, Cross Racing Championship2005 and so on.

And 10x guys for the adware, I didn't know what I was missing in my computer besides those 6 or 7 SF drivers...lol, one more Extended IO Bus which installs itself at the beginning, and does not remove itself when DT4 is uninstalled. Sound awfully familiar.
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ivsft




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:56    Post subject:
So if Splinter Cell is updated to 1.5 it you have to physically unplug the cables?

And If I have a laptop, what DO i do?
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Drvre




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:59    Post subject:
ivsft wrote:
So if Splinter Cell is updated to 1.5 it you have to physically unplug the cables?

And If I have a laptop, what DO i do?


No, works with the 1.05 version too, without unpluging drives. if you have to disable an IDe channel and SFNightmare doesn't work for you, either disable it via Device Manager (requires reboot) or via BIOS. I'm not to familiar with laptops.
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ivsft




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 00:00    Post subject:
Ill try now. thanx
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egoldner




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 00:00    Post subject:
Yes.. if you Update any of the Starforce games you will have to physically unplug the cables!!
Now... if you have a Laptop i don't have a clue how to make it work! sorry...
Still trying to make Path Of Neo updated to work! But still no luck .. reinstallign it now..
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waltgill




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 00:00    Post subject:
right like i said earlier in this thread have allready tried some games but with no luck....but

i have downloaded 2 versions of daemon tools 4

the first is dldaemon400_cust.exe and is 1.32mb
the other is daemon400.exe and is 1.39mb
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