Daemon-tools V4
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capn-jazz




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 19:48    Post subject:
Yeah... and there should no need of this with DT4 I guess. Aka just some guy who
integrated some tools in old DT to make fools of us Very Happy
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murekz




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 19:55    Post subject:
but the thing is i think DT 4 will work this way too u need to disconnect the ide cables for some games not all SCCT works but u need to disconnect x3 too worldracing 2,peter jackssons king kong,gt legends and so on works so i think its the real deal guys....but now if u dissapointed in dissconnecting the cables look back for a sec and think what you needed to do just to play the sf titles before so this is good for me Very Happy
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KrutojPoc




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 20:03    Post subject:
murekz wrote:
i tried it with x3 reunion and GT legends and it works but there is a smal problem u need to disconnect ide cable from dvd/cd

Yeah and of course you have SP2 and noone can confirm it works with SP1? Sad
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murekz




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 20:08    Post subject:
KrutojPoc wrote:
murekz wrote:
i tried it with x3 reunion and GT legends and it works but there is a smal problem u need to disconnect ide cable from dvd/cd

Yeah and of course you have SP2 and noone can confirm it works with SP1? Sad


yee Sad but why dont u install sp2? its better......but now im confused farenheit dosent work its securom i think u guys are right this is some custom edition from somone else but its better than sfcure hope it not from the SF makers they maybe install i worm or something to destroy our pc ahaha Very Happy
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KrutojPoc




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 20:20    Post subject:
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yee Sad but why dont u install sp2? its better......but now im confused farenheit dosent work its securom i think u guys are right this is some custom edition from somone else but its better than sfcure hope it not from the SF makers they maybe install i worm or something to destroy our pc ahaha Very Happy


Farenheit is new tages. You need .tdf file for that.
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panarama




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 20:24    Post subject:
I tried King Kong and The sufferin TTBind and works. It's reaaaaaaaaaal.
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Supermax2004
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 20:24    Post subject:
Well DT4 has to be out this week or they're wrong again Evil or Very Mad
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medeni73




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 20:35    Post subject:
From some guys on some forum:
"I can now make it official.

DT4 is a FUCKING JOKE.

Seriously, it's like spot the difference with version 3.47.

It will NOT run starforce 3.**, Securom 7 or Safedisc 4 games without other programs helping to hide IDE drives.

A quote from VeNoM386, an admin over there:

"Not only Starforce, but latest Securom and SafeDisc seem do not accept anything else if you have IDE drive in your system. This issue is still not resolved in current release and being worked on. We decided not to delay release because of this.
Disconnect all your real IDE CD/DVD devices or try to use some "hiding" tools."


"To be clear, DT4 was released to paying cutomers yesterday.
The site has a customer only download area and forum.

There is a LOT of moaning and dissappointment on the customer forum regarding the lack of changes in this release.

They seem to be keeping the info away from the public side ATM.
(Hell, they kept it from customers too, until yesterday, and even then they just said "hey it's ready for download" without any further word. They only acknowledged that newer protections weren't working unaided when loads of people had complained about it).

Supposedly, the public release is this week, but there is talk of this being postponed. (There are even fanboys there advising the dev team against a public release at present, because they fear the public backlash)."


It seems guys that we had high hopes for nothing Sad
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Selt




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 20:38    Post subject:
dont have time to loose


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KrutojPoc




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 20:38    Post subject:
As you probably know DT4 is SCSI drive
Starforce doesnt allow to run game on SCSI drive if IDE drive (Real CD-Rom) is detected

That means you MUST disable IDE drives or DT4 will never run Starforce games.
The best part is that DT4 is supposed to have its own tool that will disable IDE drives automatically, and it probably will be released as addon. Obviously, you dont have it yet, thats why you must use SFN or unplug cables manually if you want SF games.

The real deal is of course DT Pro, which will have IDE plugin. That means no need to disable anything Smile Just be patient and wait Smile
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MistressDeath




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 20:44    Post subject:
Wow! How disappointing would that be! What about the virtual IDE drives solving SF? The GUI should be totally different with Voodoo mask icons for images. I have heard some people say it looks the same DTools 3.47 and it shouldn't. I am not convinced that this is the final version or the correct version of DTools 4.0. They were saying it would work with SF months ago.

MD
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egoldner




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 20:48    Post subject:
KrutojPoc wrote:
Just be patient and wait Smile

Wait more??!?!?!?
Well.. i guess it's better than never get to run the games...
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Selt




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:01    Post subject:
confirm that dtools is real, is the customer version.

my experience disabling internal drives with sfcure

king kong works
glt works
splinter cell works
world racing 2 works
ufo works
chrome specforce works
worms works
tm sunrise works
plus, can throw sdhyde and securomstop in the toilet cuz everything runs without them.
still a scsi drive as expected, the ide virtual drive will come with dtoolspro plugin, without the need to unplug or disable any drive.
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panarama




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:11    Post subject:
I didn't unplugged any cable. For me is working wonders w/o unplugging any cable.
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KrutojPoc




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:11    Post subject:
What do you mean "disabling internal drives with sfcure" ?
If you mean SFN it is not supposed to work with games like king kong anymore.
If you still use sfcure then what da hell we need DT4 for?
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seirix




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:11    Post subject:
for me it works without sfcure, just disabling drives
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rspectre




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:13    Post subject:
yep its true!
Work for me with sp1 and world racing 2.Sfcure wasnt workin on my comp...
i just unplued my dvd drive
Thx deamon tool!
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Selt




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:15    Post subject:
sorry i meant starforce nightmare.
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Drvre




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:20    Post subject:
Well it's a joke, 'cause it won't run Securom 7 without disabling your IDE drives. And if you are running SF games using SFCure + somehow disabling IDE drives, then NOTHING IS GAINED. IT'S JUST ANOTHER VIRTUAL DRIVE! C'mon people, wtf?!?! Stop saying it works. "Working" would mean that you don't have to do anything besides mounting the image. Sure, the blacklisting in Securom7 stopped, but the protection demands that you insert the disc into another drive, even specifing what drive should be. You will have to disable your real drives, just like for SF. So...we're not using sr7stop, but we'll use SFNightmare instead...Well, that's a progress, one less icon on my desktop, thank you very much.
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ivsft




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:20    Post subject:
So is it real or not? I have a Laptop and cannot unplug anything.. So will Splinter Cell and Worms work?
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KrutojPoc




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:21    Post subject:
Selt wrote:
sorry i meant starforce nightmare.


So King Kong and other new SF games magically work with SFNightmare again?
Are you sure? Confused
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-Spikey-




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:21    Post subject:
ivsft wrote:
So is it real or not? I have a Laptop and cannot unplug anything.. So will Splinter Cell and Worms work?


Worms is working for me, but scct not.
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Stabbe




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:27    Post subject:
I can also confirm it is working with SF nitemare, tried Trackmania Sunrise -Mirror release. I have tried it before with the old DT version and it never worked , now it worked like a charm.
So my guess is ,it is the real thing , only it is missing the hide cdr function Sad.
I only disabled CD ,Ide Chan 2 , Node with SFN , and just booted the game.
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Selt




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:29    Post subject:
KrutojPoc wrote:
Selt wrote:
sorry i meant starforce nightmare.


So King Kong and other new SF games magically work with SFNightmare again?
Are you sure? Confused


u can choose between unplugging your drives manually or using sfnightmare. both works to me, no need to do the 345 passage sfcure thing
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mo0k




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:29    Post subject:
Just disable CD and Node with SFNightmare and mount SC, works great.
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capn-jazz




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:30    Post subject:
Okay, Ill take all back what I said before. It seems it is the original version from Daemon.
Maybe my hopes for a Multi-Copy-Protection-Killer-Program ( MCPKP Smile )
were too high!
Now Im a little bit disappointed and lost my faith. hehe
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MistressDeath




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:38    Post subject:
Ok, just to be sure:

1. Uninstall DTools 3.47 and Install DTools 4.0
2. Mount image and install game
3. Use StarForce Nightmare to Disable CD, Node and Secondary Master and Slave (For Me anyway)
4. Excecute Game and it works

Is that it for sure? No SFCure? That doesn't seem so bad. Obviously the Virtual IDE plug in for Pro is what we all want. At least we don't have to unplug our IDE Drives anymore.

Also, I tried to post at Daemon Tools forums and they are screening posts and not letting them go through if they say anything negative about DTools 4.0 or about paying customers already getting DTools 4.0. Pathetic if you ask me.

MD
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Stabbe




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:41    Post subject:
Me again Very Happy , i enabled Node and Chan 2 , and this time only Disable CD , and it worked too. Very Happy I did a reboot inbetween just to be sure.
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MistressDeath




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:45    Post subject:
Does anyone have a good link to download DTools 4.0?

I have tried http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J0ES401N but it just sits there.

TIA,

MD
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ivsft




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 21:46    Post subject:
Mann.. so the only way to play games on a laptop is with DTools pro, casue I cant disable any drives with sfnghtmare
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