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Kein
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2015 17:04    Post subject:
Arukardo wrote:
Lathieza wrote:
I think this guy words it pretty well

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/discussions/-1/611704730315096577/?appid=72850

short time that "modders" will be paid in Steam wallet

???
Where did this came from?
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Arukardo




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2015 18:32    Post subject:
Kein wrote:
Arukardo wrote:
Lathieza wrote:
I think this guy words it pretty well

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/discussions/-1/611704730315096577/?appid=72850

short time that "modders" will be paid in Steam wallet

???
Where did this came from?

Quote:
And even after all of that, the modders who get paid here on steam arent paid in "real" money, but Steam Wallet "money".
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Neon
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2015 20:26    Post subject:
Of course they're paid in real money. Just like TF2 or Dota modders. Some people earn a living with Valve modding, do you think they spend it on games? Laughing
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Kein
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2015 21:28    Post subject:
Fuck bread and butter, in 2015 we eat vidya games.
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2015 21:48    Post subject:
Kein wrote:
Fuck bread and butter, in 2015 we eat vidya games.


What is it with you and trying to sound like every moron on the internet. xD


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2015 22:04    Post subject:
hE IS EVERY MORON


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Apr 2015 22:45    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
Kein wrote:
Fuck bread and butter, in 2015 we eat vidya games.


What is it with you and trying to sound like every moron on the internet. xD


Kein is gonna Kein regardless.


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Kein
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Apr 2015 21:54    Post subject:
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Apr 2015 22:08    Post subject:
so bans now are not applied to all games which use the engine but to single games?
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Kein
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Apr 2015 22:11    Post subject:
Yes, for some specific games that do not use VAC there are game bans. What do they restrict in details is not yet known.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Apr 2015 22:12    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
so bans now are not applied to all games which use the engine but to single games?



no, this is simply a different kind of ban, nothing to do with VAC bans.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Apr 2015 22:18    Post subject:
always good to see they trying to get rid of cheaters in multiplayer. BUT if the dev of a game needs to report an account of the cheater how do they proof it? are there still other anticheat protections on the market which proof cheating?
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Kein
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Apr 2015 22:27    Post subject:
No idea. I mean, it as just released.

Also, overwatch bans are game bans too it seems. Seems like CS:GO only uses it for now. Consider all game bans == overwatch bans.
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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Apr 2015 23:39    Post subject:
Do they offer any kind of proof that this or that gamer is actually a cheater? Without proof this might be abused by pissed off (indie) developers who got badmouthed on their forums for releasing a crappy bugs ridden game or for going back on their word ( Elite dangerous) Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 00:13    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
Do they offer any kind of proof that this or that gamer is actually a cheater? Without proof this might be abused by pissed off (indie) developers who got badmouthed on their forums for releasing a crappy bugs ridden game or for going back on their word ( Elite dangerous) Laughing


Exactly this, we have 'indies' deleting posts/reviews/bans from forums for saying anything bad about the game... now they are going to give them an option to report cheaters Laughing

These days it seems Valve doesn't give a shit or can't think further ahead anymore. Either way it's bad.

And it might be a better idea if they started policing their stores first... Enough cheats on there.


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 17:19    Post subject:
Better think before posting bad games reviews or bitching on forums now ... Shifty Fellar

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 17:36    Post subject:
As above ^^

http://www.kitguru.net/gaming/development/matthew-wilson/valve-can-now-ban-you-from-non-vac-protected-games/

Steam continues to show their slow but inevitable demise. Now you can be banned from VAC games even if you did something in a non-VAC one, such as oh I don't know... not having "digital signatures" on game files? Sayyyyyy, mods don't have legitimate digital signatures, do they? Funny that. Pretty soon "Paid Mods, now with authentic digital signature! No more VAC-bans!"

>_>
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 17:40    Post subject:
Who is pulling so many bs ideas out of their arse over at Valve? Seriously, something like Charlie and the Bullshit Factory over there.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 18:38    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Now you can be banned from VAC games even if you did something in a non-VAC one

It precisely says "game ban", valve isn't allowing publishers to apply VAC bans or banning a player to other games that the one owned by the publisher
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Kein
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 18:56    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 19:09    Post subject:
Kein wrote:

source?
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 19:11    Post subject:
TheAngel wrote:
source?




That's a spoof re-telling of the actual GameBan page on Steam Wink

psikobare wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Now you can be banned from VAC games even if you did something in a non-VAC one

It precisely says "game ban", valve isn't allowing publishers to apply VAC bans or banning a player to other games that the one owned by the publisher


I was referring to the article I linked, but whatever Wink
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TheAngel




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 19:12    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
TheAngel wrote:
source?




That's a spoof re-telling of the actual GameBan page on Steam Wink

psikobare wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Now you can be banned from VAC games even if you did something in a non-VAC one

It precisely says "game ban", valve isn't allowing publishers to apply VAC bans or banning a player to other games that the one owned by the publisher


I was referring to the article I linked, but whatever Wink

Oh, sorry for not getting it Razz.

I was allready getting worried Very Happy
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 19:15    Post subject:
He's got a point though, it won't be long before we see the first example of some pissed off developer abusing their power. They already censor and ban people on their game hubs and, in the case of some truly scummy ones, they send out DMCA notices against negative YT vids. Yeah.. it won't be long before someone leaving a negative review on the store page gets a ban from that game.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 19:29    Post subject:
Oh right, I'm sure we'll see the FEZ dev back soon Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 19:30    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Yeah.. it won't be long before someone leaving a negative review on the store page gets a ban from that game.


I don't think it will be that easy for the devs to do. After all they still have to send in a request to Valve with the reason (and hopefully some kind of proof) for the ban.

But this should hopefully be helpful for those f2p games that are infested with cheaters and all the crap humans. On the other side i doubt devs want to buy mofos that are paying for their items Embarassed



Now that i reread what i wrote though, this feature can only be bad in the end Laughing Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 19:35    Post subject:
http://store.steampowered.com/sale/activision/ Aww Yeah


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2015 21:03    Post subject:
Good, that sounds more like it and far less open to abuse.
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