Enermax Liqtech 240 - finished installing my WC solution
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Apr 2015 17:03    Post subject: Enermax Liqtech 240 - finished installing my WC solution
Yesterday I finished installing my WC solution I bought based on an overwhelming review from JayzTwoCents...



Here is review of it from Techpowerup:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Enermax/Liqtech_240/

My system is a i2600K with 3.4 Ghz baseclock, but now I use it at 4.5Ghz.

I made pictures of the basic installation steps here...





What I have changed overall on my system:

- removed the shitty 3-pin default 120mm rear case fan from Corsair which came with the case
- replaced rear fan with 140mm Noctua NF-A14 ULN using the ultra-low-noise 3-pin adapter that comes with it
- removed the 200mm side window fan from Corsair which came with the case
- installed the old CPU air-coolers fan, a 140mm Alpenfön Wing Boost, on the top-most mounting point of the case's side window (blows air into the CPU area). The sidewindow had multiple fan mounting options (2x 120mm top & bottom, 2x 140mm top & bottom, 1x200mm bottom only)


So the overall cooling strategy is:

- side-window fan blows in cold air at CPU area/level (pull)
- rear case fan blows air out (push)
- WC fans 2x120mm blow air out to the top (push)

The WC solutions custom fans have a switch with 3 different speeds on them, shown here:



I use the slowest/silent setting on the WC solution, aswell as on all the other fans, because I know the fans are all top-notch and the WC unit cooles really well in all situations,
so I don't care about "how cool it get get" in the best case, I only care whether or not it's still in acceptable temp ranges on all silent-mode while still using heafty OC and heavy load.
Besides, I'm not gonna test different fan speeds anyway, because I'd had to open the case up again and remove the WC fans so I reach the switches, the only real downside to this design, IMHO. Only the other fans can be controlled via BIOS settings and tools.

Here are my BIOS settings for CPU/OC and fan controll:








Now I was running OC settings before with air-cooling, but only up to 4.2 Ghz. These are the idle temps/graphs captured with OpenHardwareMonitor:



So using a good CPU cooler (Alpenfön Matterhorn 140mm) brought me good idle temps under 40°C and the load temps for Games & Heaven benchmark were still below 65°C, which also is great for air-cooling.

Now next I made the same testing I did with air-cooled@4.2Ghz, but now with WC@4.5Ghz... and surprising results:



The screenshots above come from leaving Heaven Benchmark on Extreme Preset on for more than 30mins.

As you can see, I had to come to the conclusion that Heaven apparently is not a very good CPU benchmark, because the CPU temps were only fluctuating slightly above the WC idle-temps, which is around 37-38°C. Which is bad, because now I had to search for better CPU benchmarks which I didnt test before with air-cooling. Stupid of me.

Anyway, so I still had to find out what are the extreme max temps when using CPU stress-tests on it.

Therefore, I googled a little around and decided to use prime95, wPrime and AIDA64. Here are some videos I made using speedup/fast-forward to show the heatcurves under load and the cooldown rates.







Basically, although I heard that all those stress tools really take a CPU to it's max, temps never exceeded 64°C on average.
Which I find peculiar, because when I had used air-cooling the difference between load temps and idle temps were 50%. So idle temps were always pretty much exact half of full load temps.
This doesn't seem to be the same with WC. Idle temps 38°C, load temps 64°C, that's not nearly half. I'd expected even lower idle temps. But anyways the temps are not bad either way.

How would you rate these temps?


About noise / silence:

My subjective impression is that I'm ... HIGHLY IMPRESSED. Very Happy
The whole system gives away a humbly dumb humming noise. You can hear it, but it's so dumb (as in the opposite of high-pitched), you forget about it after a while completely!
And that is without any headphones on. As soon as you put headphones on the noise is gone!
I think the noise aspect of it is the part which gives me the most satisfaction, I feared it will be objectively louder, but it is both, cooler and significantly quieter.

Overall I'm happy with this purchase (109€).


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I think the noise aspect of it is the part which gives me the most satisfaction


109 euros of noise cancelling Smile

Try not to upset you but I get that with 4.5ghz with a hairband holding a Y case fan over my standard heat sink that came with the board lol. Gee fucking you lot spend money on some stuff I swear Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Apr 2015 18:41    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
lol fine, but that is just my first test.

Who knows, maybe I go 4.8 Ghz one day or more. Don't know whats realistic with a 2600K yet... I'm still figuring shit out.


Very Happy, it surprised me though when I saw the results here at home, I had an issue where some shit went to hell and I ended up using a standard heat sink on the new board and thought it will do for now. I then realised my fan from the old board did not fit and had to think on my toes so I grabed a hair band thing women use and stretched that over the latches of the boards normal heat sink mount and over the Y fan, its not a 120 size just an 80.

I first run it with 4.3ghz overclock for giggles Very Happy - I got 28c on idle and no more on long played heavy games of 48-52c. I was gobsmacked and thought why the fuck have I been using all this new fandangle fan and sink shit these years if I can get away with this. *shrug*

I have not bothered changing it since because there seems to be no need right now. I use HWID monitor AID A64 to see the temps.

P.s If you saw my cpu area with this shit you would laugh like hell Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Apr 2015 19:30    Post subject:
need a case that is just a frame. load up one side with 4 of those and another 4 behind the board sucking out two on top one at back. Just a like a wire frame no real paneling .

A suspended motherboard I guess Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Apr 2015 00:37    Post subject:
I just got macho 120 and have 35 C temperature with no audible 1000rpm fan Laughing
And all that with my 2500k at 4.5

I was thinking about closed loop but it's always too expensive, loud and requires way to much hassle and space to set (not that macho is small) tho I always liked the cool look


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i would suggest doing this kind of setup for your fans (remove that side fan completely, you wont need it).



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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Apr 2015 02:43    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
i would suggest doing this kind of setup for your fans (remove that side fan completely, you wont need it).



pro paint skills at nearly 3 am. Trust me, this is going to work much better that your current one.
Er... top fans blowing rising hot air BACK into the case? Scratch Head


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Apr 2015 10:42    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:
i would suggest doing this kind of setup for your fans (remove that side fan completely, you wont need it).



pro paint skills at nearly 3 am. Trust me, this is going to work much better that your current one.
Er... top fans blowing rising hot air BACK into the case? Scratch Head


I think thats the radiator and fan cooling for that no? if it is I would not put the radiator at the top with fans that side of the case. Either way if its not that the fan sould be extracting the air from the case like my top large one is, as mentioned.

Its not rocket science Very Happy you force colder air through the system over the components and draw it out the back. The top fan's are usually for the fact they are close to the cpu heat area and extracting it out the top as it rises. The difference here though is he is using water cooling so its not as the old system would of worked.

the best setup for fans and a water rad is the rad in the front of the case, but you need a bigger case for this as you would also need fans that blow air through the case as well making the tower taller.

Go get a server tower and mod it, you can get a nice bit of room with it being much taller. This is the best bet I think.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Apr 2015 10:49    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Er... top fans blowing rising hot air BACK into the case? Scratch Head


It's creating positive air pressure in the case and a near perfect flow from sucking cool air above the case (surprisingly not as hot as you'd think ), blowing it over the CPU area, then exhausting out the back. A lot of people swear by having more inputs than out, especially pulling from front and top and exhaust out the back. There's also this;

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The positive air pressure way is good in theory, the temperature drops but after a period of time temp will raise because hot air stays inside due to low exhaust CFM
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Apr 2015 12:33    Post subject:
Well shit, if Tom's is saying it then fuck that.. when I do my rig cleanup (even with filters on every fan, the dust build clogging fans/radiator/heatsink is *insane*) I'll be trying out some different settings. Right now I have;

Front intake. 1x120MM
Side intake. 1x120MM
HDD bay horizontal push exhaust, kind of works as both intake/exhaust due to the slimness of the case. 1x120MM
Rear exhaust, push/pull H80, 2x120MM
Top intake. 1x200MM directly above/towards the H80 rad.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Apr 2015 13:19    Post subject:
No filters here straight through flow. Never had any issues. never needed water cooling. Does everyone have the indoor thermostat at high or something Very Happy

the best air circulation for your pc is not in your pc its in your home. I have a window slightly cracked open here in the pc room and the kitchen. with the doors open the draw of air is nice, you know its good when doors want to slam shut lol. That alone helps a ton. But then I like the cold more than the heat. Can't stand being like that, rather put more clothing on to keep warm and have the air cold. Very Happy

what would be awesome is what we had at our server room at the bank Very Happy that big ass wall chiller hehe now there was a room with no hot hardware.
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