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| Posted: Tue, 7th Apr 2015 23:12 Post subject: |
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| spankie wrote: | Yeah, well I did push a lot. And she was quite convincingly on the 'No', multiple times. So, I guess the only option was semi-rape. So dunno whether she was DTF or DTFbutpreferablynot or not DTF, I don't want to test it.
And with the statistical advice. 1) There was no sex on the first date (well, using the Bill Gates definition of sex), so skank risk reduced 2) and yeah, I can also work out 1 and 1 is 2. Although we all would love to bang on the first date without any effort, it's probably preferred if she shows some sort of resistance. 3) I have the cell nr and she added me on FB (not me, but she), so I assume she won't disappear after 2 fucks? Well at least hope so, that would be strange.
In the end, we are all adults, right, as long as we are having fun and the rules are clear, what can happen? Well, you can get a broken heart, but then again, you had mighty sex and an ego boost, which is also nice. 
At least she's making me chase a bit, every man loves a chase, right? I haven't had a gazillion one night stands, but the once I had were like a bad story written 'a man walks into a bar and goes to a brunette, he offers her one drink and takes her for a dance. After 10 minutes he kisses her and proposes to go home and fuck, she goes along. After the sex he feels abused, as being a warm vibrator instead of cold plastic one'. |
My previous post was just mainly baiting generalizations, but to be serious about it:
I've had a couple of friends now, who have recently tried tinder. To cut the story short, the most important thing is to clarify as soon as possible, what you and your partner are looking for. Most women (not all) are not dating material on tinder, and they probably never will be.
Just be extra careful with the speed you build up this new relationship, perhaps at this point it's unclear if you really like her (for which you must know her), or if you just really find yourself attracted to her.
Past behaviour is the best indicator for future behaviour, not matter what liberated feminists tell us.
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spankie
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Apr 2015 23:22 Post subject: |
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| Radicalus wrote: | | spankie wrote: | Yeah, well I did push a lot. And she was quite convincingly on the 'No', multiple times. So, I guess the only option was semi-rape. So dunno whether she was DTF or DTFbutpreferablynot or not DTF, I don't want to test it.
And with the statistical advice. 1) There was no sex on the first date (well, using the Bill Gates definition of sex), so skank risk reduced 2) and yeah, I can also work out 1 and 1 is 2. Although we all would love to bang on the first date without any effort, it's probably preferred if she shows some sort of resistance. 3) I have the cell nr and she added me on FB (not me, but she), so I assume she won't disappear after 2 fucks? Well at least hope so, that would be strange.
In the end, we are all adults, right, as long as we are having fun and the rules are clear, what can happen? Well, you can get a broken heart, but then again, you had mighty sex and an ego boost, which is also nice.
At least she's making me chase a bit, every man loves a chase, right? I haven't had a gazillion one night stands, but the once I had were like a bad story written 'a man walks into a bar and goes to a brunette, he offers her one drink and takes her for a dance. After 10 minutes he kisses her and proposes to go home and fuck, she goes along. After the sex he feels abused, as being a warm vibrator instead of cold plastic one'. |
My previous post was just mainly baiting generalizations, but to be serious about it:
I've had a couple of friends now, who have recently tried tinder. To cut the story short, the most important thing is to clarify as soon as possible, what you and your partner are looking for. Most women (not all) are not dating material on tinder, and they probably never will be.
Just be extra careful with the speed you build up this new relationship, perhaps at this point it's unclear if you really like her (for which you must know her), or if you just really find yourself attracted to her.
Past behaviour is the best indicator for future behaviour, not matter what liberated feminists tell us. |
Yeah I know. To be honest, it was not Tinder, but a dating website. But I feel ashamed  At least she paid some money to find a mate (well actually her mom used daddy's VISA as she was tired of the daughter being single for 9 months or so... in retrospect, this does not add any evidence to my hopes of long term success...)
But I agree that those flings that go up very very very fast, tend to end up in wreckage some weeks later. But I had more passion in a 2h couch session than in my last six months with the ex, let me enjoy 
And well I must agree I am attracted, I've only seen her twice, 10h in total or so, of which we spent 6h in the couch doing funny stuff. So, saying i 'know' her would be an exagerration  Yesterday I was kissing her in the couch and then I stopped for a second to ask her 'what's your last name', which I thought was quite funny.
And she is pretty, but not 'hot'. Like 7.5 or so (god, i am objectyfying *hide for feminazis*). But she has some special touch, dunno what.
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Apr 2015 23:50 Post subject: |
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You shouldn't feel ashamed, mate. I'd faster use a paying dating site than Tinder. If she was single for 9 months, that's not so bad either - means she CAN be single, and doesn't have to jump from one cock straight to the next.
Also, imho, what has the world come to, when we can't rate a woman's hotness on a scale, be damned sure they do it as well.
My advice? (I know you never asked, lel) Enjoy it, but then before you fall in love with her, spend some time getting to know her. That can end in two ways, you can become disillusioned, or you can fall in love with her, if her personality is right as well. Just set aside time for dates as well, you might reall have found a keeper - but who knows.
Don't show her the hump just yet >D
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spankie
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 11:03 Post subject: |
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yeah true, mysterious ways.
She was supposed to come yesterday around 8PM. All of a sudden I got a message she would only be able to come by for a short period of time around 10PM. So that was kinda strange already.
Then she came at 10. And I wanted to kiss her, but she said 'no, I don't know you enough yet'. I am like 'ok, let's get to know each other then'. So we had a drink and talked a little bit. Then at 11PM she says 'Well, I gotta go again'. So I play along and say, 'fine, see you next time'. Then she starts walking towards my door, obviously expecting me to stop her and asking her to stay longer, which I refuse to do. She did refuse the kiss, right, so she has to show some initiative.
Then I go towards the door to open the door and say her goodbye. So what happens then? So instead of exiting, she all of a sudden explodes in passion... fast forward 30 minutes, we are both naked in my bed, humping like a champ. So I ask her to stay for the night, which she refuses.
Then she starts a story she is afraid of commitment, she first didn't want to come because she panicked, she only wanted to come by and tell me she wouldnt come by anymore in the future. When I explained her I am not expecting any sort of commitment for the time being, 'it's not like we are married' (btw should have seen her face when I pronounced the marriage word ), she said she would come over again in the future, "but maybe that would be the last time, maybe not". "I am not good a commitments, I took a 10 yr mortgage to not have a 20yr commitment". Strange female species in the world.
Anyway, after I tried a bit to keep her in my bed butt naked, she finally got up and got dressed (almost 1 AM at that time, who goes back home at 1 AM after some sexy time?) and 'wanted to leave'. Took more than 30 minutes to go from the bed to the door. She didn't want to leave, she didn't want to stay. In the end she was holding me in the door opening and kissing me in the hallway and I had to 'force' her outside because I have to get up at 6.30AM, and it was already 1.30AM....
I am kinda confused at the moment. I feel abused, I got used for sexy time!
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 13:22 Post subject: |
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See that's exactly what I mean. So many girls don't have a freaking clue what they want. Then they complain about how they can't find a suitable partner. Just make up your mind, you either want a relationship and commitment or you don't. Just be straight up with it.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 21:52 Post subject: |
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| H4wkeye wrote: | | See that's exactly what I mean. So many girls don't have a freaking clue what they want. Then they complain about how they can't find a suitable partner. Just make up your mind, you either want a relationship and commitment or you don't. Just be straight up with it. |
Not only girls, it's the entirety of gen Y, who have no clue (and not only, when it comes to relationships), what they want. All they know is, that they are special :DDD
There are plenty exceptions though.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2015 22:22 Post subject: |
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sounds like his D went into crazy, pandoras box opened
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2015 23:01 Post subject: |
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spankie
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| PickupArtist wrote: | | sounds like his D went into crazy, pandoras box opened |
So wednesday was a bit awkward. She was blowing hot and cold, but once we got physical, things felt not awkward at all. 'maybe we will have another date, maybe not'. Goddamnit, squeezing my balls. Recipe for broken heart, right, basically shutting me off right after the hottest sex in ~10years.
So I decided to take the risk and not initiate any contact anymore. So she sent me some messages thursday and friday and I replied on one of them 'want to go to watch a sports game on saturday, I have 1 extra ticket' [which was true btw]. And she refused. And then I didn't hear anything from here in like 48h. So I was starting to think 'well, was fun, move on'.
I was in all sorts of emotions, because after the sexy time, I cleared my entire dating schedule, which was a fun set of phonecalls to other females 'yeah, we will have to cancel our date. Why? Did I meet someone else? Sort of. *awkward silence*. Bye'. But I saw the horror scenario unfold as i cancelled my 3 backup plans and was going to end up with empty hands...
So I was contemplating to send her a message for another date. But A-hole lesson #1, let her sweat, don't be needy. So I hold my horses.
Ok, now comes the fun part, btw, excuses for my long post, I sound like a 16yr old, but I am kinda happy at the moment, so whatever. Couple of hours ago, I got a message from her 'how was your weekend'. Then some chit chat back and forth. Then all of a sudden, rather out of the blue this conversation ...
'did you go on any other dates?' [She]
- 'No, you? [Me]'
'No, and will keep it that way. Still recovering from your date'
-'Btw, I did cancel a date, didnt feel like seeing someone else after I saw you'
'Oh funny, I also cancelled a date. Was planned well ahead, but didn't feel like it'
'Kinda tiring, meeting new people, except when they are exceptional kissers [fuck me right?]
'Maybe we do should meet again' [Did this really happen? After I was complemented for being a good kisser, this hot female asks me out on another date!]
-'I am not going to say no. You pick date and location'
'Ok!!!!!'
'Going to bed now. any closing remarks for me?'
-'Some kisses, you might get some more in real next date'
'might??'
Well, she still might throw me away after next date, but any man would be happy, right? And she's so hot, goddamnit
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Apr 2015 23:50 Post subject: |
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Dude, I'm happy for you, but be careful!
I myself never believe in dating multiple people at the same time (some people do this). I make it very clear at first date, that I'm not in to that kind of thing. If you fancy me, then let's date, I'm relationship material, but I don't play games. I'm very firm about this, and it has always worked. Women appreciate strong stances.
She's shit testing you a bit.
This is a gamble, but next date, before you sleep with her, make an attempt to lay down ground rules. Do this in a very confident fashion. Odds are, she'll accept, and you will have gained a massive amount of respect. Do not become fuck buddies, because she doesn't want to commit, because then you will never become more, and your heart will ache.
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Meh, doesn't look too good IMO... shit games
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Apr 2015 01:12 Post subject: |
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Personally, I dislike girls like this who don't know what the hell they want. You either want to date me or not. I just make that very clear at the start. If you are going back and forth constantly, then GG have fun I'm outta there. It's just too much bs hence why I gave up on dating for a couple years now, don't have the time to be bothered with all the bs.
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| H4wkeye wrote: | | Personally, I dislike girls like this who don't know what the hell they want. You either want to date me or not. I just make that very clear at the start. If you are going back and forth constantly, then GG have fun I'm outta there. It's just too much bs hence why I gave up on dating for a couple years now, don't have the time to be bothered with all the bs. |
+1
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2015 19:00 Post subject: |
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That sounds great Spankie.  I gave her one week initially, but given the hostile circumstances and crazy female variables, seems that buttsecs has only been slightly delayed. Have fun! 
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2015 20:10 Post subject: |
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She's drama further allong the path. But as long as you know and enjoy it... have fun. Personally, I wouldn't put time or effort in one of those 
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2015 16:22 Post subject: |
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drama drama drama, as predicted... I should have listened to you guys. I think she's a major cock tease. She's always messaging me to ask how I am, what I am doing, asking personal stuff, explaining how she feels etc; and like 80% of the time she is initiating the conversation. If I reply with dirty talk, I get dirty talk back.
But seeing each other?, no no, always radio silence or cancel. But we had sexy time already, so I dunno what's going on. Maybe she doesn't want to sleep over because she's living at her parents place during her renovations and then she might have to explain being away during the night.
She asked if she could sleep over yesterday night, I did not push anything, she proposed it herself. So she sent quite a lot of messages yesterday and the night before she was looking forward to sleeping over, which I was obviously also looking forward to. Then yesterday I had a rough day at work so I sent her a message 'rough day at work, can use some entertainment this evening', she sends a message back 'troubles with renovation works, need to see engineer and contractor this evening to keep works going tomorrow' and some more information. So i reply with 'sux, was looking forward to it'. Then radio silence for like hours. Then around 22h I get a ton of messages 'she is feeling very agitated because of the renovation stuff and she likes to be alone then', 'are you mad?, I would understand'. So I reply with 'not mad, disappointed, but thanks for cancelling my evening, could watch the soccer game now'. And then when I was in bed, she started asking personal stuff and telling personal stuff via phone messages; like how many relations I had before and how/why I broke up, how my house hunting is going, how my day at work was, how I was feeling, how she was feeling with the renovations, why she was freaking out.
So I do belief she was kinda freaking out with the renovation stuff, right? But she then continued to say she was 'at ease with being single so she was denying or running away from intimacy or connectedness; goodnight stranger X'.
And then again this morning I got, totally out of the blue, at 9AM, a message. 'Hi'.
So what the F is going on. So we had semi sexy time after 3 days, for real sexy time after 5 days, and now she has been a teasing miss ice queen for a week but continues to pursue me via messages. This doesn't sound too right, no idea what to do.
'Come over, want to fuck your brains out, no strings attached?' is becoming an option in my book...
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spankie
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2015 16:48 Post subject: |
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Well, I told her I like her and that we should enjoy the moment and see where it goes, but the only answer I get then is 'i am afraid of commitment'.
I mean, I made the move to kiss her, true, but she jumped on me and started rubbing her booty over my boner. What kinda man would say 'no, go away'... So yeah, I did like the sexy time a lot, which does not mean it's the only thing I want...
But it's spinning my head around all the time...
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2015 16:51 Post subject: |
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Protip:
Message:
I tire of your constant tease, woman. I want you on my cock by 10 pm TONIGHT! See you then. Arrive wet, I consider all the messages we exchanged the past few days forplays.
Seriously though:
She's playing the chat game with you, because you allow it. In a situation like this, tell her, you will gladly discuss these things. In person. She wants to know you better? Great, you want to know her better, there is only one way: meeting up.
Be firm and confident.
Women will play games, if you allow it. Tell her you want to date her (which is obvious to me), you don't want games. Demand respect. It's only fair that way.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2015 16:56 Post subject: |
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| spankie wrote: | drama drama drama, as predicted... I should have listened to you guys. I think she's a major cock tease. She's always messaging me to ask how I am, what I am doing, asking personal stuff, explaining how she feels etc; and like 80% of the time she is initiating the conversation. If I reply with dirty talk, I get dirty talk back.
But seeing each other?, no no, always radio silence or cancel. But we had sexy time already, so I dunno what's going on. Maybe she doesn't want to sleep over because she's living at her parents place during her renovations and then she might have to explain being away during the night.
She asked if she could sleep over yesterday night, I did not push anything, she proposed it herself. So she sent quite a lot of messages yesterday and the night before she was looking forward to sleeping over, which I was obviously also looking forward to. Then yesterday I had a rough day at work so I sent her a message 'rough day at work, can use some entertainment this evening', she sends a message back 'troubles with renovation works, need to see engineer and contractor this evening to keep works going tomorrow' and some more information. So i reply with 'sux, was looking forward to it'. Then radio silence for like hours. Then around 22h I get a ton of messages 'she is feeling very agitated because of the renovation stuff and she likes to be alone then', 'are you mad?, I would understand'. So I reply with 'not mad, disappointed, but thanks for cancelling my evening, could watch the soccer game now'. And then when I was in bed, she started asking personal stuff and telling personal stuff via phone messages; like how many relations I had before and how/why I broke up, how my house hunting is going, how my day at work was, how I was feeling, how she was feeling with the renovations, why she was freaking out.
So I do belief she was kinda freaking out with the renovation stuff, right? But she then continued to say she was 'at ease with being single so she was denying or running away from intimacy or connectedness; goodnight stranger X'.
And then again this morning I got, totally out of the blue, at 9AM, a message. 'Hi'.
So what the F is going on. So we had semi sexy time after 3 days, for real sexy time after 5 days, and now she has been a teasing miss ice queen for a week but continues to pursue me via messages. This doesn't sound too right, no idea what to do.
'Come over, want to fuck your brains out, no strings attached?' is becoming an option in my book... |
From my experience girls who go down to sexy times so fast are usually not the keeper kind. They just want to vent frustration or just have sex for whichever reason they have in their mind (could be anger, annoyance for something, sadness etc.) As I said before, thread carefully. All the things you say is just making me think more and more that you should just ditch her and save yourself frustration down the road.
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id be real carefull
I'm like almost 11 years older than you and still can't figure them out. 
I wish you the best luck!
