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 Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 19:36 Post subject: Message to Riquelme, English players have no technique |
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 20:41 Post subject: |
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Haha great it's a shame you perform in friendlies but get RAPED in major tournaments.
Im a cockfag
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 21:15 Post subject: |
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Other way round usually. Reached semis in both European and World Cup.
What a game, Argentina played well also. Considering Robihno gets all the attention and is 21, Wayne Rooney is just 20, and was performing in the champions league at 19.
hehe, are you Scottish/Welsh/Irish by any chance:)
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 21:35 Post subject: |
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FUCKING ENGLAND COCKFAGS DIE.
AGRENTINA FTW.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 21:40 Post subject: |
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FUCKING ENGLAND COCKFAGS DIE.
AGRENTINA FTW.
Except they didn't. Good point though.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 21:47 Post subject: |
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| mwamwa6 wrote: | FUCKING ENGLAND COCKFAGS DIE.
AGRENTINA FTW.
Except they didn't. Good point though. |
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 21:59 Post subject: |
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yeah, i love it
even play it myself 
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 22:03 Post subject: |
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>even play it myself
I didn't realise.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 22:03 Post subject: |
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it's ok 
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 22:05 Post subject: |
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Hehe, you don't get to 4300 posts by keeping it inteligent people.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 22:08 Post subject: |
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lol what does soccer and porn have to do 2gether
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 22:08 Post subject: |
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Players and Technique/Dirty, Filthy Sex with a twist.
"Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 22:09 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Nov 2005 22:24 Post subject: |
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heh, don't get side tracked. Bring it on genius.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005 01:08 Post subject: |
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Even though i'm english and loved the victory I can't help but thinking it was because riquelme was taken off (i think it was just before owen's first goal) that England won. He was playing amazingly well and did boss it a lot. I cant help but ask.. why the fuck does every1 think Terry is the number 1 central defender and campbell and ferdinand need to battle for 2nd spot? Fuck him, he's a fat slow cunt and was caught hugging the goal line as opposed to attacking the ball when crespo scored. Also same with samuel's goal... if he wants to be captain he should boss the area and shoulda noticed that konchesky was alone defending against two people, whther or not he thought he was gonna go for goal it was obviously a possiblilty.
Also I don't see how England can surivve without owen and rooney. I don't think defoe is half as good as owen and as for crouch... not a chance! I think darren bent would be my choice but I don't think he's gonna get a chance.
O and another rant.... why does every1 assume that gary neville will return at right back? I mean he's good but I believe that with a few more games under his belt young will be better than neville. Gary is good but bums beckham too much which I find irritating!
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005 11:14 Post subject: |
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Agree with you about Riquelme, he is a fantastic footballer, but he's like Rooney, if he wants to turn it on there isn't really a strategy to stop him. That's what made the game so good, the fact that both teams played really well, usually the team that loses plays shit. And it's also the first time since France that we've performed against a A+ team.
The message was really because in Riquelmes press interview he was banding around all the factory statements about English players being long ball physical merchants with no technique. Steven Gerrard wins champions league final pretty much on his own and we still get the Wimbledon bollocks:)
Think Terrys quality, but it's all about opinions.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005 11:19 Post subject: |
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he's fat and too slow. Watch him closely. He's only not shown to be a fool so much at chelsea because he has makelele, the best holdin midfielder around, and gallas who is rapid and probably the fastest defender in England. If it wasn't for these two I don't think he would get anywhere... carvalho is alright but when those two play you immediately see the difference.
And like I said... requelme was taken off because 'he was tired' but I believe his presence was enough to halt england. He coulda played like the 1980's greats like socrates and 'walked'. You rarely saw them run but exploded when needed.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005 11:30 Post subject: |
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>he's fat and too slow. Watch him closely. He's only not shown to be a fool so much at >chelsea because he has makelele, the best holdin midfielder around, and gallas who is >rapid and probably the fastest defender in England. If it wasn't for these two I don't >think he would get anywhere... carvalho is alright but when those two play you >immediately see the difference.
>A
I think when you reach that level of Footballer you're talking fractions, so he's maybe not the fastest, but he's certainly not slow. Every premiership footballer is an athlete, it's a pre-requisit. Also you haven't mentioned organisation, communication, motivation, or are these not important qualities for a central defender. Generally I have my preferences, but If you look at the esteem he holds with his fellow proffesionals, people employed to know the game.........
>And like I said... requelme was taken off because 'he was tired' but I believe his >presence was enough to halt england. He coulda played like the 1980's greats like >socrates and 'walked'. You rarely saw them run but exploded when needed.
Halt England is wrong, there where chances at both ends throughout, when he went off Argentina were in the Ascendancy, they didn't nullify England by any stretch of the imagination.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005 11:43 Post subject: |
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yea but to conceed two goal like that? Admittedly one of them was on the break but I just believe that losing a key player like that does have an effect. Added to the fact that argentina used 4 (or 50 subs, affected the 'team unit'
he is slow. Saying he's not slow is like saying hyypia isn't slow! I honestly don't know who would win a race out of these two snails but it'd be pretty slow. He doesn't have great 'off the mark' speed and I don't think he can read the game better than campbell and his final touch isn't half as good as rio's. He's an alright replacement but I don't think he's the number 1 simply because mourinho thinks so.... he thinks drgoba and huth are good!
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005 11:49 Post subject: |
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Hehe, football is subjective. My opinion is no better than yours and I can tell I'm not going to convince you so we're never going to resolve this.
You're right about losing Riquelme i think, but then if he can't maintain that position for 90mins maybe that's why he didn't make it at Barcelona. Argentina certainly didn't make substitutions to give players a run out, they wanted to improve their chances of winning.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005 12:06 Post subject: |
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I don't believe that really and at 2-1 up with 5 mniutes to go who would think you're gonna conceed two goals?
And as for riquelme makin it into barca. like in the commentary it was because he was competin with rivaldo who I don't think any1 woulda replaced at the time. And also some world class players develop in their new teams. Do you think ronaldinho was as good for PSG as he is for barca? look at forlan.
trust me.. next time u watch motd or soccer saturday or w/e it is you watch. Look at how terry plays as an individual. I know it's a team game but England just doesn't have a makelele so his pace IS a deciding factor. I believe that the tackling / dead ball defending of all three is pretty equal but campbell/rio's pace and last touch are much better. I also believe campbell and rio work better as a partnership.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005 12:25 Post subject: |
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>I don't believe that really and at 2-1 up with 5 mniutes to go who would think you're >gonna conceed two goals?
Fair enough, like I said before opinions. The fact that this is an argument that can't be won coupled with the fact that in all your posts you haven't demonstrated the possibility that you might be receptive to an opinion other than your own makes me think the argument itself is your motivation. Like i said, fair enough.
>And as for riquelme makin it into barca. like in the commentary it was because he was >competin with rivaldo who I don't think any1 woulda replaced at the time. And also some >world class players develop in their new teams. Do you think ronaldinho was as good for >PSG as he is for barca? look at forlan.
So you refute the opinion of every professional within football regarding the ability of John Terry, but when a journalist with no professional background in the game clarifies your point it becomes written in stone.
>trust me.. next time u watch motd or soccer saturday or w/e it is you watch. Look at >how terry plays as an individual. I know it's a team game but England just doesn't have >a makelele so his pace IS a deciding factor. I believe that the tackling / dead ball >defending of all three is pretty equal but campbell/rio's pace and last touch are much >better. I also believe campbell and rio work better as a partnership.
Hehe, maybe you do know more than me about the game, but you haven't demonstrated it here, and i'm certainly not going to trust you.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005 12:33 Post subject: |
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well not 'trusting me' is showing your inability to accept other peoples opinions!
I don't believe a journalist has said what I wrote. I'm sure playing with him will be different and he's not terrible, england are just lucky to have 3 of the worlds best central defenders I just don't believe terry is the first or 2nd best option we have. He's carried too much by makelele and gallas and if you put him in a unit like tottenham I think he will look distinctly average and probably made to look worse than king.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005 12:47 Post subject: |
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>well not 'trusting me' is showing your inability to accept other peoples opinions!
Do you actually believe this. In every one of my posts I've respected your view as being equivalent to mine.
>I don't believe a journalist has said what I wrote.
In your previous post you backed up your point about why Riquelme didn't make it at Barcelona with the opinion of a commentator, and presented it as if fact.
Is this fun for you.
He's good....
He's bad....
He's good.....
He's bad......
Are you the forum smart arse pissing on your territory. You can have it after this post.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005 13:26 Post subject: |
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no The commentator stated that he was battling with rivaldo for a place at barc. It's quite obvious that rivaldo was one of the best players in the world a few years ago so that's why he didn't play consistently.
fact that in all your posts you haven't demonstrated the possibility that you might be receptive to an opinion other than your own makes me think the argument itself is your motivation. = 'you not being able to accept peoples opinions'. I only recommended you watch a chelsea game and terry's own individual performance and the way he plays and then you can see for yourself.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Nov 2005 14:31 Post subject: |
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Hehe, had a beer couldn't resist.
>no The commentator stated that he was battling with rivaldo for a place at barc. It's quite obvious that rivaldo was one of the best players in the world a few years ago so that's why he didn't play consistently.
As I said, you said this is why Riquelme left Barca, and presented it as fact. Rivaldo is years older than Riquelme, who only left Barca last season. Rivaldo hasn't been there in 3/4 seasons. I may be wrong, but then I can realise that my statements are opinion, not fact. My opinion on why he was sold: I don't have one.
> 'you not being able to accept peoples opinions'. I only recommended you watch a chelsea game and terry's own individual performance and the way he plays and then you can see for yourself.
I think you'll find that in one of my posts I've accepted the possibility that you may know more than me on the subject, fact is, I don't know you or how much you know. But if you think that you're getting your point accross eloquently, do a poll to see who thinks John Terry is shit.
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