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JBeckman
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Wonder what it costs on GOG with the VPN trick then?
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 09:29 Post subject: |
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19 Euro here. Still won't buy it.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 09:36 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | 19 Euro here. Still won't buy it. |
+1
Rather save the money for the Dragon Age DLC.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 09:47 Post subject: |
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not bad price especially compared to how Bioware charging 15bucks for such a worthless DLC like Jaws of Hakon
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 09:56 Post subject: |
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for 25 bucks you will get a addon with around 30-40 hours gameplay. New zones, new story, new npcs, new enemies, new quests, ..
After you get 16 free DLCs with the normal price, its okay if they charge 25dollar for such a big addon.
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prudislav
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 10:03 Post subject: |
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common ma just read what they said properly - they've always said that those 16 DLCs will be free and that they will charge for big 15-20h ones
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 10:06 Post subject: |
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200 hours? No way, do they mean with expansions etc?
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 10:07 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 10:30 Post subject: |
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I don't want to imply anything. I just have a feeling after the numerous delays and during the long optimization process they decided to start work on expansions. I sure hope it's not a cut content, but who knows really.
The insider on neogaf a year ago hinted the whole development process was a bit of a mess.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 10:37 Post subject: |
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There is a difference though between content cut for development reasons and later repurposed/reused and content always intended to be in the game but cynically excised to be sold for extra cash. An example of the later is Mass Effect 3's day one Prothean DLC. It's content on the disc and integrated into the whole game. All buying it did was unlock it. As I said before, if that were the case for TW3, it would be day one DLC, or at least coming very soon after launch, not 6 and 12 months later.
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prudislav
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 10:40 Post subject: |
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| bronson wrote: | | I just have a feeling after the numerous delays and during the long optimization process they decided to start work on expansions. |
thats just how it works in development (not only in games)
content creators like quest designers writes are entirely different people than optimizators , tsters and overall poeple doing technical side of things
- i guess some of those content creators went to make expansions and some were moved to Cyberpunk
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 10:59 Post subject: |
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Wut?
So, 200+ hours game = 30 hours game price wise?
Go fuck urself cd projekt 
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 11:00 Post subject: |
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Many people pre-ordered W3 for 500RU before the currency devaluation.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 11:04 Post subject: |
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Yep, but you don't make an announcement that early if you started work on it recently. I'm not familiar with their development process, but generally when there is contradictory information floating around the product suffers. They could have waited six months and announce the expansions. The game would have been released and if it's incredible it would boost their sales even more. Currently it just looks bad in the eyes of some people and even it it was a marketing strategy they should have made a change after the whole downgrade talk in the past few months.
The Witcher 3's development reminds me of Mafia 2 and F.E.A.R. 2. - both games were good, but did not meet the expectations and ultimately underperformed.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 11:05 Post subject: |
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If I buy it on steam, will I be able to activate steam key on gog? And another thing.. if I buy it on gog, will I get a steam key too?
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 11:09 Post subject: |
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No to the second question, not sure about the first.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 11:17 Post subject: |
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Dear oh dear...
W1.. bought.
W2... preordered boxed copy.
W3... will gleefully pirate shit out of.
Why? Because Microsoft. They are more than likely the culprit behind the DLC scam. CDPR were once a proper PC developer - I still remember the cool messages hidden in their youtube vids.
But now? Profit has taken over, with M$ swinging the dollar stick hard into their anuses.
Someone said 'it's the way the market is now'. That doesn't make it right.
I honestly wonder how far these publishers are going to push this. Are we going to simply 'lease' the rights to play as say, Batman, in the near future, for £$€39.99, and once we've d/l the core game engine, we download the individual missions as DLC? For say, £$€9.99? 3 for £$€24.99?
After all, that's basically what map packs are, and the extra missions in Batman, DX:HR etc etc.
Of course developers need to make money. Of course big publishers are going to buy up as many smaller ones as possible. Of course this all happens without thought to the customer.
But you mark my words, this isn't going to end well.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 11:42 Post subject: |
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| Kaltern wrote: |
Why? Because Microsoft. They are more than likely the culprit behind the DLC scam. CDPR were once a proper PC developer |
Mmmmm... to be fair, expansion packs have always been a PC thing, since the days of games sold on CDs.
Protest that they announced it too early if you want, or that it's too short/expensive/whatever, but saying its a "console thing that corrupted PC gaming" is just pure and simple bullshit, expansions as a concept were born on PC.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 11:49 Post subject: |
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| Kaltern wrote: | Dear oh dear...
W1.. bought.
W2... preordered boxed copy.
W3... will gleefully pirate shit out of.
Why? Because Microsoft. They are more than likely the culprit behind the DLC scam. CDPR were once a proper PC developer - I still remember the cool messages hidden in their youtube vids.
But now? Profit has taken over, with M$ swinging the dollar stick hard into their anuses.
Someone said 'it's the way the market is now'. That doesn't make it right.
I honestly wonder how far these publishers are going to push this. Are we going to simply 'lease' the rights to play as say, Batman, in the near future, for £$€39.99, and once we've d/l the core game engine, we download the individual missions as DLC? For say, £$€9.99? 3 for £$€24.99?
After all, that's basically what map packs are, and the extra missions in Batman, DX:HR etc etc.
Of course developers need to make money. Of course big publishers are going to buy up as many smaller ones as possible. Of course this all happens without thought to the customer.
But you mark my words, this isn't going to end well. |
you must be shitting me... what kind of idiotic fandom
OH NOES, MY FAVOURITEST DEVELOPER DID SOMETHING SCUMMY... IT MUST BE SOMEONE ELSES FAULT!
no... no... and no. this is cdpr finally cashing in on all the goodwill they built up from the first two games for PRECISELY THIS REASON - they always intended to bust into the AAA gaming industry, so this was always on the cards for them... always how they intended to be, pushing paid dlc and cutting corners on their games and not pushing individual platform strengths so as to not offend their console audience - they deserve ALL the credit for this, its the direction THEY chose to take their business. just because you dont want to believe it, doesnt make it any less true.
so please. dont sell cdpr short... this is their glorious triumph and hard-won future, and they didnt need anyone else to get them to this point  |
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| bronson wrote: | Yep, but you don't make an announcement that early if you started work on it recently. I'm not familiar with their development process, but generally when there is contradictory information floating around the product suffers. They could have waited six months and announce the expansions. The game would have been released and if it's incredible it would boost their sales even more. Currently it just looks bad in the eyes of some people and even it it was a marketing strategy they should have made a change after the whole downgrade talk in the past few months.
The Witcher 3's development reminds me of Mafia 2 and F.E.A.R. 2. - both games were good, but did not meet the expectations and ultimately underperformed. |
yep only asshole move from what i read is that they announced it way too soon, they should at least wait for game's release - and i guess it looks bad or treacherous to some people
Dont know about FEAR 2 .But with M2 it was completely different than how it looks now with W3. It was mostly creative battle between designers (especially D. Vávra) and 2K itself. It pretty much ended up in several cuts of the game's content (melee weapons, whole WW2 chapter,....) and half of the team leaving 2KCzech (to create Warhorse Studios), because those cuts were too much for them.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 12:53 Post subject: |
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CDP evidently still has a lot to learn from the big boys. The smart move would have been to release the game first and when the "10/10 would suck cock to play" reviews come rolling in, then put the expansionDLC up for preorders (but not too late because then real people would have had a chance to play it and possibly post online that the game, in fact, sucks).
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 13:38 Post subject: |
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The shilling is astonishing.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 14:11 Post subject: |
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| pillermann wrote: | | CDP evidently still has a lot to learn from the big boys. The smart move would have been to release the game first and when the "10/10 would suck cock to play" reviews come rolling in, then put the expansionDLC up for preorders (but not too late because then real people would have had a chance to play it and possibly post online that the game, in fact, sucks). |
+1, it was really idiotic to announce it before the game
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 17:23 Post subject: |
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Expansion 1 Late October
Expansion 2 Q1 2016
30H gameplay for what, 25 euro? I really don't see the issue here.
I Remember someone at Ubishit saying PC gamers are bitching, not to far fetched it seems.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 17:49 Post subject: |
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The issue is that they say one thing and do another. Unfortunately once you go down that road there is no end to it. You just keep doing the same again and again and in a larger scale. As someone previously said, they just took advantage of all the hype generated over the years from both witcher games and W3 and now they are cashing in. Seems everyone is a slave to money.
Tbh though, i probably would have done the same...who knows.
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