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russ80
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 09:41 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 09:45 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 09:47 Post subject: |
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russ80
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 10:02 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 10:48 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 21:45 Post subject: |
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Hi all, yes I took it bad after rage growed inside me for 3 days, but didnt say people to start harashing judges. Just to post some light support messages to let BIS know the result was strange (note the "keep it civil" part). Its of course matter of opinion if it was or not. For me it looked wrong but BIS can of course do as the wish at the end. Still we all have right to get mad and be stupid, we are all monkeys. I agree I looked to be on high horse, my nerd brain was out of control. I try to keep my feet usually on ground, but I tend to start talking of myself sometimes too much, like in this post.
I am back working on WLA as hobby, still interested also the later possibility of paid community content. Not gathering any donations, but would be dream to create games or in this case game content for living. Still just dreaming. If it comes true, everyboby can decide if to buy or not. For me the competition was very serious, was fully after money in it. What else could get from it? But also doing mission editing as hobby.
I hope you understood my english, not good in foreign languages. Also tend to do much writing errors in finnish, not a writer type. Without the time in arma community, would hardy understand what you write here. But welcome to learn some finnish.
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Apr 2015 15:50 Post subject: |
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I agree it's shitty for projects of equal quality being excluded from rewards when there's no real objective way to say which is better.
Which is why I'm against competitions like this by principle.
There's always an arbitrary cut-off point where someone is left feeling shit without reason.
The whole concept of having rewards and attributing arbitrary value to art is bullshit.
'Property is theft' and all that...
I think Phil Fish kind of broke the bank on indie entitlement, and that's amplified with modding.
I feel passionately about game and mod projects I create, but am aware that nobody else has that emotion associated with it.
I've had my arma mods copy pasted into CBA and realism mods without permission or credit and I know many modders would throw a shit fit for that.
But I don't care because I did it for the love of the game and seeing them in use means I did my part and I don't need external validation to feel proud of that.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 01:11 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 01:28 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | From what I can find, there's actually more than a few mod authors giving up after that comp 
I think it did them more harm than good tbh, modders are what make their games worth playing. |
ArmA will be fine though. They just announced big news with ACE3 
Really big news for ArmA communities.
| SaOk wrote: | Hi all, yes I took it bad after rage growed inside me for 3 days, but didnt say people to start harashing judges. Just to post some light support messages to let BIS know the result was strange (note the "keep it civil" part). Its of course matter of opinion if it was or not. For me it looked wrong but BIS can of course do as the wish at the end. Still we all have right to get mad and be stupid, we are all monkeys. I agree I looked to be on high horse, my nerd brain was out of control. I try to keep my feet usually on ground, but I tend to start talking of myself sometimes too much, like in this post.
I am back working on WLA as hobby, still interested also the later possibility of paid community content. Not gathering any donations, but would be dream to create games or in this case game content for living. Still just dreaming. If it comes true, everyboby can decide if to buy or not. For me the competition was very serious, was fully after money in it. What else could get from it? But also doing mission editing as hobby.
I hope you understood my english, not good in foreign languages. Also tend to do much writing errors in finnish, not a writer type. Without the time in arma community, would hardy understand what you write here. But welcome to learn some finnish.
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Thing is... you're modding/scripting for quite some time. One would expect you'd be above such things. But still, you're just human afterall. Shit happens.
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2015 07:14 Post subject: |
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2015 12:14 Post subject: |
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He could always try and work for bethesda as a modder, he'll get a whopping 10% for his time! 
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Jun 2015 15:09 Post subject: |
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If his work is that good he could probably just put it in a portfolio and use it to get a well paid dev job.
Can't do anything about his personality though.
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 12:36 Post subject: |
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Its not about that I didnt win, I am mad how sloppy they picked finalists and how bad the system was. You cant seriously say the mp finalist list looked anyway near normal. I saw in SWEC, BIS workers trying my WLA MP for 5 minutes (basically standing on respawn island) and that was it unless they tested it hidden. 1 year work for that. They didnt check even 1% of the mission. All MP finalist were for quick play and there was no indication in competiton rules for that. They should say what they seek, not waste people time to work on something that they didnt even give any change.
My consept is for long play, you need hours to get into. Do you seriously think the jury played it more that few moments? There was 30 missions to judge so no way they gave any proper look into them since even I couldnt have done it. They needed to share the points based on very quick impression. That gave massive penalty for complex projects like mine that isnt about story or cinema. I dont take that calm way that 1 year work get destroyed so BIS can have partners to get some short more publicity. There have been zero comments on the entires from jury, and you cant reach the company at all. I just find that silence very insulting and even I enjoy doing arma3 mission as hobby, no longer I want to support the company.
You need to be very naive if not seeing anything wrong how they dealt it or be extreme bis fanboy. You just keep some hate club here picking quotes out of context and throwing lies. I wanted to post why I leave the game since there is folks waiting mission updates. There is many understanding the reason, but some like you get very emotional. I think you are just angry for me that I dont keep updating the consept. You are acting much more baby than I. I havent got personal, you have.
Have been making arma missions from 2007 never gathering any donations. You cant say I am just there gathering bucks.
http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?147768-SP-MP-Dynamic-Whole-Map-ArmA3-Missions-by-SaOk/page381
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 12:30 Post subject: |
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You refuse to read, explained many times how they were sloppy and the basic math part. Its the game that have bad performance, you know it yourself. You just try to build own empty claims to back up your silly rage against me. The entry didnt even had voice-acting in it. And would be nice to hear what these hundrets of bugs are. Of course there is scripts, else nothing happens. If you stay outside of villages diag_fps is 90fps, how to beat that? I am using the latest performance improving script commands and not using heavy eventhandlers. In MP WLA run near the max script performance (45-50 while 50 is max). Even Dwarden have liked to host the mission. You have no clue how the game works. Next you probably list game bugs and say those are mine. Stop acting. You are using populism to gather simple minds to back you up. "Hey this guy is stupid because he is wrong. He does bad, he writes bad english and he does this and that and there isnt global warming because its cold day here. What do you think is he bad?" -"Yeah burn that unknown guy! We know him" "Yes, what an asshole"
The competition definitely have rule to block free speech.
You forgot to put how that BIS forum member replied. I am not alone with my thoughts, there have been many core modders supporting me outside the mission threads. There have been massive wave modders leaving already before the competition. They just know its useless to complain. I wanted to bring my thoughts public before leaving, but its too much for guys like you that I stop bringing toys to play. You are naive to believe the competition ran correct. I know the rules, BIS dont need to do anything. Do never complain if some game dont have mod support or its broken since the creators dont need to do anything. Never say anything of anyone since they dont need to do anything for you.
Edit: I know they will not compensate anything. Just saying I would only stay if getting compensation for wasted time. Its not a demand or threat.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 12:41 Post subject: |
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How would they compensate your time? You talk as if it was forced labour.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 12:51 Post subject: |
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Here's some good advice: Next time put up a donation system... it's not there for 'getting the bucks' but it will allow people whom feel like giving something for your time the chance to do so.
That way you get something out of it (except the joy and gratitude of people playing your projects) instead of relying on game companies. Maybe you've been shielded from most companies but... quick catch up: they are all massive cunts and you don't matter to them other than driving up their sales.
That being said the whole way you are going about this thing comes over to me as: silly and immature.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 12:51 Post subject: |
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You can't demand or threaten them anyway.
It's very basic. You wanted more recognition for the hard work you have done, but other, arguably better, projects won the competition and now you act like a bad loser. Sorry but if you enter a competition you should also accept that you might lose. Apparently your mod had enough flaws too, so I guess you do this either because you love arma and enjoy modding, or you leave it.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 12:54 Post subject: |
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Okay I'll be the one to ask the question: how did SaOk discover the forum and this thread  
Thought google crawlers were disabled for hump..
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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harry_theone
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I'm with Pumpy here.
Is this the guy himself? Well that shows a lot that you're getting wind up by a few random posts on a random board so much that you decided to reg.
Everyone here prolly entered a contest about something at some point, majority prolly didn't even win, so what? We don't rage for days because we found us to be more eligible. A jury is always biased, deal with it.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 13:24 Post subject: |
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Do you seriously think the big name jury tested 30 finalists properly? That they didnt give more value for image than long run content. And you dont see anything strange of what finalists they picked for MP. There were high supported entries like MCC4 (making possible to create endless high detailed stuff in real time) dropping and very low supported tiny PvP consept stuff making in finals. (you need to check those yourself since I dont want to point any specific entry since its not their fault)
I found here because the link was posted in my thread.
If you throw dice there is certain odds for each number. If you divide community randomly they vote the same. Community was exactly for who the entries were made. If jury would be seeking the best stuff for the game, they would end up near the same result unless they dont know what they are doing. With jury the idea is to drop possible buyed votes entries away and solve the order between very similar voted entries. My entry lost for entries even having 1.5-2.6x more votes. That shows the jury was poor. Of course the winners are now picked. I dont have any right to get anything, but I just dont swallow that without commenting since there was so much heavy work I did for year in massive stress.
Just wanted to post why I was leaving, but then again you continued this hate thread here. I might be bit confusing to get my point. I am not the most social type, people have sometimes hard time to follow me in reallife too. But still I believe I am not totally insane with my thoughts. I think I have a point, I hope you would see it. Dont just follow the flow.
Interinactive, mention 20 missionbugs. Its not that the all posts with bugs are the bugs that are still there.
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nice try
indeed.
