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Regarding the origins of that "transblabla" backer graveyard comment:
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 12:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 12:52 Post subject: |
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| The_Leaf wrote: | | Guess I'll wait for the patch... damn you Obsidian, you never learn do you? Even in this case when you had months and months of beta testing with thousands of backers... |
This is the most "final" Obsidian game to date IMO. I never thought I'd play an Obsidian game not full of glitches. I hope they'll quickly patch the serious bugs if it's possible, then we'll finally have a polished Obsidian game!
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 12:58 Post subject: |
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It wouldn't be a modern game without the bugs..
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 13:01 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | The_Leaf wrote: | | Guess I'll wait for the patch... damn you Obsidian, you never learn do you? Even in this case when you had months and months of beta testing with thousands of backers... |
This is the most "final" Obsidian game to date IMO. I never thought I'd play an Obsidian game not full of glitches. I hope they'll quickly patch the serious bugs if it's possible, then we'll finally have a polished Obsidian game! |
South Park: TSOT was their most "final"/polished game imo.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 13:05 Post subject: |
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| The_Leaf wrote: | | Guess I'll wait for the patch... damn you Obsidian, you never learn do you? Even in this case when you had months and months of beta testing with thousands of backers... |
Most of the bugs were introduced with the release version.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 13:05 Post subject: |
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I read they can fix the loading (black screen/not responding) bug by just editing some simple lines. I wonder why they don't just push that out as a hotfix prior to the bigger general update.
Ah well.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 13:09 Post subject: |
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| EternalBlueScreen wrote: | I read they can fix the loading (black screen/not responding) bug by just editing some simple lines. I wonder why they don't just push that out as a hotfix prior to the bigger general update.
Ah well. |
What if they pushed it out fast and it led to even more bugs? They should test a patch as much as possible before releasing it.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 13:36 Post subject: |
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Just to be clear what I mean by budget title:
Obsidian is a premium RPG maker in my eyes:
- KotOR II was, imho, a masterpiece. Best characters of the SW franchise, combat improved upon predecessor, the only SW title to date, where the world wasn't B/W. Kreia is to this day the best companion I have ever had in my party in any game.
- NWN2, very solid, improved in all aspects over the original, best implementation of 3.5 DnD.
- MotB this game was truly excellent. High level DnD content, challenging combat, and absolutely the best possible setting and personal story. I replayed it often.
- Alpha Protocol this was a good game, but hindered by bugs and silly design decisions.
- SP:TSOT They pulled off something I didn't think was possible. I enjoyed this a great deal. Simple, but very good game.
Understand this: after a lineup like this, it is a damn shame, that they had to crowdfund Pillars. 4m $ is not much money, especially not when it comes to games in 2012+. Considering the potential of Pillars, this was budget. Low budget. Whilst backgrounds are okay, assets are truly shit. Even with the NWN2 engine they could have done the 3D parts better, and that's 9 years ago.
Now imagine: if they had just double this money, full voice acting, HD models, which are more varied, animated faces, etc. It would have made this already GREAT game LEGENDARY.
After reaching level 7, my opinion is this: the combat mechanics, whilst needing more polish and fine-tuning, are great. The companions are great. The story is great. The lore is great.
It's a really, really good game, that could have been AA or AAA. But at the moment, it's budget.
I still preordered it, I'm still happy with the decision, and I will keep on buying Obsidian games. I will preorder PoE 2 the day it will be possible.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 13:55 Post subject: |
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| Radicalus wrote: |
Now imagine: if they had just double this money, full voice acting, HD models, which are more varied, animated faces, etc. It would have made this already GREAT game LEGENDARY.
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I agree with your post and get what you're saying but I have to disagree with this. Baldur's Gate 2 and Planescape didn't have any of these and
yet they are legendary. It's the quality of the writing, story and gameplay that matter in the end for RPG games.
1 and 2 are still amazing. |
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 13:56 Post subject: |
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https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/pillars-of-transphobia
| Quote: | | I would like this joke to stay |
SJW are gonna crucify him 
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 14:00 Post subject: |
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| Radicalus wrote: | Just to be clear what I mean by budget title:
Obsidian is a premium RPG maker in my eyes:
- KotOR II was, imho, a masterpiece. Best characters of the SW franchise, combat improved upon predecessor, the only SW title to date, where the world wasn't B/W. Kreia is to this day the best companion I have ever had in my party in any game.
- NWN2, very solid, improved in all aspects over the original, best implementation of 3.5 DnD.
- MotB this game was truly excellent. High level DnD content, challenging combat, and absolutely the best possible setting and personal story. I replayed it often.
- Alpha Protocol this was a good game, but hindered by bugs and silly design decisions.
- SP:TSOT They pulled off something I didn't think was possible. I enjoyed this a great deal. Simple, but very good game.
Understand this: after a lineup like this, it is a damn shame, that they had to crowdfund Pillars. 4m $ is not much money, especially not when it comes to games in 2012+. Considering the potential of Pillars, this was budget. Low budget. Whilst backgrounds are okay, assets are truly shit. Even with the NWN2 engine they could have done the 3D parts better, and that's 9 years ago.
Now imagine: if they had just double this money, full voice acting, HD models, which are more varied, animated faces, etc. It would have made this already GREAT game LEGENDARY.
After reaching level 7, my opinion is this: the combat mechanics, whilst needing more polish and fine-tuning, are great. The companions are great. The story is great. The lore is great.
It's a really, really good game, that could have been AA or AAA. But at the moment, it's budget.
I still preordered it, I'm still happy with the decision, and I will keep on buying Obsidian games. I will preorder PoE 2 the day it will be possible. |
Obsidian will always heavily rely on external funding alongside "rich" publishers. How many are working at Obsidian? 120?130 maximum? I don't think Urquhart is a billionaire.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 14:02 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | When did Larian release the rebalance patch 
| pillermann wrote: | | Eh, the GFX are absolutely gorgeous. Game looks better than most AAA titles, especially the likes of DAI. |
I'm loving the game, but  |
Not heavy rebalance, but January patch changed mob health, damage and resistances quite a lot.
Enemies tend to hit harder but have less health. |
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 14:05 Post subject: |
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@blackdochia
| Quote: | | We live under the dictatorship of the minorities. |
I'd say we have always lived under the dictatorship of the minorities.Different times, different minorities though.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 14:10 Post subject: |
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| blackdochia wrote: | | h0rnyfavn wrote: | https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/pillars-of-transphobia
| Quote: | | I would like this joke to stay |
SJW are gonna crucify him |
Also Obsidian closed those golden, fun threads. Censorship rules. We live under the dictatorship of the minorities. |
In fairness, it seemed as though the obsidian mods were closing all threads about social justice stuff. Both the pro and the negative ones.
I haven't looked at the obsidian forums today, so don't know if that's still the case. |
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 14:15 Post subject: |
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I don't mind the quality of assets - I'm looking at them from afar most of the time and they look quite good. More animations and details would be nice to make the world more believable (sitting and so on - I mentioned it already, no sense in repeating). The game doesn't really feel budget to me most of the time - it looks really cool, it plays smooth and it's immensly enjoyable, with very, very solid mechanics, world/lore and writing behind it. But yea, there are times when it does. It's the missing little details that make it a bit less then it could've been - and that jumps at me sometimes. I just wish Defiance Bay would be as vibrant and... well, alive as Athkatla, or even Baldur's Gate. And sadly, it's not, which is possibly the only thing that slightly detracts me from this gem.
Also, please, please, please don't advocate for full voiceover in a game like this. I know it would sound cool and all, but there's ALWAYS a price to pay for that, esspecially when devs are working with a low budget. I'd rather have a complex, well-written game then a smaller and simpler, fully voice-acted one. Partial voice-acting was fine for Baldur's Gate and it's fine for PoE, as far as I'm concerned.
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AnarchoS
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I have a problem, my companion wolf keeps falling through the floor, is there any way to fix this? I cant leave the location because of it.
Do I have to start a new game?
A.F.A.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 14:19 Post subject: |
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And yet the nonsensical thread requesting Obsidian adding romances in the game is going strong. It's on part 5 now, each thread being closed upon reaching 30 pages, just like on Bethesda forums.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 14:20 Post subject: |
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| blackdochia wrote: | | And yet the nonsensical thread requesting Obsidian adding romances in the game is going strong. It's on part 5 now, each thread being closed upon reaching 30 pages, just like on Bethesda forums. |
Meh, let them have that. It's a containment thread. |
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 14:22 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | The_Leaf wrote: | | Guess I'll wait for the patch... damn you Obsidian, you never learn do you? Even in this case when you had months and months of beta testing with thousands of backers... |
This is the most "final" Obsidian game to date IMO. I never thought I'd play an Obsidian game not full of glitches. I hope they'll quickly patch the serious bugs if it's possible, then we'll finally have a polished Obsidian game! |
Well, I finished KotOR2 and South Park: TSoT on vanilla and didn't have any issues. And those didn't even have a public (or semi-public) beta testing.
I don't know, maybe I should be more lenient because they're more "indie" than other studios, but if Ubisoft or CDPR had released a game with such game-breaking bugs this thread would be a flood of shouting, insults and mockery.
Also, as a programmer some of these amuse and baffle me at the same time. The double clickling one is absurd, it means they're triggering two different functions to do the same thing (recalculate the stats after changing equipment) it's silly.
Well, let's hope the patch can fix these retroactively and that it comes out soon (they set "within the week of the 30th march", so it should be sometime within the next few days.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 14:28 Post subject: |
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The patch can't come soon enough at this point. Fucking up an otherwise enjoyable release.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 14:34 Post subject: |
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I just hope the patch is well tested.
A lot of the issues people are suffering at the moment were not in the beta and were probably introduced during the release rush. Developers make silly mistakes when rushed (speaking from experience here), so I'd be happier for it to take a bit longer if it fixes lots of things and doesn't break anything else.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 14:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 14:40 Post subject: |
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| Yuri wrote: | | Radicalus wrote: |
Now imagine: if they had just double this money, full voice acting, HD models, which are more varied, animated faces, etc. It would have made this already GREAT game LEGENDARY.
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I agree with your post and get what you're saying but I have to disagree with this. Baldur's Gate 2 and Planescape didn't have any of these and
yet they are legendary. It's the quality of the writing, story and gameplay that matter in the end for RPG games. |
That's how the younger generation always thinks if something has no modern AAA 3d gfx, full, voice acting etc it's cheap and it automatically lowers their enjoyment of it they are simply trained by today's gaming market to think that way.
I mean what would animated faces (or HD models whatever that means...) even do in a game like that you can hardly see them anyway when zoomed out
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