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| Lathieza wrote: | | Since i saw Gothic 4 i have no reason to look forward to this. |
"Gothic 4" Was not made by PB, the publisher got another dev to make it, the same publisher that, reportedly, caused Gothic 3 to be such an unfinished mess.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 08:34 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 08:46 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 10:56 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | Didn't they already mention somewhere that making a Gothic in the same vein of 1 or 2 would be financially impossible these days? |
???
It was actually said a LONG time ago that new Gothic is coming:
http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1415769-Nordic-Games-k%C3%BCndigt-Gothic-5-an
There are no actual news here, just status updates now.
| Quote: | | I wouldn't hold my breath. |
Me neither.
There is no one left from old good PB team. May be 1-2 people tops. The rest are scattered. At best new team will produce a masterpiece worthy of title Arcania II.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 11:04 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 11:06 Post subject: |
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im wondering are they not bold enough to do a ks? a hd gothic 1 then 2 would probably get 1-2 millions or more, would be funded without problems; it wouldnt cost so much to do and it would sell pretty good
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 11:21 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: |
I'm not sure what that has to do with what I said
I realise it is coming, I was the first reply to the thread. But it was definitely on this board where I read a quote that said it wouldn't be a viable option to make it like the older games due to the scope + expectations modern gamers have. I can't remember if it was a dev quote or not but it made sense at the time. |
I remember that quote. I don't think they were worried about finances, they didn't really want to make a new Gothic game because the expectations were too high (i.e. chances of disappointment are too high). SOmething like that.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 13:53 Post subject: |
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| lolozaur wrote: | | im wondering are they not bold enough to do a ks? a hd gothic 1 then 2 would probably get 1-2 millions or more, would be funded without problems; it wouldnt cost so much to do and it would sell pretty good |
Hmm... I'd be down for that I think
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 14:18 Post subject: |
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Why? Give me one reason?
I understand why I pledged for Divinity OS - same devs who made Divintiy games promised new games. I was disappointed of the results and the way they cave in to SJW fgts, but I had clear reasons why did I do it.
Why would you pledge to KS that promises new Gothic from a dev team that just happened to own PB brand name now?
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 14:34 Post subject: |
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wat 
Two reasons, actually. "HD" Gothic 1 and 2. That was what I understand from lolo's last post?
And fuck no I wouldn't throw a penny in a possible PB's kickstarter for gothic 5 or whatever 
"Piranha Bytes" is up there with "Infinity Ward" and "Starbreeze" after all.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 14:51 Post subject: |
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Oh, the HD one?
Yeah, that would be nifty.
This reminds me to check on that DX11 mod for G2.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 15:02 Post subject: |
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both Gothic 4 and Risen 3 was a big huddle of shit so i'll pass gothic 5.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 15:31 Post subject: |
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Re-release of Gothic 1-2 would still blow some minds methinks. Game was and still is FANTASTIC. They can even add a casual mode for battles for cattle, for all I care.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 15:34 Post subject: |
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| lolozaur wrote: | | im wondering are they not bold enough to do a ks? a hd gothic 1 then 2 would probably get 1-2 millions or more, would be funded without problems; it wouldnt cost so much to do and it would sell pretty good |
I suppose if they made a game like Gothic I&II or even Risen I, they'd get a shitload of money on KS. But they are just too stupid to realise what every fucking Gothic fan in the world wants them to do. Instead they like to invent new ways of crapping all over their own work every damn time. These guys just dont want to make a good game. As stupid as it sounds, thats what I'm convinced of.
| Kein wrote: | | They can even add a casual mode for battles for cattle, for all I care. |
No.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 18:16 Post subject: |
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If it will be optional mode like with RE0 remake (optional controls) - who cares? You still can play original. Cattle can play "one button kill" mode.
If that's the price of HD remake - I'm willing to pay it.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 18:19 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | | lolozaur wrote: | | im wondering are they not bold enough to do a ks? a hd gothic 1 then 2 would probably get 1-2 millions or more, would be funded without problems; it wouldnt cost so much to do and it would sell pretty good |
I suppose if they made a game like Gothic I&II or even Risen I, they'd get a shitload of money on KS. But they are just too stupid to realise what every fucking Gothic fan in the world wants them to do. Instead they like to invent new ways of crapping all over their own work every damn time. These guys just dont want to make a good game. As stupid as it sounds, thats what I'm convinced of.
| Kein wrote: | | They can even add a casual mode for battles for cattle, for all I care. |
No. |
I was convinced of that after Risen was released. I accepted G3 as a fluke, but they plowed ahead with the same style, and it's since only gotten worse.
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I admit, I kind of liked the first Risen. Combat wasnt too bad as were the first couple of chapters. At least it was more polished than Gothic 3 was, until the final chapters, that is.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 18:40 Post subject: |
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First Risen 1 was okay, but they clearly rushed it because were out of funds. Could be better.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 19:32 Post subject: |
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Why does everyone hate on Risen 3 so much? it's the closest I've felt to playing another Gothic game. The only problem I had with it was how crazy overpowered you got around the middle of the game, but to be fair that is a thing both Gothics were guilty of if you went melee.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 19:48 Post subject: |
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| Revan6999 wrote: | | Why does everyone hate on Risen 3 so much? it's the closest I've felt to playing another Gothic game. The only problem I had with it was how crazy overpowered you got around the middle of the game, but to be fair that is a thing both Gothics were guilty of if you went melee. |
Is it really good? Risen 2 was such a clusterfuck, I didn't even remember there was 3. How buggy is it? |
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 19:57 Post subject: |
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Voice acting is shit, and combat is shit. Stopped playing after 30 minutes. Combating a crab for 2 minutes cause it keeps jumping back every time you try to hit it is just way to stupid.
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Voice acting is shit, and combat is shit. Stopped playing after 30 minutes. Combating a crab for 2 minutes cause it keeps jumping back every time you try to hit it is just way to stupid. |
Let me guess the usual excuse by fanboys, "your character is weak, so what did you expect, this is arr pee gee" |
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 20:08 Post subject: |
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I don't remember having any problems with the crabs. Maybe you didn't try not mashing the attack button mindlessly?
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 20:13 Post subject: |
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I haven't played it since release, so how i attacked is something i don't remember. I do remember enemies jumping back, and they have done this at least since Risen 1.
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I didnt like the combat in Risen 3 because it was just not what I like as combat. Once you get used to it though it is better then Risen 2 imo. I also thought the islands were quite well made and there was a fair bit of exploration. The game isnt that bad per se. Its just kind of soulless compared to their good games.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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