[PS4] Just got PS4
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Jan 2015 16:05    Post subject: [PS4] Just got PS4
Need cheap psn games
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Jan 2015 17:58    Post subject:
few hours too late, gamestop sold the dying light season pass for 25 usd this morning, nothing special but the key given out was actual the main game + season pass Razz

atm no good promotion for digital games, the 10% discount was only valid till yesterday i think
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Jan 2015 18:07    Post subject:
AC unity available at cheapest?

Actually got the GTA5 Bundle
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Jan 2015 18:40    Post subject:
wouldnt recommend the ps4 version of unity, looks like shit and runs like shit. saw it at a friends house.


you should be able to get the last of us remastered cheap now, must play if you havent played it on ps3. you got ps+ already? the infamous dlc is free till february (no need for the basegame) and the maingame should be awesome too (not my kind of game though). sadly no other titles which are worth buying (killzone was utter shit)
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Jan 2015 18:42    Post subject:
I have already played last of us on ps3 really wanted unity people say its mine now with patches
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JackQ
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Jan 2015 19:15    Post subject:
Congratulations still having only DS4,which PS4 games you have so far aside GTA5?


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bloodian




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Jan 2015 20:53    Post subject:
I'm buying games really cheap on polish auction house (allegro). I don't know exactly how it works but I buy them 50% cheaper (i just paid ~25$ for dying light), they give me an account I need to add to my PS4, set it as main, and play on my account.

Pros:

- 50% cheaper (they're selling GTAV for 20$)

Cons:

- If your HDD gets damaged you lose the games
- you have a lot of accounts on your ps4
- you can get ripped off (you can reset the main PS4 on the PSN webpage every 6 months)

BTW does anybody know how do they profit from that ? I'm guessing they're selling the main account for 50% and borrowing/selling the sub account (no main).

I don't give a shit really, because when I finish with a game I mostly don't ever go back. And wasn't ripped off yet.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 03:06    Post subject:
Do they sell digital codes? Just have gta 5 since I bought last night only looking to get ps plus subscription
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 08:14    Post subject:
bloodian wrote:
I'm buying games really cheap on polish auction house (allegro). I don't know exactly how it works but I buy them 50% cheaper (i just paid ~25$ for dying light), they give me an account I need to add to my PS4, set it as main, and play on my account.

Pros:

- 50% cheaper (they're selling GTAV for 20$)

Cons:

- If your HDD gets damaged you lose the games
- you have a lot of accounts on your ps4
- you can get ripped off (you can reset the main PS4 on the PSN webpage every 6 months)

BTW does anybody know how do they profit from that ? I'm guessing they're selling the main account for 50% and borrowing/selling the sub account (no main).

I don't give a shit really, because when I finish with a game I mostly don't ever go back. And wasn't ripped off yet.

so you are paying 25$ for illegal games, not only that you risk of getting a ban hammer, congrats Laughing
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 08:36    Post subject:
yea fuck that really, i will risk a ban for completely free pirated games on a modded console, but no way will i pay for it, 20 dollars are 20 dollars too much for this.
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bloodian




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 09:42    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
bloodian wrote:
I'm buying games really cheap on polish auction house (allegro). I don't know exactly how it works but I buy them 50% cheaper (i just paid ~25$ for dying light), they give me an account I need to add to my PS4, set it as main, and play on my account.

Pros:

- 50% cheaper (they're selling GTAV for 20$)

Cons:

- If your HDD gets damaged you lose the games
- you have a lot of accounts on your ps4
- you can get ripped off (you can reset the main PS4 on the PSN webpage every 6 months)

BTW does anybody know how do they profit from that ? I'm guessing they're selling the main account for 50% and borrowing/selling the sub account (no main).

I don't give a shit really, because when I finish with a game I mostly don't ever go back. And wasn't ripped off yet.

so you are paying 25$ for illegal games, not only that you risk of getting a ban hammer, congrats Laughing


where does it say it's illegal ? And name one case when somebody got banned for account sharing.

edit:
thanks for the congrats, I've already saved like 100$. I don't believe I'll get a ban - I've just googled and there are single cases on PS3 that users got banned for sharing but they banned the account that was SHARED and they usually did something stupid that got them reported.


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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 09:50    Post subject:
account sharing for money, especially on such a massive scale, is most definitely illegal. i'm too lazy to find quote in TOS but i'm 100% it's there. don't know if there were bans for this on PSN yet, but there were on xbox live when 360 account sharing was out of control.
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bloodian




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 09:54    Post subject:
Come to think of it I was stupid to ask you if it's illegal. Of course it's illegal ! Smile

Of course you can't get a game 50% cheaper without any risks.
I took the risk and IMO it's very, very small, from what I've read. There are very few cases of banned PS4s in general (as of now).

Besides even if something gets banned, it's the account with 20$ game on it, not my main account.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 12:43    Post subject:
Is game sharing allowed on PS4 ? I'm looking to play AC Unity but its all expensive everywhere i was hoping to find it cheap since it had a bad launch but still prices are not dropped.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 13:01    Post subject:
gamesharing works on ps4 yes, but i would do it only with friends i personally know and trust cause they can do massive shit with your account
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bloodian




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 14:03    Post subject:
NFOAC wrote:
Is game sharing allowed on PS4 ? I'm looking to play AC Unity but its all expensive everywhere i was hoping to find it cheap since it had a bad launch but still prices are not dropped.


as discussed before. There hasn't been any cases of bans on PS4 yet for this, but it may happen. I've found a few cases on PS3, but that was mostly because they were reported or done some stupid shit.

People on polish Allegro are selling these accounts like crazy, and people are buying it. Including me.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 14:27    Post subject:
@bloodian
Can we get the games from digitally from them i.e online code ?

And can 2 people play same game simultaneously ?
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bloodian




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 15:29    Post subject:
no. They don't sell codes, because they wouldn't profit from that. You can buy codes, but that beats the purpose, because they're the same price as at PSN.

PS4 account sharing is pretty complicated Smile

You can set ONE console as your main. On a console you have set as main you can play the game on ANY account.

Apart from playing on main, you can play on another console at the same time BUT you have to be connected to the internet for authentication AND you are limited to the account the game is on.

So yes, two people can play from the same account.

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What I did a couple of times was rent an account just to play the game. I've beat Assasins Creed: Black Fag by buying an account for 3 weeks for 10 polish zl. I don't give a shit about trophies so that's perfect.

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HOW THIS WORKS
(from reddit)

Quote:
People used to share accounts for PS3 games, now they're doing the same for PS4 games, to cut back expenses.
It's only safe to do it amongst friends, though. Don't trust e-bay sellers.
Someone creates a new account, purchases one game on it and then the game can be shared to up to three people, and they split the cost of it accordingly.
Here's how it works:

Ghost Player (Pays 30%)
The ghost player receives the account and downloads the game.
Whoever is mediating the transaction then goes to the sony website and revokes his console permission to use the account.
Therefore, the ghost can never re-download the game if something happens, but the ghost can play with any PSN ID.

Secondary Player (Pays 20%)
The secondary player logs in with the account, sets his console as secondary, then downloads the game to the console. He will always be able to re-download the game, but he will never be able to play the game with his original PSN ID. He will only be able to play it using the new account created specifically to buy the game. So this isn't good if you're a completionist and really enjoys hunting trophies, because they won't go to your PSN ID.


Primary Player (Pays 50%)
Paying more out of the three guarantees the primary player the right to set his console as primary. This means that he gets to re-download the game anytime he wants and play with any PSN ID.
Hope I've been able to clarify what that was.

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What I don't get.. Can't there be infinite number of "ghost accounts" ? It looks like it. But the limitation is that you can revoke primary console remotely every once 6 months. So you can duplicate your game on consoles, every 6 months.

So they're pretty much using a "glitch" in PSN, that's how they profit.

That's even more complicated than I thought.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 18:07    Post subject:
Thanks so at same time 2 players can't play the shared game
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bloodian




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 18:49    Post subject:
correct.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 19:15    Post subject:
So is there no place to get cheap games wanted to play second son and unity badly
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bringiton




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 20:56    Post subject:
Buy "used" PSN credit. I am from Germany and you can easily get 50 % off. Should be able in other countries, but obviously I haven't tried it.

This is also a much safer way to get cheap games instead of buying those shady accounts. No risk of banning and all games in one account.


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greenblood




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 22:04    Post subject:
Used psn credit? What exactly do you mean by that? I'm also from germany, where can I get it 50% off?
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bringiton




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jan 2015 22:22    Post subject:
You can buy credit from other people. This works over mobile payment. Basically other people give you a mobile number, which is then charged for the amount.
The way the sellers (usually) make money is that they either do not fully have to pay the mobile bill or because they get new prepaid cards with 10 € credit for only 3 €, the rest is their margin.


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bassel316




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Jan 2015 12:28    Post subject:
the problem of buying accounts for gamesharing :
1-the seller sells the accounts to several users in different regions
2- most of the games on these accounts bought by stolen credit cards... even if the seller
gave you all the information of the account and the email that is used to create the psn account with
so either the account will be blocked or you will possibly get a console ban
so i think 20$ doesn't worth the risk
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Jan 2015 12:40    Post subject:
completely agree. there are better and legal ways to get cheap games for PS4. US/Canadian accounts, buying used physical copies of games, all kinds of special deals on PSN. or if you wait 6 months most games reach <30$ price point anyway

paying 20$ to some thieving scumbags who got these accounts with shady methods just isn't worth it.
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NFOAC




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bloodian




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jan 2015 09:57    Post subject:
NFOAC wrote:
Are these safe?
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=Assassin%27s+Creed+unity+ps4&_sop=15&_from=R40&_osacat=139973&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XAssassin%27s+Creed+unity+ps4+digital&_nkw=Assassin%27s+Creed+unity+ps4+digital&_sacat=139973


These are the "share accounts" explained earlier.

Quote:
2- most of the games on these accounts bought by stolen credit cards... even if the seller
gave you all the information of the account and the email that is used to create the psn account with
so either the account will be blocked or you will possibly get a console ban


I don't believe that's the case on polish allegro (like ebay) in most cases. You just have to buy from users with good reputation.

Besides, I can't find any cases on google of PS4 bans for account sharing.
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