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 Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 10:23 Post subject: ***** |
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 12:26 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 12:34 Post subject: |
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The third Medic has AoE heals and a skill which boosts party Movement Speed for a few seconds.
Most prefer her over Val, because her healing output is higher if aimed at 2 or more people simultaneously. Plus she can heal herself (in addition to the Healing bursts all medics have)
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 14:09 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 14:57 Post subject: |
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Yeah, but you need to know how to play him. Super-skilled Lazarus player can make HUGE difference.
I know I'm shit at playing him because I suck evading monster as a medic.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 14:59 Post subject: |
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Usually the monster fucks the lying assholes and therefore Lazarus is 100% useless. Val can slow the monster down during the match, during a chase and also mark it with this fucking nice weapon. I prefer Val high ten but I am a fucking manly trapper.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 15:14 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 16:08 Post subject: |
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Easy solution to Lazarus: As Monster make sure to eat the corpse of the killed Hunter. Sure you will stop the animation each time you are hit (similar to attacking the power relay), but you can eat the corpse bit by bit, while using long range skills to force the assault to stop shooting you and retreat.
When youve successfully eaten the corpse, the team of Lazarus + 2 has no chance anymore. Easiest with the Feeding perk (+75% faster at Level 3).
Alternatively you can also kill Lazarus first, provided he is a noob and does not use his Cloak ability sufficiently. (Remember that Goliath´s Flame Breath ability reveals cloaked hunters, also you can still see the jetpacks burn-effect and you can still see footprints when smelling)
Easiest done by Kraken (maybe Wraith as well, but he will get a nerf so no point talking about him during this stage), harder as a Goliath.
Against a skilled Kraken Caira is much better, while Lazarus is best picked against a Goliath. Not that you know which monster will be picked, but still.
Val is best in combination with Abe (3rd trapper) for the ultra annoying double Slow effect. Pretty much forces Kraken to abort his flying.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 16:55 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 17:57 Post subject: |
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konkol84
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 18:04 Post subject: |
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| peter90 wrote: | Easy solution to Lazarus: As Monster make sure to eat the corpse of the killed Hunter. Sure you will stop the animation each time you are hit (similar to attacking the power relay), but you can eat the corpse bit by bit, while using long range skills to force the assault to stop shooting you and retreat.
When youve successfully eaten the corpse, the team of Lazarus + 2 has no chance anymore. Easiest with the Feeding perk (+75% faster at Level 3).
Alternatively you can also kill Lazarus first, provided he is a noob and does not use his Cloak ability sufficiently. (Remember that Goliath´s Flame Breath ability reveals cloaked hunters, also you can still see the jetpacks burn-effect and you can still see footprints when smelling)
Easiest done by Kraken (maybe Wraith as well, but he will get a nerf so no point talking about him during this stage), harder as a Goliath.
Against a skilled Kraken Caira is much better, while Lazarus is best picked against a Goliath. Not that you know which monster will be picked, but still.
Val is best in combination with Abe (3rd trapper) for the ultra annoying double Slow effect. Pretty much forces Kraken to abort his flying. |
Not as easy as you think. With Hank as support and Griffin/Maggie as trapper, your little stop to eat hunter's body may result in INCOMING AIRSTRIKE and sometimes - 50% HP as a result (Griffin especially rules). Cabot works well too with his damage amplifier (Lazarus + Cabot = massacre to monster's HP, any stop can be lethal).
If monster eats support, then all 3 hunters can close by with Lazarus shooting weakspots marks as a madman and do pretty good damage through armor. In case with Wraith it could be fatal.
In the end it will be decided by the skill of Monster player. If he decide to continue to fight with low HP it may end up badly. If he will run it ill give the chance for beaten player to drop by.
There is a lot of tactic in the game thanks to async competitive. Problem is in the way it sometimes represented.
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Jan 2015 16:17 Post subject: |
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Well if it was easy it would be boring 
I can only talk from my experience Ive played around 60 if not more rounds as Kraken over Big Alpha/Beta. Never lost in Big Alpha (not hard since he was too op), only lost 3 times in the Beta against a Team of Val + Hank + Abe. It was a party of 4 and they knew exactly how to play. Was really intense, even when I won I was struggling hard.
Never ever lost to a Lazarus as Kraken
What I do is I keep shooting at the corpse (I always fly as Kraken, never melee, always far above). I keep my Vortex ability only for Griffin/Assault. As soon as I am trapped he gets a Vortex to his face, keep shooting the corpse.
Also after 45 seconds the corpse decays anyways so you don´t have to eat it neccessarily.
I am not saying that this works all the time, it is just a theory. But for me it always did. You also have to take into account that after a few seconds Lazarus WILL panic.
My point is not that Lazarus is useless against Kraken, I am just trying to say that he is not so OP as some people might think. When it comes to balance so far the game is quite ok (Goliath 45% winrate, Kraken 54%, lets not talk about Wraith hes getting nerfed)
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2015 21:35 Post subject: |
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Pey
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| Posted: Sat, 31st Jan 2015 13:43 Post subject: |
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it's CryEngine 3, of course it does :P
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Evolve Hunting Season Pass  
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Pey
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Feb 2015 18:53 Post subject: |
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So what exactly does people see in this game? Looks extremely short lived to me and on top of that built with cancerous DLC overload in mind
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Fucking assholes. Well I hope the additional hunters are atleast shit?
