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 Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 11:58 Post subject: Father Makes Son Play Through Video Game History |
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I found that article and it's quite interesting especially for those who have kids. Sorry if this is irrelevant to the pc games arena but I think it's a good read and fellow members here will at least enjoy the nostalgia behind this.
https://medium.com/message/playing-with-my-son-e5226ff0a7c3
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 12:09 Post subject: |
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I fail to see the point to be honest.
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 12:13 Post subject: |
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This guy stole my idea. I had planned to do this EXACT same thing if I ever had a kid, for the same reasons. I grew up through the different eras of gaming and was worried my kid would have no appreciation for older games and aesthetics. I guess its nice to know it actually works. The trick is isolating them from exposure to current gen games and systems outside the house (school, friends, TV, etc).
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 12:14 Post subject: |
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| xxax wrote: | | I fail to see the point to be honest. |
Would you fail to see the point of father, whose passion is for example fishing, to bring his son along and show him what's it's all about? I see it as activity like any other, definitely good for the father to try to bond with his son. Instead of all passive "I'll buy whatever you want, just leave me alone and go play or something, I don't have time for you" like many fathers are (like mine was/is) 
| dataschmuck wrote: | | The trick is isolating them from exposure to current gen games and systems outside the house (school, friends, TV, etc). |
I think it's important to start early on, when kid's like 4 years old or something, well before other kids of his age will show him modern games.
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 12:29 Post subject: |
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| xxax wrote: | | I fail to see the point to be honest. |
I grew up in the 80's, and love the movies, games, culture of the 80's. But try to get me to watch a classic from the 60's or earlier, or anything in black and white, and I just have no interest in watching it. I KNOW there are some really great movies and TV series from back then, but I grew up with newer stuff and older stuff just seems hard to watch , and I cant really appreciate it. And I feel bad because I feel like I'm missing out on important film culture. I've never seen Citizen Cane. If my parents had started me early as a kid watching the older stuff I wouldn't have as hard a time appreciating it.
So, if I have a kid, not only will we play through the different eras of gaming, we'll also need to do the same with movies and TV. Maybe I'll even start with movies/shows before my time so he/she can have what I never had, it might be easier to watch them with someone else who has never had exposure to current media.
Just realized I'm gonna raise a fat couch potato of a kid. Shit.
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 12:34 Post subject: |
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Awsome!
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 12:36 Post subject: |
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I think this could be applied to almost any tech too - imagine having to work through vinyl, tapes, cd's and only then MP3's. Betamax, VHS, DVD and Bluray...
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 13:01 Post subject: |
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now give him the latest call of duty game and see what happens. will he shun it? will he play it and go 'meh... was ok'.. or will it completely and utterly destroy all that you have built? SCIENCE DEMANDS ANSWERS!!
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 13:04 Post subject: |
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| dataschmuck wrote: | | xxax wrote: | | I fail to see the point to be honest. |
I grew up in the 80's, and love the movies, games, culture of the 80's. But try to get me to watch a classic from the 60's or earlier, or anything in black and white, and I just have no interest in watching it. I KNOW there are some really great movies and TV series from back then, but I grew up with newer stuff and older stuff just seems hard to watch , and I cant really appreciate it. And I feel bad because I feel like I'm missing out on important film culture. I've never seen Citizen Cane. If my parents had started me early as a kid watching the older stuff I wouldn't have as hard a time appreciating it.
So, if I have a kid, not only will we play through the different eras of gaming, we'll also need to do the same with movies and TV. Maybe I'll even start with movies/shows before my time so he/she can have what I never had, it might be easier to watch them with someone else who has never had exposure to current media.
Just realized I'm gonna raise a fat couch potato of a kid. Shit. |
Yes you would. I've watched countless of classics with my family and i usually left half way through, because i didn't like them. Its only when i got older and got into a period of watching old classics that i "got" them, but to be honest it didn't have much to do with watching them with my family. I got older, more mature so the hollywood crap started getting generic so me and a friend had a phase where we'd dig up older movies or foreign movies (meaning non-english) that we're considered masterpieces and we'd watch them.
Games are easier because older games like Pac-Man are simple (albeit hard) affairs, that don't require much abstract thought. Movies are similar to books in that regard and i still think our schools here cram poetry and classic literature down kids throats way too fast and the only thing it does, is make most kids hate reading and poetry. I mean i had to read Brothers Karamazov when i was 13/14, i thought it was boring, depressing and stupid. I've read it last year or so again and i think its one of the most amazing novels ever written. You have to be more mature, life has to screw you over a bit and you need to find it for yourself.
Anyway i think its pointless because i don't see the point? The father is sharing some of his memories of old games with him so he will appreciate what exactly? I mean there isn't much life lessons to be learned from playing Pac-Man. Someone mentioned fishing, while i don't like it, at least your in fresh air and you can fucking talk. I fail to see how sitting in front of a screen, playing a game could be considered quality bonding (and this coming from a guy who never bonded with his dad). Not to mention writing about all this crap and tweeting it just rubs me the wrong way. I fail to see the difference if the kid played modern games compared to the old ones.
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 13:36 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | Honey I shrunk the kids, The Iron Giant, Milo and Otis, old TMNT, Pinocchio - a few movies my kids love. I have no trouble getting them to watch old stuff, so long as they can follow along. |
Well i was more thinking in line of Maltese Falcon, Casablanca, Its a Wonderful Life etc. 
| Interinactive wrote: | I can't get them into old games though. Once they've seen the latest and greatest it's pretty hard convincing them that Mario is better.
I would have loved to have tried this experiment, but with the amount of games I play, it would have been way too hard to hide the fact that 8bit games aren't exactly modern or as exciting to kids as something like one of the modern Batman games. |
But thats what i don't get with this "experiment". I seriously doubt you play NES Mario? Why would the kids want to then? I played a ton of games, but i almost never play games i really liked when i was a kid. I played Wolf 3d and Duke nukem all the fucking time, but now i'd rather play the new Wolf. Those times were then and i can't get them back, don't even know why i would want to.
I mean the guy played Pac-Man when it came out, so why didn't he start his kid off with a pinball machine? Or Pong, since thats how it started?
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 13:46 Post subject: |
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| xxax wrote: | | Interinactive wrote: | | Honey I shrunk the kids, The Iron Giant, Milo and Otis, old TMNT, Pinocchio - a few movies my kids love. I have no trouble getting them to watch old stuff, so long as they can follow along. |
Well i was more thinking in line of Maltese Falcon, Casablanca, Its a Wonderful Life etc.
| Interinactive wrote: | I can't get them into old games though. Once they've seen the latest and greatest it's pretty hard convincing them that Mario is better.
I would have loved to have tried this experiment, but with the amount of games I play, it would have been way too hard to hide the fact that 8bit games aren't exactly modern or as exciting to kids as something like one of the modern Batman games. |
But thats what i don't get with this "experiment". I seriously doubt you play NES Mario? Why would the kids want to then? I played a ton of games, but i almost never play games i really liked when i was a kid. I played Wolf 3d and Duke nukem all the fucking time, but now i'd rather play the new Wolf. Those times were then and i can't get them back, don't even know why i would want to.
I mean the guy played Pac-Man when it came out, so why didn't he start his kid off with a pinball machine? Or Pong, since thats how it started? |
Huh? It's not about you. It's about your kid.
Also, do you expect a 4 year old to play a Williams pinball table? Yes it's easy for the kid to just push the triggers in Pinball Arcade but classic pinball tables are complicated. My nearly 5 year old son has some toy pinball games but that's it.
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 13:54 Post subject: |
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| fearwhatnow wrote: | | xxax wrote: | | Interinactive wrote: | | Honey I shrunk the kids, The Iron Giant, Milo and Otis, old TMNT, Pinocchio - a few movies my kids love. I have no trouble getting them to watch old stuff, so long as they can follow along. |
Well i was more thinking in line of Maltese Falcon, Casablanca, Its a Wonderful Life etc.
| Interinactive wrote: | I can't get them into old games though. Once they've seen the latest and greatest it's pretty hard convincing them that Mario is better.
I would have loved to have tried this experiment, but with the amount of games I play, it would have been way too hard to hide the fact that 8bit games aren't exactly modern or as exciting to kids as something like one of the modern Batman games. |
But thats what i don't get with this "experiment". I seriously doubt you play NES Mario? Why would the kids want to then? I played a ton of games, but i almost never play games i really liked when i was a kid. I played Wolf 3d and Duke nukem all the fucking time, but now i'd rather play the new Wolf. Those times were then and i can't get them back, don't even know why i would want to.
I mean the guy played Pac-Man when it came out, so why didn't he start his kid off with a pinball machine? Or Pong, since thats how it started? |
Huh? It's not about you. It's about your kid.
Also, do you expect a 4 year old to play a Williams pinball table? Yes it's easy for the kid to just push the triggers in Pinball Arcade but classic pinball tables are complicated. My nearly 5 year old son has some toy pinball games but that's it. |
Yeah its about the kid, but when the father was the kid all these games were new. So why would you want your kid to play through them when the games have changed so much and let's be honest got a lot better (from the 80's)? Do you play games of your youth regularly? Doubt it.
And i wasn't serious about the pinball machine.
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 14:09 Post subject: |
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| xxax wrote: | | fearwhatnow wrote: | | xxax wrote: |
Well i was more thinking in line of Maltese Falcon, Casablanca, Its a Wonderful Life etc.
But thats what i don't get with this "experiment". I seriously doubt you play NES Mario? Why would the kids want to then? I played a ton of games, but i almost never play games i really liked when i was a kid. I played Wolf 3d and Duke nukem all the fucking time, but now i'd rather play the new Wolf. Those times were then and i can't get them back, don't even know why i would want to.
I mean the guy played Pac-Man when it came out, so why didn't he start his kid off with a pinball machine? Or Pong, since thats how it started? |
Huh? It's not about you. It's about your kid.
Also, do you expect a 4 year old to play a Williams pinball table? Yes it's easy for the kid to just push the triggers in Pinball Arcade but classic pinball tables are complicated. My nearly 5 year old son has some toy pinball games but that's it. |
Yeah its about the kid, but when the father was the kid all these games were new. So why would you want your kid to play through them when the games have changed so much and let's be honest got a lot better (from the 80's)? Do you play games of your youth regularly? Doubt it.
And i wasn't serious about the pinball machine. |
Ofc I don't play them now (I'm nearly 38 ) but I'm not so selfish. My first son plays videogames from 3+ and he tried several classic arcade games through MAME. Now he's more into games like Sonic Racing All-Stars but it's really good to get him into older games. This article proves it in a way.
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2014 15:05 Post subject: |
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I still play these games on regular basis. I always did. Having a kid or not, won't change that. Its a bonus for the kid that it would have this opportunity. I don't care if it would like it or not, those games are kick ass!
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2014 01:13 Post subject: |
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if i was the kid and my dad made me play battletoads 2 one moment, and mario 64 a bit later, i d kick him in the balls.
"wtf dad, you sick motherfucker..."
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