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 Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 08:18 Post subject: New build, no video signal :( |
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Asus Z97 AR
i7 4790k
Crucial Ballistix Tactical 1600Mhz (2x8Gb)
EVGA Supernova G2 750W 80+ Gold
2x Gigabyte 970
Corsair H100i
Ok, so I put together my new build last night, but I'm not getting any video signal whatsoever. Neither on a 970 or the built-in GPU HDMI. It starts, all fans spin for fast, then slows down after a few secs, just as it's supposed to.
But, the red MemOK LED on the Asus board is glowing solid red. The manual says to press the MemOK-button to test different timings so that it can boot, and that it restarts between each setting. I tried it once, and as soon as I pressed it, it rebooted once, then the LED started blinking very slowly, then it kept blinking faster and faster, until it went back to solid red again. No reboot though.
I've tried each RAM stick by itself, though only once. My old PC was picked up by the new owner while I was putting this together, otherwise I'd try those sticks first. Though I'm gonna try my GF's RAM later.
Also, I've tried switching the Ez XMP-switch on the motherboard as suggested in the manual.
Please, any ideas? I mean it shouldn't be a compatability issue with the RAM, right? It's pretty standard 1600Mhz RAM. Can both sticks really be dead?
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 09:30 Post subject: |
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i got that memory red error once, memory was compatible and ok. system dint start with another memory to. so if you have another stick, try it.
in the end i just disansamble the whole system, including cpu cooler, replaced the thermal paste and ansambled again. (starting with minimal hardware, added components gradually).
worked and still works fine.
i presume it was a short somewhere.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 09:56 Post subject: |
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Thanks to both of you, I will disasemble the whole thing later and try redoing everything, just to be sure.
@JBeckman It doesn't have the LED-display you're thinking of, only LEDs for different components. It doesn't have the Flashback USB-feature either..
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 10:12 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 11:00 Post subject: |
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| _SiN_ wrote: | Thanks to both of you, I will disasemble the whole thing later and try redoing everything, just to be sure.
@JBeckman It doesn't have the LED-display you're thinking of, only LEDs for different components. It doesn't have the Flashback USB-feature either.. |
if you want a fast test just asamble the motherboar + psu in air, with an antistatic bag under (the one in which mb come), short the power pins with a paperclip. no need to conect to monitor, just see if the memory test pass. but 1' try to test it with another brand stick.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 11:20 Post subject: |
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Do you get any post beeps?
if the ram doesn't work completely you should gets some beeps, if the ram is simply faulty then you would most likely get a display and would end up crashing when it gets used during windows but should get you into bios.
just some simple things, make sure video card is plugged into the slot the whole way and that the power is plugged in correctly. I had a crappy case once that would stop the card from plugging in the whole way, fans would spin but no display.
next I would check the power to the mb. you should have a 4/8 pin power point on the board as well as the normal atx power cable. This would cause what you describe if the cable is not in correctly.
as suggested, build it outside the case to confirm everything is in correctly and no issues with the case hit anything. just plug in there basics, skip any HDD drives etc, just mb, cpu, 1 stick ram and video
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 11:43 Post subject: |
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maybe you bent the cpu socket pins ?
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 11:46 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | maybe you bent the cpu socket pins ? |
I find that to be impossible, when I install CPUs, I simply gently drop it in, I don't press it at all. I then grab it and wiggle it a little, that way you can feel it being correctly seated, since when it's mounted correctly, it has a tiny, tiny headroom of movement. Then I close the CPU fastener/whatever you call it.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 11:50 Post subject: |
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Id do the same as some above suggested. break it down to the bare essentials:
1 Stick of ram, CPU, HD
then hook up the system speaker and try to boot with onboard video. See if it boots, gives any error beeps (or no beeps at all)..etc.
if that doesn't boot I try without HD, it will at least goto post without it and fuss drive is missing. That way you can narrow it down for sure its the RAM, or CPU, or MB
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 13:36 Post subject: |
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Sounds like incompatitle memory or motherboard is DOA. Since the MemOK led is showing stuff, these things can be pain in the ass to figure out.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 15:49 Post subject: |
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had a similar issue, that i posted in the GPU discussion thread.
i've solved it by updating the motherboard bios to the latest version.
it was weird as fuck, because the mb display port didn't worked and the HDMI from the mb, also didn't worked till i removed the new gpu from the system.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 16:16 Post subject: |
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| _SiN_ wrote: | | Sin317 wrote: | | maybe you bent the cpu socket pins ? |
I owe you an apology dude, turns out I've managed to bend one, so bad that I cannot see how anyone could bend it back. I sure can't 
I have never experienced this before, and it's a fucking expensive mistake to make. There is no way this will fall under warranty, clearly my fault.
I'm going now and picking up another mobo, be right back.. |
i would try to fix it using a 0.5 solide grafite pen. but they usually just broke in the process.
sorry mate.
btw, is kinda hard to bend just one pin during normal installation of cpu, especially that bad, are you 100% sure that the mb was ok ? just send an email/ticket with some hiquality pics to asus, they usually answer fast. i had two tickets, and i got my answer in less than 48 h. just tell them that you have received that mb with that issue.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 20:28 Post subject: |
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Well I'll try to rma it, I mean I'm not 100% sure it WASN'T broken out of the box, but yeah..
Anyway, just got home with a brand new MSI Z97 Gaming 5. Let's try this again, with more care than ever before..
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 21:27 Post subject: |
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Well the new board is working fine, just did a "half" breadboard setup - mobo in case and everything on the side - is 32C idle a normal temp for a 4790k, with fans on the H100i barely spinning/making any noise, just looking in the UEFI? Using AS5 too.. Just want to make sure I didn't use too much paste, but I don't think so, at least.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2014 22:23 Post subject: |
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_SiN_ load up prime 95 or something that stresses up the CPU 100%, then see how hot the chip gets, i was lucky enough to get chip that has low volts and good contact with IHS and core (there has been problems in devils canyon CPUs with the glue they use on the IHS, there might be too much of that shit and it results in bad contact and high temps).
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 01:51 Post subject: |
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Damn, just assembled my new stuff 3 days ago, talk about a horror story 
Did you try frogster's suggestion BTW?
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 02:30 Post subject: |
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Failing that, I'd order another board, exact same, from another supplier, then swap out the boards, sending the duff one back, and get a full refund due to you 'changing your mind' on your purchase. Board will not be tested and go back into stock, ready to be sold to someone else, but that's not your problem now, as you have your refund 
Never fails that one, done it many times 
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 02:47 Post subject: |
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| scaramonga wrote: | Failing that, I'd order another board, exact same, from another supplier, then swap out the boards, sending the duff one back, and get a full refund due to you 'changing your mind' on your purchase. Board will not be tested and go back into stock, ready to be sold to someone else, but that's not your problem now, as you have your refund
Never fails that one, done it many times |
Nice theory... aside from different serials. Unless my store is the only one out there that lists them 
But I guess that a few do not, might be an option...
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 13:28 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | _SiN_ wrote: | | Sin317 wrote: | | maybe you bent the cpu socket pins ? |
I owe you an apology dude, turns out I've managed to bend one, so bad that I cannot see how anyone could bend it back. I sure can't
I have never experienced this before, and it's a fucking expensive mistake to make. There is no way this will fall under warranty, clearly my fault.
I'm going now and picking up another mobo, be right back.. |
haha no apology necessary  This happened to me earlier this year, when i wanted to simply reapply thermal paste. I've been installing and building my own pc's for over a decade and never ever had a problem ... but there is always the first time i guess.
Alltho bending just 1 pin seems very unlikely, unless it was already standing up or bent out of the box. |
Yeah, I don't know, I mean the CPU went into the slot fine as far as I can tell, so I'm still going to try and RMA it through Asus, so we'll see. Liking the new mobo though aswell.
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 20:22 Post subject: |
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Ok, next problem.. CPU temp.
Haven't done any OC'ing, but CPU-Z and Coretemp reports that it goes to 4.4 Ghz from time to time, and when running Prime95, it's at 4.2, with a vcore of 1.24v.. I'm guessing this is Intels TurboBoost, but I've disabled it in UEFI though? But still, my temps are at 80C when doing Small FFTs! That's with the H100i set to Performance Mode in Corsair Link, and the fans aren't maxing out..
And this is after remounting the H100i with washers as many people have reported has helped, since the mounting bracket/backplate for the H100i pump sits a bit loose on some motherboards, mine included. I also redid the AS5 and feel like I used a more proper amount this time, think I used too much the first time around.
So yeah, it's crazy hot! What gives?
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 23:23 Post subject: |
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| _SiN_ wrote: | Ok, next problem.. CPU temp.
Haven't done any OC'ing, but CPU-Z and Coretemp reports that it goes to 4.4 Ghz from time to time, and when running Prime95, it's at 4.2, with a vcore of 1.24v.. I'm guessing this is Intels TurboBoost, but I've disabled it in UEFI though? But still, my temps are at 80C when doing Small FFTs! That's with the H100i set to Performance Mode in Corsair Link, and the fans aren't maxing out..
And this is after remounting the H100i with washers as many people have reported has helped, since the mounting bracket/backplate for the H100i pump sits a bit loose on some motherboards, mine included. I also redid the AS5 and feel like I used a more proper amount this time, think I used too much the first time around.
So yeah, it's crazy hot! What gives? |
80c is nothing, its still fine @ 100% load, but seems you got not so nice chip if it has 1.24V with stock clocks. If you want better temps you need to delid the CPU, you might have chip that has shitload of the glue in between IHS pcb which results bad contact to core.
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| Posted: Fri, 5th Dec 2014 14:54 Post subject: |
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Ok, so I installed the stock fan just to test.
This review says they got 4.8Ghz! with the stock cooler, and it topped out at just under 84C
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7_4790K/6.html
But when I run AIDA64 with my stock cooler, it hits 100C, but the CPU fan is barely audible.. I know it works because when booting the PC, it does the standard 100% CPU fan test for a few secs, then down to idle speed. But when bencing, it's almost quiet..
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