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Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:31 Post subject: The Expendables 4 (2023) |
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And here we go again
Quote: | Whilst the financiers are blaming pirates and a leaked screener for the failure of the third "The Expendables" film, the franchise's creator Sylvester Stallone seems a bit more clued in.
Attempts were made with the third film to broaden the appeal of the franchise, namely by including a bunch of younger cast members and changing over to a PG-13 rating from an R. Stallone now believes that the ratings change was a big mistake. He tells Crave Online:
"Absolutely unequivocally yes. I believe it was a horrible miscalculation on everyone's part in trying to reach a wider audience, but in doing such, diminish the violence that the audience expects. I'm quite certain it won't happen again."
Despite the third film earning $100 million less than the second, another instalment in the series is still planned. In fact, this one may be more 'out there' than expected:
"I have actually entertained the idea of putting the group into such an unnatural environment that it, in an of itself, creates extra suspense and tension: the 'fish out of water' scenario. That environment might not be time travel, but nearly just as jarring."
Stallone was also asked about the possibility of one of the key Expendables team dying considering that the key members from the first are pretty much still kicking by the third film's end:
"This is a big conflict for me because in an R-rated film it is difficult to believe that none of the heroes die. I personally just believe that the characters become identifiable and their demise could put a dark cloud over an audience exiting the theatre after seeing the film. But that may change in Expendables 4." |
Sci-Fi Action?
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Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:33 Post subject: |
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Rated "G" this time 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2014 03:20 Post subject: |
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people went for GORE AND BLOOD ... saw pewpewpewpew but no blood or gore ... BD directors cut promised with CGI BLOOD AND GORE.... BD IS OUT ... its 2 min longer and they only curse and say bitch and fuck
they lost me ...
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chiv
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Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2014 03:29 Post subject: |
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sorry expendadurrs producers... you had your chance and you blew it. all the good will that ex1 (and to some degree 2) built up, you threw away with 3. on behalf of myself and anyone else who wants in on this position, go fuck yourselves.
unless you decide to do expendables in space... that might... MIGHT get me to come back cautiously and give it a look 
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Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2014 13:04 Post subject: |
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Expendables in space could be nice (basically like Aliens), but it will probably expendables with zombies or in post-nuclear apocalypse setting.
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Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2014 13:44 Post subject: |
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Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2014 14:38 Post subject: |
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Not 3. 3 was pg all the way.
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Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2014 17:24 Post subject: |
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Im feeling armageddon.
I like men now
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Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2014 17:39 Post subject: |
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No I hope they do a proper gi joe 2. Evil baddie has weapon in space. Expendables go into space... \o/
Sin317 wrote: | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2014 19:34 Post subject: |
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One thing is for sure, I will watch it (and probably even enjoy it, despite the obvious flaws) as the tradition dictates.
Sci-fi and a hostile environment, I wonder if they'll cast the Predator too this time around xD
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Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2014 03:33 Post subject: |
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1, 2 and 3 were shit, so...
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Quote: | Sylvester Stallone has withdrawn from taking part in the fourth installment of “The Expendables” franchise – despite it being the biggest upfront payday in his career with a salary over $20 million.
Deadline broke news of the departure, saying it came down to Stallone and Nu Image/Millennium chief Avi Lerner not finding common ground over various aspects of the film from director to script to visual effects.
Stallone and Lerner have disagreed in the past with the pair often eventually working out, but that doesn’t seem to be the case this time. Lerner acknowledged the differences to the outlet but isn’t willing to give up yet:
Quote: | “We’ve got disagreements with Sly, but we’ve had them for over a year and a half. Right now, each one has opinion. We agreed on 95% of things, but there are certain things in production we don’t agree on. I don’t think it’s over, but what write whatever you want. In my opinion, it’s not dead.” |
Right now it’s not clear how Stallone’s exit impacts the film. Stallone co-wrote all the films and helmed the first one. |
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Posted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 03:01 Post subject: |
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its interesting... usually id say ONE person wouldnt really matter, given its always been an ensemble film.
but as i think about it... the expendables really is a STALLONE film. his grumbly slurry gruff leadership and hero-character are pretty integral. without him, i just know id always be wondering 'yeah but wheres barney'.. it'd feel less like the expendables and more like the pretendables™.. even if it did have all the others back in it.
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Posted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 04:02 Post subject: |
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He really cared about it to say no to $20+ million, good for him. Those Millennium folks probably wanted to add even more worthless 'nextgen' actors, ufc stars and cinerpmatic effects for kids, completely bastardizing the franchise which was conceived as a throwback to the action flicks of the 80s. I'm with Sly on this one. 
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Posted: Thu, 6th Apr 2017 00:31 Post subject: |
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Arnie is out.. maybe.
http://ew.com/movies/2017/04/05/arnold-schwarzenegger-expendables-4-sylvester-stallone/
Quote: | “There is no Expendables without Sly,” says the Terminator star. “I would never do the movie without him, no.” |
Later..
Quote: | “You know, I think the first and second one were terrific,” he said. “But, the third one, I thought my part was not written well. It was also not playing well in the movie, as far as I was concerned. Maybe other people believed differently. But I didn’t believe that I had any value in the movie. I love the franchise, by the way. I think it’s a spectacular franchise, The Expendables. I think that Sly has good ideas, what he wants to do with it, and I think if they write a really good script [in] which my part is very well-developed, I would do it. If not, then I won’t do it.” |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Posted: Thu, 6th Apr 2017 01:07 Post subject: |
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well he probably thought it was an interesting conceptual way to move the franchise forward... sadly you just cant predict what a fucking mess its going to be turned in to by a shitty director and incompetent producers and studio pressure.
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Posted: Thu, 6th Apr 2017 01:44 Post subject: |
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Interinactive wrote: | consolitis wrote: | I thought my part was not written well. It was also not playing well in the movie, as far as I was concerned. |
consolitis wrote: | I think if they write a really good script [in] which my part is very well-developed, I would do it. If not, then I won’t do it.” |
Some interesting quotes, considering the discussion in the Terminator thread. What'd the think the writing was like in Genisys, written well? |
"You are back in your iconic role, and we don't have to hide your age or anything, and the script is written by your pal's pal, and $$$".
Of course the script itself wasn't good, but it could have led to a film with some cool moments if it was handled better. For example, the opening was supposed to be the ultimate fanservice what with it being set in the future war, being a sort-of-flashback to T1/T2, and bringing to life unproduced scenes and concepts from T2. People have been asking for more future war stuff since T2's opening, and here we finally got it, only it was completely unmemorable.
As chiv said in theory perhaps he liked the concept. "Oh, T1/T2 flashbacks! Oh, my skin ages, that makes sense, they can explain why I aged. Oh, I will fight my T1 self? Haha, I'd like to see that!"
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Posted: Thu, 6th Apr 2017 14:46 Post subject: |
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garus wrote: | Weren't they all "R-rated" right up until the release?  |
Retard ??
Sin317 wrote: | while you can't "turn gay", you can cut off your balls. believe me, you'll never think of women again. |
zmed wrote: | Or just a defense mechanism. If you fart, you'll most definitely smell it so your brain tells you it ain't bad as strangerfarts. |
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Posted: Thu, 6th Apr 2017 14:52 Post subject: |
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*slow clap*
only took you 2 and a half years to come up with that one 
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Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2018 18:29 Post subject: |
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Maybe the plot will be that he's using a rollator to get to the space ship, and massive explosions will ensure while he tries to get to it. Maybe even a wheel will fall off and he has to do some actual walking.
PC: Yes. Console: No.
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Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2018 18:47 Post subject: |
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Now that I'd watch without hesitation.
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