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matta666




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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 18:18    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
The war table is also directly taken from ME.

matta666 wrote:
I quite like it so far, combat is pretty dumb but it's the same as elder scrolls essentially. The game looks lush tbh.

How is it like elder scrolls?


Run forward till you touch the enemy and press an attack button, run back a few steps then forward again and attack. Combat is exactly the same Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 18:24    Post subject:
Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 18:33    Post subject:
Kein wrote:
A PC RPG that you pretty much have to play with a gamepad.

I love 2014. Can't wait what 2015 has in store for pc gaming!

what's wrong with using gamepad on PC? that's the beauty of PC gaming, you can use any input device you like. it's your problem you are too stubborn to try anything but mouse+kb.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 18:34    Post subject:
Yeah I use 360 pad with this. Great.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 18:37    Post subject:
People still refusing to use a gamepad on the system with the broadest and most diverse input choices.

I love backwards thinking in 2014. Can't wait what 2015 has in store for PC gaming. Perhaps they'll abolish the mouse because early PC games only had keyboard input.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 18:41    Post subject:
hehe, when I first played wolfenstein, doom and quake, I didn't know about mouse look. Amazing Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 18:42    Post subject:
My first "PC" game was Ford Driving Simulator and that was on a keyboard, then - like you rightly said - up to the bloody QUAKE age we had keyboard input. I was flying through Doom levels shattering par times with just the arrow keys Very Happy

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At least, I think it was Ford. Could have been another manufacturer Neutral


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banish




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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 18:44    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
Kein wrote:
A PC RPG that you pretty much have to play with a gamepad.

I love 2014. Can't wait what 2015 has in store for pc gaming!

what's wrong with using gamepad on PC? that's the beauty of PC gaming, you can use any input device you like. it's your problem you are too stubborn to try anything but mouse+kb.


thats like buying a ps4 and imputing a keyboard and mouse...what the hell for?the problem is that some of you are playing pc games (and RPGs dammit) with a controler and developers dont feel the need to address Kb and mouse anymore.And then you wonder why we have stupid console UI on the Pc version
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 18:45    Post subject:
banish wrote:
thats like buying a ps4 and imputing a keyboard and mouse...what the hell for?the problem is that some of you are playing pc games (and RPGs dammit) with a controler and developers dont feel the need to address Kb and mouse anymore.And then you wonder why we have stupid console UI on the Pc version


Adding a keyboard and mouse would be glorious for shooters on console, what they hell are you talking about? It was awesome to play UT99/HL/Q3 on the Dreamcast using a k/m, just like on the PS2 as well. Just because one platform has a leaning towards one control method, doesn't mean all others are pointless Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 18:50    Post subject:
matta666 wrote:
Mister_s wrote:
The war table is also directly taken from ME.

matta666 wrote:
I quite like it so far, combat is pretty dumb but it's the same as elder scrolls essentially. The game looks lush tbh.

How is it like elder scrolls?


Run forward till you touch the enemy and press an attack button, run back a few steps then forward again and attack. Combat is exactly the same Smile

Try doing that with a Rage demon on Nightmare.

I think the anger about K&M is because it's Bioware. A dev studio which is this old should know something isn't right. Either no one played this with K&M (highly unlikely), or someone high up chose not to listen to feedback.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 18:57    Post subject:
This is less about them not paying attention to k&m and more about the simple undeniable fact; PC isn't primary for them anymore. It hasn't been since... fuck, since 2004? SW KoTOR marked the end of the classic BioWare and the evolution of console BioWare. Remember, KoTOR was an Xbox exclusive for a few months and was obviously designed with that in mind. Same with Mass Effect, all designed primarily with 360 in mind. Dragon Age 2 abolished the "tactical" pause gameplay and instead made it a button masher :\ To be honest, I'm astounded BioWare even included a tactical mode in DAI.

I'm not defending them, not even close, just remarking on the controller-hatred that is just so... odd. One of the very best things about the PC is your choice of input, not being locked into any one specific path.


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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:01    Post subject:
whats up with the scene, ware4 r teh 2rentz? Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:02    Post subject:
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whats up with the scene, ware4 r teh 2rentz? Shocked

Requesting is prohibited around these lands. Ban this fucker!
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:02    Post subject:
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whats up with the scene, ware4 r teh 2rentz? Shocked


Didn't you hear, Lutzipoo? Denuvo is uncrackable so the installation is rolling back we are all fucking now.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:03    Post subject:
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whats up with the scene, ware4 r teh 2rentz? Shocked

What scene? Game uses Denuvo, scene can go on vacation.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:03    Post subject:
Wouldn't even pirate this piece of garbage Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:04    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Denuvo is uncrackable so the installation is rolling back...

...while deleting your Windows in the process. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:04    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
This is less about them not paying attention to k&m and more about the simple undeniable fact; PC isn't primary for them anymore. It hasn't been since... fuck, since 2004? SW KoTOR marked the end of the classic BioWare and the evolution of console BioWare. Remember, KoTOR was an Xbox exclusive for a few months and was obviously designed with that in mind. Same with Mass Effect, all designed primarily with 360 in mind. Dragon Age 2 abolished the "tactical" pause gameplay and instead made it a button masher :\ To be honest, I'm astounded BioWare even included a tactical mode in DAI.

You won't understand it untill you've tried it Sabin, it's not only being console centric. Even tactical view works great with a gamepad (though zoom is still limited). I need to use tactical view in nightmare, it's very hard otherwise. It's like the PC control scheme was outsourced to some MMO players, makes no sense. All they had to do was directly copy the previous games, nothing more. I think some high up designer liked this scheme for some reason, so it was done. I doubt someone who has been making RPGs on PC for a long time came up with this scheme.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:04    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
banish wrote:
thats like buying a ps4 and imputing a keyboard and mouse...what the hell for?the problem is that some of you are playing pc games (and RPGs dammit) with a controler and developers dont feel the need to address Kb and mouse anymore.And then you wonder why we have stupid console UI on the Pc version


Adding a keyboard and mouse would be glorious for shooters on console, what they hell are you talking about? It was awesome to play UT99/HL/Q3 on the Dreamcast using a k/m, just like on the PS2 as well. Just because one platform has a leaning towards one control method, doesn't mean all others are pointless Rolling Eyes


True just like i understand playing fifa on a pc with a controler is better,my point was towards rpg's on the pc and that i strongly believe a rpg is better on a Kb and mouse Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:09    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
Wouldn't even pirate this piece of garbage Laughing
I will Twisted Evil


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:10    Post subject:
@banish

I guess it depends on the RPG Wink Dragon Age Origins? Magnificent with k/m, I wouldn't think of playing with a controller. Dragon Age 2? Pretty terrible on the k/m Very Happy

@Mister_s

True, I've not played it yet but going by feedback; it sounds like another DA2 instance. They obviously didn't give a flying fuck about k/m so the only real way to play is with a controller.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:14    Post subject:
EA is very big on hiring kids straight out of school. In an industry that has an insane turnover rate.


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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:20    Post subject:
Just because I can play a game with a pad on the PC, doesn't mean I should be forced to. This game practically forces you to play pad, if you want to use the tactical view - which you must on nightmare.

Luckily, I do have a pad, but what if I wouldn't have? they presented the tactical cam as a return to roots, yet not one single review mentioned, not one video of theirs mentioned how it works in practice. If I didn't have a pad, I would now have to go out and BUY another piece of hardware to enjoy a game, which was falsely advertised.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:22    Post subject:
you know what guyz, fuck this i am gonna finish this shiz with the fucking rockband controller


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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:22    Post subject:
I don't mind using a gamepad to play games on the PC. I played Shadow of Mordor, Tomb Raider and many other newer games with one. If it makes the experience more enjoyable then I'm all for it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:23    Post subject:
Again, I'm *not* defending them. Not. At all. If the k/m method is so terrible then fuck them.. seriously. I was just commenting on the ridiculous anti-controller sentiment as if the mere presence of a controller near a PC is tantamount to selling beefburgers in the Taj Mahal.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:23    Post subject:
you know what guyz, fuck this i am gonna finish this shiz with the fucking rockband controller


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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:28    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Epsilon wrote:
Wouldn't even pirate this piece of garbage Laughing
I will Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:29    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
you know what guyz, fuck this i am gonna finish this shiz with the fucking rockband controller


If people are playing Dark Souls 2 with a steering wheel, I'm sure you'll do fine Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2014 19:31    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
tonizito wrote:
Epsilon wrote:
Wouldn't even pirate this piece of garbage Laughing
I will Twisted Evil

Evil or Very Mad

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